The Light of The North (Norse TL)
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If you mean the Long Nosed God chiefdom, that's a singular tribe that has been getting a very minimal trickle of Old World domesticates. The OWD aren't commonplace and it will be a while before they have any more of them, I just needed an incentive for it to begin an expansion. The proto-Haudenosaunee and proto-Wabanahkik have about 50 horses total between them, Vinland having the most. I've mostly been avoiding giving numbers due to concerns of too high or too low being ASB.
Not just that tribe the spread of new world crops and information seems unrelistic, i fail to see how its possible for the three sisters to be so widely known that it changes the religion the khazars convert to
The Norse had extensive trading networks throughout Eastern Europe by this point OTL, The Khazars haven't converted to anything yet (and won't for a while). The introduction of the Three Sisters coincided with the discovery/invention of compasses, which has allowed for longer, more frequent journeys between the two continents.
Really enjoying this timeline so far; and I loved the last post relating to the Norse/Native religion forming. As someone who loves world religions and myths, that right right down my alley 
That's from the Mi'kmaq creation story. http://www.muiniskw.org/pgCulture3a.htm
Just realised that update is missing a paragraph. It's meant to be a story told by a Gyða.
The Journeys of Ingjolfr the Red - The Arl
The Arl
7th Góa 855
Nonosbawsut hated travelling this far north. Greenland always seemed colder than his last visit but it was the only place he could trade with the Norsemen for books from some place far to the east called Ar-land. The information within the books were secondary to their purpose, their coverings being held as valuable in the land of their origin and so the Norse held them ransom to various Nostaries. He traded for them with Timber, something Greenland lacked. As many of his people were exiled to this northern land for raiding against the Vesþing, many had discovered something that had dulled their anger and hatred towards the culture: the Norse weren't united. Many would simply follow those with the will to keep them in line as Vinland and Iceland considered the others internal problems as just that - the other's problem. Once they arrived on Greenland, each commonwealth was content to consider the matter settled[1]. As a result, many of the Norse on Greenland were sympathetic of Beothuk plans to retake the West of Vinland (and gain some warmer land for themselves) and a sharing and merging of cultures had began with mouarzeenite[2] bedesoni[3] and tools becoming more common for those of his people who traded with Greenland.
For many, this merging of cultures was worrying. As they had always been few in number, there was an unspoken fear that they would be subsumed by the Norse. That the Norse were also susceptible to the odd new diseases diminished the fear somewhat, It was after all difficult to outnumber someone if you yourself kept dying. The Greenland Beothuk had began drawing up plans to retake the lands earlier in the year but word had somehow gotten out. They had intended to hug the coasts of Helluland and Markland, and from there harass the Western Coast as 'sympathetic' Beothuk pushed from the East. He had leaked the plans himself for a rather simple reason: He didn't want the Norse gone. As long as they were there, their presence could be used a uniting rallying cry and allow him to establish a power base that would hopefully last beyond his life. He recognised the danger in this strategy however, go too long without the Norse being hostile - or expelled, then the people that followed him would abandon or remove him. And so he needed a benefit to his leadership outside of war if his powerbase was to last, to this trade with Greenland was essential. If he could convince his people that it was only the Norse on Vinland who constituted a threat and not the Norse as a whole, then he could have continuity of both hostile and friendly relations with the Norse.
The collection of books that he had gathered had earned him the nickname of 'Arl', as to many it seemed he was enamored with the far off land. In truth, he had little interest in either the land or the books but encouraged the use of the nickname as the Norse on Greenland thought it to be his title and thinking it equivalent to their 'Jarl' that he was afforded certain curtesies that he was almost certain he would not have recieved otherwise.
Receiving a warm welcome from the 'settler[4]'s as he exchanged the timber for books, he explored the village before finding the local priest that invited him to join a ceremony that would begin shortly. Nonosbawsut sat down and listened to the Norsemen's tale of a certain god. The Wisest and Fairest of all the Aesir, such that none may gainsay his judgements, who resided in a place called Breiadblik.
