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Asami
Banned
Hey guys, I've decided I want to reboot this timeline. The more I think about post-1945, the more I realize this timeline really has no future in what I write. It just slogs down into a mess of author backtracking (Turquoise, look, your character's presidency was literally entirely the backpedaling and attempted revisions of history...), BUT I really BLOODY FUCKING hate the fact that I'm ABANDONING ANOTHER BLOODY TIMELINE (seriously, go through my history, every timeline I've ever made has been abandoned... maybe I'll revisit them! I still really want to redo The Western Leviathan, and Peace Without Victors. Those were my favorites. ;_; )
But this isn't technically be abandoned, it's being rebooted! I'm still holding onto my Turtledove because it's the same timeline, and nobody can take that away from me! RAWR! *aggression*
Anyway, I'll post the rebooted TL's first page when I can. Until then, maybe I'll also do some work on my older timelines, or maybe even Waters of Life, or my satirical "Madness, I Tell You!" TL...
Truth be told, I've been posting stuff lately (more often than not, actually) that kind of makes me look like a white ultranat. and I really DO NOT LIKE THAT. I'm just a person. ;_;
But I'm just so awful at writing. Everything I touch dies. ;_;
> A Girl ISOT'd to 1933 -- this TL was... no.
> Peace Without Victors -- Tore myself to shreds b/c I wasn't very good at writing a TL about a victorious Kaiserreich that didn't basically rip off the DH mod Kaiserreich
> That one Monarchist US TL rebooted three times -- Always turned out to be way too much of an America wank to be easily believed; Ugh.
> Dreamcast Wank TL -- Couldn't sustain it because it was being too much of a Sega-MS wank.
> This TL -- "Liberal America in Africa" went far too off kilter, and now it's just ASB-fueled.
> House of the Rising Sun -- I COULDN'T WRITE A POV TIMELINE BECAUSE IGRFIJVOKD
> Good President Bess -- CANNOT INTO TIMELINES
> Madness, I Tell You! -- ...I took my anti-Zionism a bit too far.
Could someone please kill me so I stop being optimistic about writing timelines, which never work? ;_;
(Yes, that is from West Wing. My favorite TV show ever; did you know I discovered this show... like, this year? Through this website?
)
But this isn't technically be abandoned, it's being rebooted! I'm still holding onto my Turtledove because it's the same timeline, and nobody can take that away from me! RAWR! *aggression*
Anyway, I'll post the rebooted TL's first page when I can. Until then, maybe I'll also do some work on my older timelines, or maybe even Waters of Life, or my satirical "Madness, I Tell You!" TL...
Truth be told, I've been posting stuff lately (more often than not, actually) that kind of makes me look like a white ultranat. and I really DO NOT LIKE THAT. I'm just a person. ;_;
But I'm just so awful at writing. Everything I touch dies. ;_;
> A Girl ISOT'd to 1933 -- this TL was... no.
> Peace Without Victors -- Tore myself to shreds b/c I wasn't very good at writing a TL about a victorious Kaiserreich that didn't basically rip off the DH mod Kaiserreich
> That one Monarchist US TL rebooted three times -- Always turned out to be way too much of an America wank to be easily believed; Ugh.
> Dreamcast Wank TL -- Couldn't sustain it because it was being too much of a Sega-MS wank.
> This TL -- "Liberal America in Africa" went far too off kilter, and now it's just ASB-fueled.
> House of the Rising Sun -- I COULDN'T WRITE A POV TIMELINE BECAUSE IGRFIJVOKD
> Good President Bess -- CANNOT INTO TIMELINES
> Madness, I Tell You! -- ...I took my anti-Zionism a bit too far.
Could someone please kill me so I stop being optimistic about writing timelines, which never work? ;_;
(Yes, that is from West Wing. My favorite TV show ever; did you know I discovered this show... like, this year? Through this website?
)
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shiftygiant
Gone Fishin'
A tear softly fell from a face, and a thousand people start their 'Alt-America' TL's
Seriously though, gonna miss LoF, did like it. At least it isn't going away forever, and a reboot should be interesting
Also, I don't think you went to ASB. Bit too 'Spite of a Nail', but not really ASB.
Seriously though, gonna miss LoF, did like it. At least it isn't going away forever, and a reboot should be interesting
Also, I don't think you went to ASB. Bit too 'Spite of a Nail', but not really ASB.
