A Glorious Union or America: the New Sparta

I will stick through just to find out what three wars Grant is a hero of! Also, I like that Eisenhower is the author of that text :D. The other authors don't stick out as much.

Teaser:

Mexico is the 1st.
The Civil War/Slaveholders' War is the 2nd.
Grant deliberately starts the 3rd against an American ally...
 
Britain or France, i'm guessing.
So in this war, and from the small description above, i'm thinking that Grant is interested in the glory

I will say no more than its not ambition or glory - I try to play everyone in line with their established personality & behavioural patterns. While ambitious Grant was never a glory hound...
 
Chapter Forty-One Where in Hell or Mississippi is Joe Johnston?
Chapter Forty-One

Where in Hell or Mississippi is Joe Johnston?

From "The Side Show - Joseph E. Johnston and the Baton Rouge Campaign" by Prof. Guy Enterton
LSU 1992

"While Bragg was trying to distract Grant from the siege of Vicksburg, Joseph E. Johnston was ignoring Bragg’s pleas to come to his assistance. Instead the Army of the Gulf marched into Louisiana. Johnston’s objective was to liberate Louisiana’s state capitol, Baton Rouge, and to retake Port Hudson. His advance from Hattiesburg, Mississippi was well organised and largely unopposed, but elements of the advance were slow. Johnson had insisted in carrying along a “miniature siege train” made up of heavy caliber pieces taken from what Johnston considered redundant garrisons. The lack of proper carriages for the artillery and an inability to use either water transport or rail made it an extremely difficult (and in some cases impossible) task moving many of these pieces…​

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Generals Alfred Moulton, Camille-Prince de Polignac, Mansfield Lovell and Richard L. Page

While Grant was digging his “Alesia Fortifications” as they became known around Vicksburg, Johnston arrived before Baton Rouge. Fitz-John Porter had only left behind a hand full of untrained colored troops and some short service regiments approaching their expiry time, to defend the uncompleted works. Although many of Johnston’s troops could also be classed as militia and short term service formations, he did have two well trained experienced divisions under Richard Taylor – Major General Alfred Moulton’s Salamanders, Louisianans and Texans, and Brigadier General Camille Polignac’s Texans. Major General Mansfield Lovell commanded a division of mixed Alabama troops – mostly militia and former garrison troops but with a solid brigade of Alabama regulars under Brigadier General Richard L. Page. Johnston also had a scratch brigade of cavalry to hand though many considered them “the worst dregs in the Gulf. Attila’s Huns had more discipline” (Richard L. Page)…

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The Corps D'Afrique at Port Hudson

Johnston “waltzed” into Baton Rouge scooping up the short term servicemen. Only the colored troops fought with any determination. Although they fought bravely with inferior weaponry in unfinished defenses they could not withstand Johnston’s force. Horrible incidents followed as the less disciplined elements of Johnston’s command ran wild. It is estimated that of the 480 casualties among the colored formations at Baton Rouge, upwards of 210 officers and men were executed or simply murdered after surrendering before order could be restored…


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Brigadier General Daniel Ullman

Johnson moved on Port Hudson quickly. It was defended by Daniel Ullman’s Corps D’Afrique – 5 almost full strength field regiments, the 1st Louisana Heavy Artillery Regiment and the 1st Louisiana Engineers Regiment…
 
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Who was the US allied with in the 1860s? :confused:

That they could actually declare war against.

Russia? The friendly Juarez Mexican government? Probably wouldn't be France, because the term ally wouldn't apply to them after they blatantly violated the Monroe Doctrine in Mexico for the first half of the 60's and after the entire Mexico thing was resolved it would be pretty hard to find a reason to start a war with them over anything. Could be Britain, simply because the successes of any war that Grant does well enough to be termed hero are going to force Britain to stay in it long enough to use their overwhelming military advantage at the time to get a status quo antebellum peace.
 
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Chapter Forty-Two Vexed to the Sea
Chapter Forty-Two

Vexed to the Sea
From “Vicksburg or Bust” by John W. Scharf
Empire 1984

"A new problem confronted the Confederates. The dead and wounded of Grant's army lay in the heat of Mississippi summer, the odor of the deceased men and horses fouling the air, the wounded crying for medical help and water. Grant first refused a request of truce, thinking it a show of weakness. Finally he relented, and the Confederates held their fire while the Union recovered the wounded and dead, soldiers from both sides mingling and trading as if no hostilities existed for the moment. That is until the Union troops tried to remove the bodies of their fallen African American comrades. The truce collapsed as Confederate “snipers” opened up on the Union troops. It was another “dreadful southern atrocity to add to the list perpetrated by these godless rebels” trumpeted one Chicago newspaper…"

From "The Side Show - Joseph E. Johnston and the Baton Rouge Campaign" by Prof. Guy Enterton
LSU 1992


"Johnson’s effort to distract Grant by attacking Port Hudson failed. It was mainly defended by now veteran colored troops, who repulsed the initial assaults with help from Admiral Porter’s gunboats which inflicted a horrible toll on the rebels. The gunboats also prevented Johnston from maintaining the siege he had envisaged might be necessary. This loss at Port Hudson left the Confederate Army of the Gulf temporarily purposeless as the ambitious Johnston continued to avoid joining with argumentative Bragg.