Well, he could use that.
[1] Neither Vinland or Iceland much care who is on Greenland, just that someone is. Yes, this will come back to bite them.
[2 & 3] Beothuk for Iron and Sword respectively
[4]Some of these are actual settlers that have chosen Greenland for various reasons.
7th Góa 855
Nonosbawsut hated travelling this far north. Greenland always seemed colder than his last visit but it was the only place he could trade with the Norsemen for books from some place far to the east called Ar-land. The information within the books were secondary to their purpose, their coverings being held as valuable in the land of their origin and so the Norse held them ransom to various Nostaries. He traded for them with Timber, something Greenland lacked. As many of his people were exiled to this northern land for raiding against the Vesþing, many had discovered something that had dulled their anger and hatred towards the culture: the Norse weren't united. Many would simply follow those with the will to keep them in line as Vinland and Iceland considered the others internal problems as just that - the other's problem. Once they arrived on Greenland, each commonwealth was content to consider the matter settled[1]. As a result, many of the Norse on Greenland were sympathetic of Beothuk plans to retake the West of Vinland (and gain some warmer land for themselves) and a sharing and merging of cultures had began with mouarzeenite[2] bedesoni[3] and tools becoming more common for those of his people who traded with Greenland.
For many, this merging of cultures was worrying. As they had always been few in number, there was an unspoken fear that they would be subsumed by the Norse. That the Norse were also susceptible to the odd new diseases diminished the fear somewhat, It was after all difficult to outnumber someone if you yourself kept dying. The Greenland Beothuk had began drawing up plans to retake the lands earlier in the year but word had somehow gotten out. They had intended to hug the coasts of Helluland and Markland, and from there harass the Western Coast as 'sympathetic' Beothuk pushed from the East. He had leaked the plans himself for a rather simple reason: He didn't want the Norse gone. As long as they were there, their presence could be used a uniting rallying cry and allow him to establish a power base that would hopefully last beyond his life. He recognised the danger in this strategy however, go too long without the Norse being hostile - or expelled, then the people that followed him would abandon or remove him. And so he needed a benefit to his leadership outside of war if his powerbase was to last, to this trade with Greenland was essential. If he could convince his people that it was only the Norse on Vinland who constituted a threat and not the Norse as a whole, then he could have continuity of both hostile and friendly relations with the Norse.
The collection of books that he had gathered had earned him the nickname of 'Arl', as to many it seemed he was enamored with the far off land. In truth, he had little interest in either the land or the books but encouraged the use of the nickname as the Norse on Greenland thought it to be his title and thinking it equivalent to their 'Jarl' that he was afforded certain curtesies that he was almost certain he would not have recieved otherwise.
Receiving a warm welcome from the 'settler[4]'s as he exchanged the timber for books, he explored the village before finding the local priest that invited him to join a ceremony that would begin shortly. Nonosbawsut sat down and listened to the Norsemen's tale of a certain god. The Wisest and Fairest of all the Aesir, such that none may gainsay his judgements, who resided in a place called Breiadblik.
Well, he could use that.
[1] Neither Vinland or Iceland much care who is on Greenland, just that someone is. Yes, this will come back to bite them.
[2 & 3] Beothuk for Iron and Sword respectively
[4]Some of these are actual settlers that have chosen Greenland for various reasons.
Spread of Disease 855
Unknown to peoples of Utaneyjar prior to the Norse arrival were the diseases of Cowpox and Smallpox. Smallpox had arrived first but had been unable spread beyond the Mi'kmaq lands until they began to build settlements in the Norse style, from their perspective the disease was a side-effect of staying in one place too long. As more of their people became sedantary, it gained more room to spread. By 855, Thokeyjar and Mi'kmaq'i were in the midst of a Virgin Soil epidemic suffering a rapid decrease in people. Smallpox was halted howerever at Chignecto, the Björnland-Laurentian trade had inadvertandly introduced Cowpox some years prior. Starting from a more built-up area and a higher population, Cowpox spread rapidly throughout the interior and had reached Lenape lands. Much less devastating than Smallpox, Cowpox does have a 'benefit' that would not be confirmed until much later - Those who suffer Cowpox do not get Smallpox.