Asami
Banned
A tear softly fell from a face, and a thousand people start their 'Alt-America' TL's
Seriously though, gonna miss LoF, did like it. At least it isn't going away forever, and a reboot should be interesting
Also, I don't think you went to ASB. Bit too 'Spite of a Nail', but not really ASB.
Oh, believe you me. It's "In Spite of A Nail" especially in the 1960s. Counter-culturalism!
Oh well, I dunno. I just don't want to make it too counter-factual (you know, super realistic) -- it could be good, but I don't want it to be BORING.
Would you mind if we discuss this issue more in your Concept for Georgia thread or just here?
Every Ameriwank timeline that I've attempted I've also abandoned. Look at my Imperial Commonwealth of the United States, for example.
The premise I gave you is quite good, in a way. You can make minor and subtle handwaves to make this doable, if you are not looking for all-out plausibility. My alternative proposal for the establishment of Georgia looks good in that sense. But let's explore every situation so that you can find a way through it.
In my alternative premise, It's going to mean that Georgia has to remain a British protectorate republic for a while and the British East India Company finding a way to bring British India closer to the Cape than to London. It's like how the Philippines was ruled from Mexico than Madrid from 1565 to 1821. It's actually a bit farfetched since the grant of dominion status wouldn't happen until Canada in 1867. It's not yet a mature concept. But I'm assuming that the Amerikaner exile community and the surviving rebel leaders can find a way to compromise with London by providing some paper fealty to the Crown, hence the use of the name "Georgia" and the Parliament approving any agreement to be made leading to this scenario. This is tricky, to be honest.
Another tricky situation is if the Dutch allow themselves to be de facto vassals of London and the British fleet allowing Ceylon and the Dutch East Indies to be governed from Georgia. Then we'll have a Georgian-Dutch personal union through the House of Orange after the Napoleonic Wars while Georgia is a paper Anglo-Dutch condominium but in reality, a British protectorate.
Another problem is the long standing Anglo-Portuguese alliance getting in the way of expanding into Portuguese territory for Georgia. But you can bring Omani East Africa into British-Georgian orbit. Then have a federalization proposal under British protection happening. The Portuguese can be brought once international governance in Male Rising style became possible.
I can also see internal divisions in Georgia between the Boer and the Amerikaner leading to the Boer Great Trek. However, these Boer republics of OTL are going to become Georgian provinces.
Georgia established itself with Thomas Paine's progressivistic/proto-socialist ideals through his writings during the French Revolution and Agrarian Justice in 1797 implemented in a more tightly knit settler colonial society with a system of manumission for remaining African slaves. Intermarriage is going to happen and giving the franchise to Africans and Cape Coloureds is possible. But Thomas Paine is a revolutionary republican, anti-monarchist, abolitionist, hardcore democrat and semi-atheist. He can be too much for the religious Afrikaner community. And he's going to advocate full-scale Georgian independence. So it's tricky.
I can see greater immigration as a possibility if the American frontier remained close until 1800 and greater regulations restricting westward expansion on the part of the British government.
We'll have a problem with a Georgian Industrial Revolution. You need a Georgia with good rivers, high amounts of coal and a strong government to raise tariffs. Can we find a way for this? Is there a region in South Africa that is closer to New England? In a way, with the British around, it's not that a high need. The British fleet and the East India Company can take care of expansion for Georgia. I see Georgia as something closer to the ideal of Jeffersonian agrarian democracy. It's even better without slavery.
The Royal Niger Company also has to be brought to the Georgian orbit so that we can get to western Africa and then have this company get to OTL Belgian Congo.
We can avoid the American Revolution altogether but find a way for discontented Americans for whatever reasons to leave the colonies for South Africa. However, usually, you have this happening because of violent conflict.
That's all I can think now.
Every Ameriwank timeline that I've attempted I've also abandoned. Look at my Imperial Commonwealth of the United States, for example.
The premise I gave you is quite good, in a way. You can make minor and subtle handwaves to make this doable, if you are not looking for all-out plausibility. My alternative proposal for the establishment of Georgia looks good in that sense.
