What if the Soviets won the battle of Warsaw? (1920)

CaliGuy

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Stenz said:
Whilst being War-weary was certainly a thing, we are talking Communist Russia attacking, conquering and moving through Poland. The avowed goal of the Soviets was to conquer Poland to allow access to Germany and turn them Red as well. This is a threat to the stability of Europe. This isn't Lloyd George attempting to keep WWI going by supporting Greek expansionism, nor is it localised border wars in the aftermath of Versailles.

My gut would be that Freikorps would be allowed to operate in large numbers in the East of Germany, maybe geographically limited, with even expansion of the Heer allowed. Once the Red menace is suppressed, disarmament would recommence and the Freikorps would be disbanded. After all, the WAllies used Freikorps in the Baltic (at least initially) against Communists instead of their own troops.
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Do the Entente also allow Germany to restore its 1914 border in the east in this TL? After all, the Freikorps would likely aim to do this if Poland goes Communist.
 

fasquardon

CaliGuy said:
Also, I wonder if Germany will try playing off the Bolsheviks and the Entente against each other in this TL in order to extract maximum concessions for itself from each of these; indeed, any thoughts on this?
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I could see it backfiring at first - making the Entente even more hostile to Germany.

I wonder what might happen if the Socialists occupy Western Poland? It could be quite the putdown to the German right - stick with us, we'll rebuild the Germany the militarists destroyed, just like we did in Poland.

A more social democratic Germany allied with a Communist Russia...

Alternatively, the Friekorps could get the credit, and the German right is strengthened. Possibly leading to a German military dictatorship in the 1920s even?

Either way, as time goes on and the full horror of Communist Russia becomes clear, if Germany has an acceptable government in charge, I think it could have more success playing the Russians off against the West.

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