A rapid increase in trade of Cattle throughout the area spread Cowpox faster than Smallpox could infect and into lands yet unknown to the Norse. The Mississippian Cultures saw there numbers reduced by around 20% before the conquest of Svássland, The Great Lakes numbers dropped by around 25% as the disease saw a rapid increase in Mourning Wars.
As the diseases spread people turned to numerous faiths to try and understand or cure it. The Mi'kmaq-Norse Syncretism although at this time still lacking glass, blamed it on impure spirits in the water and took to boiling water before any use. The Great Law, while not a faith per se, saw the spread of disease as a punishment for diverting people from the will of the creator. The Natural Order, the later formed faith of Svássland, followed the Syncretic belief of impure water.
Disease Map:
Rather small update but needed to upload something before I lost interest in this, will continue with longer updates soonish
A rapid increase in trade of Cattle throughout the area spread Cowpox faster than Smallpox could infect and into lands yet unknown to the Norse. The Mississippian Cultures saw there numbers reduced by around 20% before the conquest of Svássland, The Great Lakes numbers dropped by around 25% as the disease saw a rapid increase in Mourning Wars.
As the diseases spread people turned to numerous faiths to try and understand or cure it. The Mi'kmaq-Norse Syncretism although at this time still lacking glass, blamed it on impure spirits in the water and took to boiling water before any use. The Great Law, while not a faith per se, saw the spread of disease as a punishment for diverting people from the will of the creator. The Natural Order, the later formed faith of Svássland, followed the Syncretic belief of impure water.
Disease Map:
Rather small update but needed to upload something before I lost interest in this, will continue with longer updates soonish
The Journeys of Ingjolfr the Red - The Jarl of Björnland
24th Góa 855
þordisrike, Björnland
Stuck.
þordis sighed as the travelers finished their tale. There was no ocean south of the Freyjalag, merely a lake. A truly enormous one if the travelers' accounts were accurate but a lake nonetheless. Valdemar's crowning act of idiocy has trapped us. With the Knowledge of Ironworking spreading south and the growing chaos on Vinland that somehow now included Skraelings preaching of worshipping Baldr at the expense of all else including their own Moon and Sun duality[1], Björnland would soon become a less and less attractive prospect for potential settlers. Too few people and the Jarldom would collapse and fade into memory. Cattle and Pigs could be bred quickly enough that famine is unlikely but we need much more horses
Dismissing the travelers and their new thralls, she resisted the urge to pinch her nose. We need something to attract settlers that nowhere else offers. Rising from her would-be throne she left the Longhouse and made her way further into town heading towards the market stalls. Lack of Horses isn't a huge problem, at worst someone can be 30 rôst[2] from water and can sail but that would worsen the problem. Knarrs are no match for Longships and þora[3] would be at the mercy of Vinland and Thokeyjar and we can't rely on Vikings to keep visiting - they tend not to settle here.
Adopting some of the Freyjalag practices could work short term but that could quickly draw us into conflict with the Penobscot and then that loose alliance on the Atlantic lands of Utaneyjar. Adopting some Innu practices would be defeat, they flee this place in winter
The market stalls were well stocked with the now normal daily products that had grown to include wild rice, tobacco or alcohol. Some of the stalls were selling those rather unnerving faceless dolls, near the centre however she saw a crowd begin to gather. Curious, she paused near the edge to get a better view of what was going on, too close and she would simply be lost in the crowd and see nothing.
"Here to quell the coming chaos, my Jarl?" A sweet voice asked from behind her.
"Ylva" She smiled as turned around to face the blonde woman that half the Jarldom suspected she was more than fond of. "What chaos is this?"