But let's explore every situation so that you can find a way through it.In my alternative premise, It's going to mean that Georgia has to remain a British protectorate republic for a while and the British East India Company finding a way to bring British India closer to the Cape than to London. It's like how the Philippines was ruled from Mexico than Madrid from 1565 to 1821. It's actually a bit farfetched since the grant of dominion status wouldn't happen until Canada in 1867. It's not yet a mature concept. But I'm assuming that the Amerikaner exile community and the surviving rebel leaders can find a way to compromise with London by providing some paper fealty to the Crown, hence the use of the name "Georgia" and the Parliament approving any agreement to be made leading to this scenario. This is tricky, to be honest.
Another tricky situation is if the Dutch allow themselves to be de facto vassals of London and the British fleet allowing Ceylon and the Dutch East Indies to be governed from Georgia. Then we'll have a Georgian-Dutch personal union through the House of Orange after the Napoleonic Wars while Georgia is a paper Anglo-Dutch condominium but in reality, a British protectorate.
Another problem is the long standing Anglo-Portuguese alliance getting in the way of expanding into Portuguese territory for Georgia. But you can bring Omani East Africa into British-Georgian orbit. Then have a federalization proposal under British protection happening. The Portuguese can be brought once international governance in Male Rising style became possible.
I can also see internal divisions in Georgia between the Boer and the Amerikaner leading to the Boer Great Trek. However, these Boer republics of OTL are going to become Georgian provinces.
Georgia established itself with Thomas Paine's progressivistic/proto-socialist ideals through his writings during the French Revolution and Agrarian Justice in 1797 implemented in a more tightly knit settler colonial society with a system of manumission for remaining African slaves. Intermarriage is going to happen and giving the franchise to Africans and Cape Coloureds is possible. But Thomas Paine is a revolutionary republican, anti-monarchist, abolitionist, hardcore democrat and semi-atheist. He can be too much for the religious Afrikaner community. And he's going to advocate full-scale Georgian independence. So it's tricky.
I can see greater immigration as a possibility if the American frontier remained close until 1800 and greater regulations restricting westward expansion on the part of the British government.
We'll have a problem with a Georgian Industrial Revolution. You need a Georgia with good rivers, high amounts of coal and a strong government to raise tariffs. Can we find a way for this? Is there a region in South Africa that is closer to New England? In a way, with the British around, it's not that a high need. The British fleet and the East India Company can take care of expansion for Georgia. I see Georgia as something closer to the ideal of Jeffersonian agrarian democracy. It's even better without slavery.
The Royal Niger Company also has to be brought to the Georgian orbit so that we can get to western Africa and then have this company get to OTL Belgian Congo.
We can avoid the American Revolution altogether but find a way for discontented Americans for whatever reasons to leave the colonies for South Africa. However, usually, you have this happening because of violent conflict.
That's all I can think now.
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shiftygiant
Gone Fishin'
Oh, believe you me. It's "In Spite of A Nail" especially in the 1960s. Counter-culturalism!
Oh well, I dunno. I just don't want to make it too counter-factual (you know, super realistic) -- it could be good, but I don't want it to be BORING.
Well, there are certain trends that you can reliably follow (like how a period of liberalism will be followed by a period of conservatism) without making it boring, and whilst yeah having a PC by 1940 is a little bit weird, having the PC invented by Hitler in 1910 is just fun and interesting.
Good luck in the future though. It's been a fun ride
Asami
Banned
@Libertad: But see, that's way too much change from my intentions. To be honest, I did have a response to Africa's hostile environment in this timeline. Since I'm done with this, I'll release my notes on the matter.
1945-1951 ("Michael Steele")
1945-1951 ("Michael Steele")
- Detonation of first hydrogen bomb
- Mass proliferation of the personal computer by IBM
- Massive reconstruction of Western Europe which has severe depopulation
- Mexican republicans rise up and cause a short-lived civil war
- Racial tensions in Columbia over formerly manumissed slaves wanting recompensation; "Back to Africa" movement taking shape causing a large number of Afro-Americans to immigrate to Georgia
- Canada further weakens the monarchy's power in the country
- South America has a period of civil unrest after Che Guevara, part of the idealistic faction of the Communist Party, challenges the old guard and leads a popular movement to take office
- Indochina wins full indepedendence in 1949
- Dwight D. Eisenhauer defeats Michael Steele in 1951.
