The General Barca

[Triune Kingdom]

What sources are you using to write this? Aside from low quality history documentaries? Did you ever read a book on the subject?

In one of your previous posts you "handwaved" the logistical concerns, which is not something you see done in ASB TLs, let alone Post-1900s. Okay, cool.
Do you know what kind of logistical constrains, a German General with command on the Eastern Front during the period of Battle of Stalingrad would operate under? I have no clue, so if you could explain, just for us lesser minds who struggle with the concept and are seeking enlightment from a guy so knowledgable about those things that you can literally wave them away.

BTW, what after Stalingard? Will Barca march on Isengard? Or are we seeing him team up with Admiral Ackbar?

 

[nbcman]

Battle of Stalingard started exactly the same time as OTL. In sept of 1941. And digging in was exactly the same thing that Zhukov did in Leningrad. There was no magic equipment, there are using normal artillery that a army that size carries.

This is the OTL front line at the start of September 1941. Note that Stalingrad is 600-800 km east of the front line. Also note that General Hoepner (EDIT: aka The General Barca) was commanding 4th Pz Group that was transitioning from AG North to AG Center during September 1941 and was well over 1000 km away from Stalingrad. So is the scenario a 1941 Stalingrad or a 1942 Stalingrad? BTW - artillery is a very expensive way to 'dig' entrenchments. The Germans would be using this first:

 

[godofcoc]

This is the OTL front line at the start of September 1941. Note that Stalingrad is 600-800 km east of the front line. Also note that General Hoepner (EDIT: aka The General Barca) was commanding 4th Pz Group that was transitioning from AG North to AG Center during September 1941 and was well over 1000 km away from Stalingrad. So is the scenario a 1941 Stalingrad or a 1942 Stalingrad? BTW - artillery is a very expensive way to 'dig' entrenchments. The Germans would be using this first: View attachment 892746

Artillery was used to blow up the semi frozen river to prevent a soviet crossing.

 

[Garrison]

Stalingard was absolutely essential to soviet war effort. While I agree that pulling out after the Germans were being encircled was the right move, retreating before that was a bad decision without the power of hindsight, the greatest german mistake was under estimating the soviet reserve and that much is universally agreed upon by everyone.

No it really wasn't. It was irrelevant to the German strategic goal of taking the oilfields and even after Stalingrad was largely occupied the Soviets were able to turn out the tanks and other equipment needed to mount their counteroffensive. With every post you just confirm how little real research you've done. Again I will ask what sources you are using?

 

[nbcman]

Artillery was used to blow up the semi frozen river to prevent a soviet crossing.

OK. That is not related to digging in/entrenchment as the Landsers are not entrenching on a water feature, frozen or not.

Can you answer the question on what year your TL is based on - is it starting from semi-OTL conditions in September 1942 (OTL 23 August 1942 – 2 February 1943) or is is starting from an ATL condition where the Germans advanced hundreds of kilometers further east that OTL in 1941? I have added a link to the Wiki Battle of Stalingrad article for your reference.

Battle of Stalingrad - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[godofcoc]

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This is the OTL front line at the start of September 1941. Note that Stalingrad is 600-800 km east of the front line. Also note that General Hoepner (EDIT: aka The General Barca) was commanding 4th Pz Group that was transitioning from AG North to AG Center during September 1941 and was well over 1000 km away from Stalingrad. So is the scenario a 1941 Stalingrad or a 1942 Stalingrad? BTW - artillery is a very expensive way to 'dig' entrenchments. The Germans would be using this first: View attachment 892746

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