"Ingjolfr has been selling frozen produce for a few days now. He said yesterday that he would be selling Skÿr today and this is the result" Gesturing at the crowd.
"Frozen? Skÿr? Elska, it's Góa. The ice is melting"
"Yes, he said something like that with his first sales and don't call me that in public." A scowl crossed her features emphasising her pox scar. "People will start to talk."
"People already talk" þordis replied quietly keep them wealthy enough and that's all they'll do, thankfully. This far into my reign, the Karls are unlikely to go looking for Erik . The people born here had only second-hand knowledge of the Kvidr that had saw her made Jarl, and with the Freyjalag so close it had been easy for rumours to spread that cast doubt on her Uncle's sanity and a few on the unsuitability of men as Jarls. A Jarl is bound to one location but men are explorers, traders, blah blah. She had been careful not to be too all-encompassing. Give the subject of a rumour too wide a range and it would just fizzle and die out. Or so she held
"Yes and while you may have prote- no, no. We can talk about this later, for now lets see if whatever fjölkyngi[4] he employed still holds today."
Turning back towards the stall, she customers walking away with what she assumed was indeed Skÿr. It was rather hard to tell at such a distance. She watched for a while as the crowd waxed and waned. Eventually the merchant declared that he had sold out today but would have more tomorrow.
Rationing his supplies perhaps? But how is he keeping them frozen? This bears investigation. Can he keep food frozen through summer?
Parting with Ylva for the time being she headed back towards the Longhouse. If whatever he was doing could keep food frozen year round, they would be much less reliant on imports from Vinland or Thokeyjar. More food meant more people and more people meant more people able to grow more food. That still leaves the problem of Horses however, probably worsens it
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[1] Beothuk religion is difficult to reconstruct but a Sun/Moon theme seems to be prominent
[2] Norse measure of distance roughly equivalent to 1 mile
[3] þordis' daughter and presumptive heir
[4] Norse for Magic, Ingjolfr isn't using magic but people don't know that.
þordisrike, Björnland
Stuck.
þordis sighed as the travelers finished their tale. There was no ocean south of the Freyjalag, merely a lake. A truly enormous one if the travelers' accounts were accurate but a lake nonetheless. Valdemar's crowning act of idiocy has trapped us. With the Knowledge of Ironworking spreading south and the growing chaos on Vinland that somehow now included Skraelings preaching of worshipping Baldr at the expense of all else including their own Moon and Sun duality[1], Björnland would soon become a less and less attractive prospect for potential settlers. Too few people and the Jarldom would collapse and fade into memory. Cattle and Pigs could be bred quickly enough that famine is unlikely but we need much more horses
Dismissing the travelers and their new thralls, she resisted the urge to pinch her nose. We need something to attract settlers that nowhere else offers. Rising from her would-be throne she left the Longhouse and made her way further into town heading towards the market stalls. Lack of Horses isn't a huge problem, at worst someone can be 30 rôst[2] from water and can sail but that would worsen the problem. Knarrs are no match for Longships and þora[3] would be at the mercy of Vinland and Thokeyjar and we can't rely on Vikings to keep visiting - they tend not to settle here.
Adopting some of the Freyjalag practices could work short term but that could quickly draw us into conflict with the Penobscot and then that loose alliance on the Atlantic lands of Utaneyjar. Adopting some Innu practices would be defeat, they flee this place in winter
The market stalls were well stocked with the now normal daily products that had grown to include wild rice, tobacco or alcohol. Some of the stalls were selling those rather unnerving faceless dolls, near the centre however she saw a crowd begin to gather. Curious, she paused near the edge to get a better view of what was going on, too close and she would simply be lost in the crowd and see nothing.
"Here to quell the coming chaos, my Jarl?" A sweet voice asked from behind her.
"Ylva" She smiled as turned around to face the blonde woman that half the Jarldom suspected she was more than fond of. "What chaos is this?"
"Ingjolfr has been selling frozen produce for a few days now. He said yesterday that he would be selling Skÿr today and this is the result" Gesturing at the crowd.