- War in Nikaea
- First man enters space, early 1954
- Rise of Gisela Zuiderduin and her Movement for Social Justice
- Burma erupts into civil unrest between nationalists and Indian Army.
- Siam stops being a Georgian protectorate in 1955
- Arab nationalists seize the Suez Canal for 28 days in 1956
- Military tensions begin to rise between Kingdom of Arabia and Republic of Georgia
- Gisela Zuiderduin is elected President of Georgia in 1961.
- Generally speaking, Gisela Zuiderduin is going to embody a new generation of Georgians. More critical of the Dark War's motives, more critical of the old society/old guard, and more liberal than ever in most cases.
- Smoking age raised in the name of "protecting the people"
- President Zuiderduin takes a huge PR hit after a failed amendment to ban marijuana, she nearly loses 1966 before managing to win after making a coalition with the Communists.
- Rise of Symbiotism (this is important!)
- Georgia invades Arabia and occupies it in 1967-1968 after accusations that Arabia is harboring a neo-Gaullist organization.
- Burma goes nuclear after India tests a nuclear bomb against a Burmese military column.
- Georgia and India break relations, China does so as well.
- After 148 days of tense military tensions and nuclear preparedness, India withdraws from Burma, and Burma becomes independent on February 18, 1969.
- Artemis 8 is the first manned moon mission; takes place on September 4, 1967 -- the three astronauts cannot return to Earth. Zuiderduin gives the "Fate has ordained that the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace." speech. All three astronauts die on the moon; Georgia is inspired to go further with space travel. Manned mission to Mars planned by 1980.
- Gisela Zuiderduin does not stand for a third term, and is replaced by Kenya-born Margaret Thatcher.
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Asami
Banned
September 1, 1939 - April 1, 1951: Michael Steele - Constitutional Union-Populist (24th)
April 1, 1951 - April 1, 1961: Dwight D. Eisenhauer - Communist-Free Democratic (25th)
April 1, 1961 - April 1, 1971: Gisela Zuiderduin- Communist-SDFL-Symbiotist (26th)
April 1, 1971 - October 9, 1989: Margaret Thatcher - Communist-Libertarian-SDFL-Symbiotist, Resigned due to health (27th)
October 9, 1989 - April 1, 1991: Ferdinand William van Oranje-Nassau - Communist-Libertarian-SDFL-Symbiotist (28th)
April 1, 1991 - April 1, 1996: Peter Epson - Constitutional Union (29th)
April 1, 1996 - September 18, 2004: Zachary Hale-Johnson - Communist-Libertarian-Social Democratic-Symbiotist, Resigned (30th)
September 18, 2004 - April 1, 2011: William Jefferson Sr. - Communist-Libertarian-Social Democratic-Symbiotist (31st)
April 1, 2011 - December 18, 2013: James Rhodes - Communist-Libertarian-Social Democratic-Symbiotist, Died in Office (32nd)
December 18, 2013 - present day: Magdalena Clarke - Communist-Libertarian-Social Democratic-Symbiotist (33rd)
April 1, 1951 - April 1, 1961: Dwight D. Eisenhauer - Communist-Free Democratic (25th)
April 1, 1961 - April 1, 1971: Gisela Zuiderduin- Communist-SDFL-Symbiotist (26th)
April 1, 1971 - October 9, 1989: Margaret Thatcher - Communist-Libertarian-SDFL-Symbiotist, Resigned due to health (27th)
October 9, 1989 - April 1, 1991: Ferdinand William van Oranje-Nassau - Communist-Libertarian-SDFL-Symbiotist (28th)
April 1, 1991 - April 1, 1996: Peter Epson - Constitutional Union (29th)
April 1, 1996 - September 18, 2004: Zachary Hale-Johnson - Communist-Libertarian-Social Democratic-Symbiotist, Resigned (30th)
September 18, 2004 - April 1, 2011: William Jefferson Sr. - Communist-Libertarian-Social Democratic-Symbiotist (31st)
April 1, 2011 - December 18, 2013: James Rhodes - Communist-Libertarian-Social Democratic-Symbiotist, Died in Office (32nd)
December 18, 2013 - present day: Magdalena Clarke - Communist-Libertarian-Social Democratic-Symbiotist (33rd)
Asami
Banned
A movement that wants to create as much arable land as possible to alleviate potential effects of overpopulation. Georgia has a population very close to OTL's Africa, so Symbiotism advocates scientific means to make more farmland!