In response to the growing Confederate activity in the area, Grant decided to dispatch troops from the Vicksburg trenches down the river. Brigadier General Alfred W. Ellet's Mississippi Marine Brigade and Joseph A. Mower's brigade from Sherman's corps were ordered to the vicinity of Port Hudson. Mower and Ellet were to use the river transport to cooperate against outlying elements of Johnston’s command, which remained stationed in the vicinity of Port Hudson. On July 15, Ellet and Mower defeated elements of Lovell’s Division and destroyed a portion of Johnson’s supplies…"

From “Vicksburg or Bust” by John W. Scharf
Empire 1984

"We have our trenches pulled up so close to the enemy that we can throw hand grenades over into their forts. The enemy do not dare show their heads above the parapet at any time, so close and so watchful are our sharpshooters. The town is completely invested. But my position is not so strong that I feel myself able to leave it to challenge Bragg yet. (Ulysses S. Grant writing to George G. Pride July 1863)…

Pemberton was boxed in with lots of inedible munitions and little food. The poor diet was showing on the Confederate soldiers. By mid July, the number of sick or hospitalized had risen substantially. Scurvy, malaria, dysentery, diarrhea, and other diseases cut their ranks. However Bragg’s decision to keep the bulk of his army in the field meant that the situation was not yet dire in the city…

During the siege, Union gunboats lobbed over 22,000 shells into the town and army artillery fire was even heavier. As the barrages continued, suitable housing in Vicksburg was reduced to a minimum. A ridge, located between the main town and the rebel defense line, provided a diverse citizenry with lodging for the duration. Over 500 caves were dug into the yellow clay hills of Vicksburg. Whether houses were structurally sound or not, it was deemed safer to occupy these dugouts. People did their best to make them comfortable, with rugs, furniture, and pictures. They tried to time their movements and foraging with the rhythm of the cannonade, sometimes unsuccessfully. Because of these dugouts or caves, the Union soldiers gave the town the nickname of "Prairie Dog Village." Despite the ferocity of the Union fire against the town, fewer than a dozen civilians were known to have been killed during the entire siege…"

Taken from "The Gallant Fitz - The Life and Letters of Major General Fitzjohn Porter" Edited by Terence O. Oliver
Great Bear Books 1982

"In the siege lines McClernand was senior to Fitz-John Porter, and despite his initial disgust at serving under an amateur, Porter quickly found a way to work with his superior. Stephen Hurlbut was junior to both…"

From “Vicksburg or Bust” by John W. Scharf
Empire 1984

"In the outer lines watching Bragg, Sherman had command over his own and McPherson’s Corps. McPherson’s performance had been disappointing so far in the campaign and Sherman had resolved to keep a close eye on him…

Lieutenant General Edmund Kirby Smith, commander of the Trans-Mississippi Department, received a telegraph from Bragg in June requesting a movement against Grant's communication lines along the Mississippi River. Grant had established important supply depots at Milliken's Bend, Young's Point, and Lake Providence within Smith's jurisdiction, but Smith had been stripped of many of his best troops to support Bragg and Johnston already. Smith also remained hostile to co-operation with Bragg following his injury in Kentucky. Little was done by Smith beyond a demonstration before Milliken’s Bend which amounted to very little…

Union troops tunneled under the Louisiana Redan and packed the mine with 2,200 pounds of gunpowder. The explosion blew apart the Confederate lines on July 28, while an infantry attack made by troops from Porter’s Corps, followed the blast. These troops charged around the deep crater with ease, and could not be stopped by recovering Confederate infantry.

Union engineers directed McClernand’s supporting attack to a “weak spot” in the defenses in his sector which allowed him to break through the rebel lines. It was the same spot at which Carr had made his break through at 2 and a half weeks earlier, an irony not lost on Carr or Grant...