"Frozen? Skÿr? Elska, it's Góa. The ice is melting"
"Yes, he said something like that with his first sales and don't call me that in public." A scowl crossed her features emphasising her pox scar. "People will start to talk."
"People already talk" þordis replied quietly keep them wealthy enough and that's all they'll do, thankfully. This far into my reign, the Karls are unlikely to go looking for Erik . The people born here had only second-hand knowledge of the Kvidr that had saw her made Jarl, and with the Freyjalag so close it had been easy for rumours to spread that cast doubt on her Uncle's sanity and a few on the unsuitability of men as Jarls. A Jarl is bound to one location but men are explorers, traders, blah blah. She had been careful not to be too all-encompassing. Give the subject of a rumour too wide a range and it would just fizzle and die out. Or so she held
"Yes and while you may have prote- no, no. We can talk about this later, for now lets see if whatever fjölkyngi[4] he employed still holds today."
Turning back towards the stall, she customers walking away with what she assumed was indeed Skÿr. It was rather hard to tell at such a distance. She watched for a while as the crowd waxed and waned. Eventually the merchant declared that he had sold out today but would have more tomorrow.
Rationing his supplies perhaps? But how is he keeping them frozen? This bears investigation. Can he keep food frozen through summer?
Parting with Ylva for the time being she headed back towards the Longhouse. If whatever he was doing could keep food frozen year round, they would be much less reliant on imports from Vinland or Thokeyjar. More food meant more people and more people meant more people able to grow more food. That still leaves the problem of Horses however, probably worsens it
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[1] Beothuk religion is difficult to reconstruct but a Sun/Moon theme seems to be prominent
[2] Norse measure of distance roughly equivalent to 1 mile
[3] þordis' daughter and presumptive heir
[4] Norse for Magic, Ingjolfr isn't using magic but people don't know that.
Utaneyjar Settlements 855
While the Norse settlements on Vinland grew rapidly and Thokeyjar practiced assimilition of the Mi'kmaq, the population of þordisrike was mostly stagnant. It's position in Vinland Bay initially saw this as little problem as it allowed it to place themselves as a neutral third party between the traditional enemies of Mi'kmaq and Laurentians. As trade increased however, so did the risk and transmission of disease and by 855 Cowpox was endemic in the cultures throughout the bay and further beyond in the lands south of it. Along with several of it's people now exploring the lands south of Kannata in the company of Jigonhsasee and a stuttering young man the population began to drop. In order to entice more women to settle and thus keep the population stable, Jarl þordis I proposed to the þing to lower the recognised age of Baugrygyr from 20 to 18. Some of the initial Baugrgyr who traveled from Vinland to learn Kannata's Seiðr had settled some years earlier before marrying within the settlements.
The Baugrygr, used to a high level of independence that occasionally drew scorn from their male counterparts, were understandably enticed by much of Kannata's culture and began to adopt parts of it for their own as they settled on the island, with some having a children while refusing to marry in order to retain headship of their own family. While neither pre-marital sex nor illegitimate children were frowned upon from a moral perspective by the Norse, they were from a legal perspective. While the legal effects would not be apparent for years to come, culturally matronymics began to appear more frequently than patronymics on the island.
The vote passed by a narrow margin and more travelling Baugrygyr settled. þordisrike however was not the only place whose culture was beginning to shift however.
The Beothuk had long been semi-nomadic out of necessity as the growing season on Vinland was too short to allow for the cultivation of corn. The introduction of cattle, sheep and pigs however saw them now capable of having a sustainable food source leading to the introduction of permanent settlements, mostly in the east coast. The most major of which were Kuiseesh and Gewzenasheek[1]. As these settlements grew they began to adopt their own style of political structure outside of that of Vinland's Vesþing rather than wishing to join it or have their voice on it, allowing stable if initially uneasy trade between them and Erikland as it became clear to each that neither was going anywhere but should get used to treating each other as foreigners.