This and environmentalist influences. Basically the core is kooky deep-ecology, but the mainstream ideology waters it down a lot.
Kinda sad to see the original version of this timeline end, though I still am glad its getting a reboot. This is one of my favorite timelines on the site, so I can't wait to see what becomes of the reboot.
Anyways, I'm all caught up with the timeline thus far. I may post my thoughts on those updates soon.
Anyways, I'm all caught up with the timeline thus far. I may post my thoughts on those updates soon.
Oh wow, you're rebooting this timeline?!
I thought it was going along very well, but anyway… I hope you can improve upon this in The Land of Freedom 2.0…. it's my favorite alternate history so far!
I thought it was going along very well, but anyway… I hope you can improve upon this in The Land of Freedom 2.0…. it's my favorite alternate history so far!
You can update the Table of Contents of Georgia for these supposedly final updates of the current incarnation of the timeline.
Again, I know that I'm asking too much and I humbly apologize for that my friend.
Actually, if you are going to look closely to the proposals I've made, they're basically add-ons to the current format with some modifications to change some things in the current scenario. It's about making the situation more believable.
The establishment of Georgia is still 1795 but I've dug deeper and twisted things to make it more believable than just this small South African colony gaining an ability to defeat the Royal Navy with strong intentions of taking over. But you have to make the French Revolution happen as it is. You just have to elaborate more on allowing Jefferson and the American exiles to gain influence in the small colony and bring the Afrikaners to the cause of getting away from London as much as what they can peacefully. If conflict happens, they're done. They have no choice. The closest possibility is British protectorateship and some token and disguised show of fealty to London. With the French Revolutionary Wars occurring, London will take the offer than using aggression. The task of the fleet in OTL in the first place is to find a way to gain the sympathy of the Afrikaners in fighting the French. I'm providing the conditions through Tom Paine correspondence with Jefferson.
I'm trying to explain the challenges so that you can find more creative writing in explaining things in the reboot.
Lisbon can lease Mozambique to Georgian companies ITTL in the same way that it was done to dominantly British owned companies IOTL starting in the 1890s. You just have to make it earlier ITTL. You have to change the War of 1812 though. In paper, Mozambique is still Portuguese but giving the Portuguese Governor-General privileges and access to Georgian institutions benefits Georgia more than Portugal given the sheer distance of Lisbon to Mozambique. You can turn Mozambique into a Georgian associated state in all but name just through economic penetration. Then the more humane treatment of Georgian companies can turn the Mozambique natives closer to the Cape than to Lisbon. That's a major victory already. If Lisbon responded by throwing the companies out; say goodbye to Portuguese East Africa and say hello to Georgian East Africa. Just find something to make it happen.
I'm also providing foundational conditions for Georgian expansion to western Africa through a Georgian United African Company and if you can, find a way for alternative ideologies like your world's Abacarism or Belloism among the native African populations and point them to Georgia.
Giving British immigrants in Georgia automatic citizenship is an enticement for more immigration. You can keep the American frontier close up to 1800 and then establish colonial regulatory frameworks to slow down the westward expansion. In that way; you have more prospective immigrants that came to America IOTL go to Georgia ITTL. These are just some of the things you can add that doesn't need too much change.
In regards to the Commonwealth of Georgia with a First Citizen; you can have Thomas Jefferson as the first one, yes, and he can also call himself a Governor-General in the name of William V of the Dutch Republic.
My proposals look like you have to make too many changes though, even if they are more of making some add-ons and "beautifications" so I really apologize if I'm asking too much. But you don't have to take my proposals.
Again, I know that I'm asking too much and I humbly apologize for that my friend.
Actually, if you are going to look closely to the proposals I've made, they're basically add-ons to the current format with some modifications to change some things in the current scenario. It's about making the situation more believable.
The establishment of Georgia is still 1795 but I've dug deeper and twisted things to make it more believable than just this small South African colony gaining an ability to defeat the Royal Navy with strong intentions of taking over. But you have to make the French Revolution happen as it is. You just have to elaborate more on allowing Jefferson and the American exiles to gain influence in the small colony and bring the Afrikaners to the cause of getting away from London as much as what they can peacefully. If conflict happens, they're done. They have no choice. The closest possibility is British protectorateship and some token and disguised show of fealty to London. With the French Revolutionary Wars occurring, London will take the offer than using aggression. The task of the fleet in OTL in the first place is to find a way to gain the sympathy of the Afrikaners in fighting the French. I'm providing the conditions through Tom Paine correspondence with Jefferson.