Confederate soldiers fell back to an inner defensive line but Union numbers were too great and they were overwhelmed within an hour. On July 29 a captured Pemberton was brought before Grant to surrender his sword. Pemberton sought parole for all prisoners. The political generals, McClernand and Hurlbut both advised against this, as did Sherman. Reluctantly Grant made arrangements to ship the prisoners north. It would take another three weeks for Grant to reorganize his men, deal with the prisoners and garrison the city...

Although the Vicksburg Campaign was both then (and indeed subsequnetly) overshadowed by events in Virginia, particularly the fall of Richmond, the fortress city had fallen and, with the successful defense of Port Hudson, the Mississippi River was firmly in Union hands and the Confederacy split in two. As McClernand famously observed in another of his proclamations to his westerners, "The Big Muddy again flows free down to the Sea"…

Grant still faced two rebel armies in Louisiana and Mississippi that combined could stand up to the Army of the Mississippi in a fair fight. With the restoration of a degree of Confederate Government organization in Atlanta, the new Secretary of War ordered Johnston to unite his force with Bragg. To Johnston’s disgust he was then ordered to hand over command to Bragg and was to return to Atlanta for discussions with the cabinet. The Department of the Gulf experiment was over…"
 
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Looks like the Confederates are in big trouble; they lose Richmond and Vicksburg, plus their policies have made them international pariahs, so they can expect little support from other nations.
 
Interesting though because the rebels now have three largeish (larger than OTL) field armies. Bragg has saved the rump of the Army of Mississippi from the Vicksburg surrender plus the troops from Texas (Taylor's command), Arkansas (Marmaduke) and the Alabama militia. So Grant can't run off to Tennessee.

Lee has the garrisons from Richmond and Petersburg while the Union must garrison those cities.

And I assume Hardee is still intact in Tennessee, though that's still 3 months behind the rest.

So we can expect the rebels to go on the offensive?

I wonder who the new Secretary of War is?
 
Chapter Forty-Three Hard Times for Hardee Part I
Chapter Forty-Three

Hard Times for Hardee
Part I


The Heartlands Campaign Discussion Group at the 38th Annual Civil War Conference at Louisiana State University hosted by Professor Douglas Lee Bannerman...

"Today we are examining the often overlooked Heartland Campaign and the performance of the generals on both sides. The period of January through June 1863 in Tennessee is often overshadowed by the campaigns in Virginia and on the Mississippi, but in recent years the spotlight has more and more frequently been shone on Hardee and Rosecrans.

We will be looking at a campaign that included 5 major battles – Spring Hill, Williamsport, Mount Pleasant, Pulaski and Elk River. Joining me today in examining the campaign are:

Jones N. Keegan, historian, park guide and author of “The Battle of Shelbyville” and “First Light – The Battle of Spring Hill”;
C.M. Townsend, lecturer in 19th century history at MacArthur University, and author of “The Battle of Duck River” and “The Southern Trinity – Hardee, Cleburne and Churchill”;
James Fitzgerald Maguire, retired attorney, historian, and author of “The Irish Corporal – The Life of Patrick Ronayne Cleburne”, “The Irish in the Western Armies” and “The San Patricios Reborn”; and finally
Col. J.T. Starke (ret), author of “Army of the Heartland” and 7 regimental histories of units in both the Army of the Cumberland and the Army of Tennessee.

Hardee would go into this campaign with a substantially altered command structure following the Battle of Shelbyville/Duck River (I know Jones and Charles disagree to this day about the proper name for the battle). The death of Polk caused Hardee to split his army into three wings or corps: Cheatham’s Left (divisions of A.P.Stewart and Jones M.Withers), Cleburne’s Centre (divisions of Bushrod Johnson and Preston Smith) and Breckinridge’s Right (divisions of John P.McCown and Thomas James Churchill). Hardee’s promotion to full general had also been authorised by Congress after his recent successes.

Rosecrans had not altered his command structure after the Duck River Campaign but he had been joined by two divisions of the newly constituted XXIII Corps under William “Bull” Nelson as they rested at Spring Hill. A third division would soon join them.

Although the period in Tennessee had been good for the Army of Tennessee in terms of supplies (and particularly in horseflesh) there had been no widespread volunteerism, and although conscription had been enforced to an increasing degree in the Confederate controlled areas in Tennessee, the Confederate Army was still substantially outnumbered by the Army of the Cumberland.

Spring Hill

Gentlemen let’s start with the Battle of Spring Hill. Forrest’s cavalry sweeps across the Duck River pushing the Union cavalry back. What looks like just another Confederate cavalry raid in a long succession, is in fact cover for the Army of the Tennessee crossing the River in a lightening march on Rosecrans encamped army at Spring Hill. The Confederates surprise the Union army at dawn on the morning of 20 March 1863.