Kuiseesh, so named for the divinity it worshipped soon found itself hostile towards the growing inland Beo-Nordic faith that saw Baldr as the sole god, grew quickly as it's position allowed for an easy defense from inland raiders. Followers of the Beo-Nordic faith found themselves considered outlaw within the town. It's treatment of the Norse faith itself however was much less antagonistic, a foreigner's faith was their business after all.
Gewzenasheek, furthest removed from either Norse or other Beothuk settlements saw it's population increase much more slowly, in turn however this allowed it to develop more independently of Norse influences. Animals and metals were traded from secondary sources rather than directly resulting in the settlement having an abundance of technology it lacked the knowledge to make. Frequent attempts to reproduce the metals saw little success as would-be smiths unkowingly be using inviable materials. One of these attempts however would produce a bizarre, blue vitreous material similar in appearence to obsidian.[2]
[1]"Little Moon" and "Little Mainland" respectively in the Beothuk Language
[2]Glass Slag
Love this TL but i have a little nitpick.
Unless These new Vikings want to make the Baltic Crusades look like a picnic, they will have to convert to Christianity. There is no way Germanic Paganism will survive in Europe at least and slowly Vinland as well. Perhaps more cultural identities could be retained, but as whole, yeah.....Germanic Paganism would have to go. It simply wasn't united enough to withstand Christianity. Like if a Christian said "That's guys a pagan!" then every nearby Christian would swarm the poor Pagan until he converted back in those days and when a pagan would say "That guy's a christian!" then the pagans would simply look at the Christian and shrug then go their merry way.
Unless These new Vikings want to make the Baltic Crusades look like a picnic, they will have to convert to Christianity. There is no way Germanic Paganism will survive in Europe at least and slowly Vinland as well. Perhaps more cultural identities could be retained, but as whole, yeah.....Germanic Paganism would have to go. It simply wasn't united enough to withstand Christianity. Like if a Christian said "That's guys a pagan!" then every nearby Christian would swarm the poor Pagan until he converted back in those days and when a pagan would say "That guy's a christian!" then the pagans would simply look at the Christian and shrug then go their merry way.
That's why I said slowly across to Vinland. The fact is the Vikings with their numbers even in suitable climate like in North America will not be able to fight the European Christians with their low population density for another hundreds of years until the population evens out. In those span of hundreds of years, it's pretty obvious christianization will have been deeply rooted in Vinland as well.
Do you seriously believe that once the Europeans hear about the New World they will twiddle their fingers and say "Nah I think I wanna stay here and not exploit any opportunities in this new land."
No they will say "What? The heathens are travelling to a new continent across the seas to escape conversion? Treasonous behavior I tell you. Make plans immediately. We need an expedition of our own to this new continent. Take a few bishops along the way will you? We need to be able to 'civilize' them of course, and convert their lands to church lands while your at it."
However if Germanic Paganism can make a proper defined structure not fractured like it was OTL It could survive, but I don't think the probability is high. In our timeline, they converted mostly peacefully (Discounting Olaf of Norway) and most of them converted willingly because they could be a part of the 'Christian Club' and get all the benefits that come from it. Plus assimilating a larger population of angry Anglo-Saxons and the remnants of the Celts in Britain who are staunch christian's seem like the greatest recipe for a rebellion to kick off and overthrow the pagan king. This was one of the major reasons as to why so many Norse kings converted in the first place. And if you say they will assimilate the Anglo-Saxons and Celts, don't make laugh. The Anglo-Saxon population in Britain was 4x larger than the Norse population in Scandinavia. Small armies and a few royals will not have the ability to assimilate them (Thus the reason why Canute never tried, he knew it was futile, though his nobles did try him to do so). And you said it yourself. The chain of supplies to Vinland is long. European Vikings will undoubtedly go Christian. The amount of incoming pagans will decrease which will lead to some minor or major, depending how the situation goes, demographic problems. The amount of population in Vinland will not be able to resist the other Europeans when they eventually arrive, most likely centuries earlier due to the successful colonization of Vinland. Beside being so far on the supply chain means that for a good amount of time they will be clueless about new European military tactics and advancements, a recipe for disaster for Vinland should war erupt between the Europeans and Vinlanders especially if it erupts due to religious factors.