I'm trying to explain the challenges so that you can find more creative writing in explaining things in the reboot.
Lisbon can lease Mozambique to Georgian companies ITTL in the same way that it was done to dominantly British owned companies IOTL starting in the 1890s. You just have to make it earlier ITTL. You have to change the War of 1812 though. In paper, Mozambique is still Portuguese but giving the Portuguese Governor-General privileges and access to Georgian institutions benefits Georgia more than Portugal given the sheer distance of Lisbon to Mozambique. You can turn Mozambique into a Georgian associated state in all but name just through economic penetration. Then the more humane treatment of Georgian companies can turn the Mozambique natives closer to the Cape than to Lisbon. That's a major victory already. If Lisbon responded by throwing the companies out; say goodbye to Portuguese East Africa and say hello to Georgian East Africa. Just find something to make it happen.
I'm also providing foundational conditions for Georgian expansion to western Africa through a Georgian United African Company and if you can, find a way for alternative ideologies like your world's Abacarism or Belloism among the native African populations and point them to Georgia.
Giving British immigrants in Georgia automatic citizenship is an enticement for more immigration. You can keep the American frontier close up to 1800 and then establish colonial regulatory frameworks to slow down the westward expansion. In that way; you have more prospective immigrants that came to America IOTL go to Georgia ITTL. These are just some of the things you can add that doesn't need too much change.
In regards to the Commonwealth of Georgia with a First Citizen; you can have Thomas Jefferson as the first one, yes, and he can also call himself a Governor-General in the name of William V of the Dutch Republic.
My proposals look like you have to make too many changes though, even if they are more of making some add-ons and "beautifications" so I really apologize if I'm asking too much. But you don't have to take my proposals.
Asami
Banned
You can update the Table of Contents of Georgia for these supposedly final updates of the current incarnation of the timeline.
I'm going to not update it. Unless I backpedal on the reboot.
Meh, it's fine.Again, I know that I'm asking too much and I humbly apologize for that my friend.
To be honest, the circumstances I had are good -- convincing Britain to leave them alone in exchange for certain concessions. But protectorate status may work.
I understand.
Once again, I reiterate the problem that if things go too slowly, Georgia will be nothing more than a regional power that gets kicked about by Europe, and then my timeline becomes boring as shit. Georgia being limited to South Africa is BORING.
It just seems like this is compromising the timeline in far too significant a manner. Georgia is not meant to be a very close analogue to South Africa. The point *was* for Georgia to span most, if not all of the African continent, and then some. I just don't think that it's characteristic of Jefferson and his comrades to be so accommodating to Britain and the Netherlands and their royal leadership.I'm also providing foundational conditions for Georgian expansion to western Africa through a Georgian United African Company and if you can, find a way for alternative ideologies like your world's Abacarism or Belloism among the native African populations and point them to Georgia.
Giving British immigrants in Georgia automatic citizenship is an enticement for more immigration. You can keep the American frontier close up to 1800 and then establish colonial regulatory frameworks to slow down the westward expansion. In that way; you have more prospective immigrants that came to America IOTL go to Georgia ITTL. These are just some of the things you can add that doesn't need too much change.
In regards to the Commonwealth of Georgia with a First Citizen; you can have Thomas Jefferson as the first one, yes, and he can also call himself a Governor-General in the name of William V of the Dutch Republic.
My proposals look like you have to make too many changes though, even if they are more of making some add-ons and "beautifications" so I really apologize if I'm asking too much. But you don't have to take my proposals.
It feels like the whole dynamic of the Georgians expanding entirely by merit of economics and being a schizoid vassal of Britain and the Netherlands will take forever before it can come to fruition and lead to Georgia spanning Africa. I don't want this timeline to be a "oh well, everything goes exactly as politically correct as can be with every single person in the empire being a happy camper" -- the reality of the situation is, some things don't work like that.
I feel like there's no point in Georgia just becoming another run-of-the-mill state being Africanized. While I don't approve of white assimilation in Africa, I still feel that having a white and black cooperative state is what makes this unique.