As of 855, The Americas are becoming more widely known but the Norse have control of most potential routes across the Atlantic from Europe. The Umayyads and the remnant West Irish Kingdoms currently have the most viable chance of successful expeditions but their window to do so is shrinking. The Azores have just been discovered and settled by a small number of Vikings, so the Umayyads could easily overwhelm them.
European Norse are indeed for converting to Christianity for the reasons you stated. Vinlandic Norse will be staying pagan, currently syncretism will be the norm for a century or two before increasing pressures from TTLs Haudenosaunee force them to adapt a more structured priesthood.
Anglo-Saxon assimilation is right out. Even attempting to do so would be lunacy. A few generations into Norse rule and Britain/Ireland will effectively be ruled by native nobles. Norse-Gaels will be slightly more numerous but even so, they're not for displacing the Celts.
Most of Ingjolfr's journeys will be the 'mapping' (before anyone says it, I'm aware that the Norse of this time do you not use maps) of the Great Lakes, Austland and the Carribean which will result in the influx of new crops that will allow Vinland to be self-sustaining rather than be dependent on continuing immigration from Europe. Native societies have also experienced a much less devastating population and are currently in their own technological revolution meaning they'll have their own tactics and advancements that Europeans have never seen.
Tell that to the Turks, the Japanese, the Tunisians, the Vietnamese, the Egyptians, the Bengali, the Rajput, the Tartars, the...
Just because christianity had some unlikely successes in their attempts to eradicate all outside thinking doesn't mean that they get a +30% modifier to construction speed and -60% diplomatic malus from genocides, to stop the game from diverging too far from IRL history. Life isn't a video game, a butterfly flaps its wings and the Inca counter-attack conquers contemporary Spanish new world holdings and they establish a Celestial Empire to last a thousand years. Weird shit can happen. Just because some of the weird shit that happened to happen historically worked out well for the christians doesn't mean that was the only way for things to play out. There is no reason to believe the Americas would fall in this timeline as they did historically, and every reason to think they won't.
Quick thing, From what I understand stand, the Greenland Colony Collapses do to Vitamin D deficiency. How do you attempt to pervent this?
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vitamin D Deficiency in Europeans Today and in Viking Settlers of Greenland - PubMed
The vast majority of the Earth's population lives between the 20th and 40th parallel north and south. It seems that right here humans have found the best living conditions relating not only to temperature and food recourses, but also to UV radiation necessary for the production of vitamin D by...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Quick thing, From what I understand stand, the Greenland Colony Collapses do to Vitamin D deficiency. How do you attempt to pervent this?
Vitamin D Deficiency in Europeans Today and in Viking Settlers of Greenland - PubMed
The vast majority of the Earth's population lives between the 20th and 40th parallel north and south. It seems that right here humans have found the best living conditions relating not only to temperature and food recourses, but also to UV radiation necessary for the production of vitamin D by...
A steady influx of fish from the Grand Banks and then crops from further afield . TTLs Vinland is much less precarious than OTL, so the Norse are slowly beginning to outnumber the Beothuk* allowing for Iceland and Greenland to be supplied bidirectionally. Greenland will be peripheral for a while as I'm currently researching arctic flora a la Sweetvech and viability of Large-Scale greenhouse farming in pre-industrial societies.
850-900 will see the introduction of Sweet Potatoes, Potatoes, Cohosh and refined transportation of such crops throughout Vinland and beyond.
Greenland will see continued settlement from both Iceland and America post 900 as it's position is far too valuable for either to abandon.
*FUCK This language. It's clearly NOT alqonquin despite it's superficilal similarities, so reconstructing it from the few words we do know of it is aggravating