Crittenden’s XXI Corps is quickly scattered and put to flight in the course of less than an hour by Cleburne’s wing. Breckinridge manages to stampede Johnson’s Division of McCook’s XX Corps, and McCook is knocked unconscious in the rout. However Davis and Sheridan steady their commands and halt Breckinridge’s momentum. Finally Cheatham’s wing attacks the division of Lovell Rousseau, later than planned, and Rousseau, warned by the sounds of battle elsewhere, manages to form his brigades into a line of battle and fights a lone struggle until Thomas can get the other elements of XIV Corps into the fight. What in the early morning looks like a disaster for the Union, is a stalemate by midday, and with the arrival of elements of Nelson’s XXIII Corps turns into a Union victory in the afternoon.

Keegan – It's a classic case of over confidence among the rebel command. While I acknowledge Hardee’s tactical expertise, he was no strategist. The Battle of Spring Hill was not one the south could win. All the elements of Rosecrans’ army were in supporting distance of one another, which to date had not been the case on other battlefields. Hardee exposed his army to disaster with an over ambitious plan, all be it well executed, that left him with his back to the river.​

Townsend – Firstly I don’t think you can either credit or blame Hardee for the notion of an aggressive move. His departmental commander, Bragg, had ordered an attack on Rosecrans to try to uncover Nashville following Hardee’s victories on the Duck River. Bragg was probably one of the most aggressive commanders the south had so I see him as the impetus for the move and his wirtten orders back up that conclusion.​

I fundamentally disagree with Jones about the prospects for the move. Rosecrans had taken no serious precautions and had not entrenched. Both Cleburne’s and Breckenridge’s attacks put large elements of the Federals to flight. The failure generally can be attributed to the execution of Cheatham’s part of the plan. His delay on moving against Thomas corps, arguably the best led corps in Rosecrans’ army, allowed Rousseau to prevent any panic. Cheatham’s delay and Rousseau’s resolve changed the outcome of the battle. Spring Hill in my mind is a major lost opportunity for the rebels.​

Starke – I have to agree with Jones that Spring Hill strategically was a step too far for the Confederates. The chances of their scoring a sufficiently decisive victory to permit the recapture of Nashville were minimal. Bear in mind that Rosecrans effectively had a full corps unengaged in reserve, Nelson's encamped well north of Spring Hill, as well as the garrison of the city.​

On the other hand tactically Hardee performed very well indeed. The movement from Duck River to Spring Hill was fast and with little straggling among the troops. Forrest’s sweep of Union patrols and pickets meant that Rosecrans hadn’t an inkling of the approaching threat. The tactical plan for the assault itself was excellent. Cleburne achieved a success in the centre beyond all expectations. Breckinridge quickly achieved his initial objectives as well. On the day Rosecrans was saved, not by his three on-hand corps commanders, but by three divisional commanders – Lovell Rousseau, Phil Sheridan and “Union” Jeff Davis. Once the Union troops had halted Hardee’s momentum it became a game of numbers and the Army of the Cumberland was always going to win a numbers game.​

Maguire - Yeah I thinks its important to focus on Rousseau here. This is where Rousseau makes his first big splash. Prior to Spring Hill he was really at bit of a footnote at Mount Vernon and at the Duck River. But in the words of some of his later political opponents Lovell Rousseau wrote his name large at Spring Hill "in the blood of his division". This battle and indeed the subsequent campaign were a significant launch pad for his return to Congress and his subsequent political career.​

Starke - Going back to Rosecrans my big problems are with his initial failure to entrench his camps in the first place and his failure to immediately pursue Hardee when he began to withdraw. Certainly there was disorganisation in XXI Corps but Thomas’ and Nelson’s corps were fit to pursue the retreating rebels immediately. That 24 hour delay is unforgivable. At that point the battle might have been accounted a draw had not Rosecrans eventually let Nelson off the leash.​

Yes let’s look at what happened next. As Hardee withdrew across the Duck River, Nelson was pleading with Rosecrans for a prompt pursuit of the rebels. Rosecrans gave the order: Nelson would lead with his two divisions, then Thomas, the largely recovered McCook would follow Thomas and finally Absalom Baird’s Division marching to join Nelson’s corps, which was expected hourly, was to bring up the rear. Crittenden claimed it would take at least two days to reorganise his formations.

Thomas however suggested he should follow Hardee closely but that Nelson and the others should swing wide and cross the Duck River at Williamsport. Rosecrans approved the plan. The next action would occur on 23 March 1863 as Nelson clashed with Forrest at Williamsport…"
 
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Oooh, on my birthday, 3/23. :)

You're covering three fields of battle with concise and detailed updates. I wish I knew a bit more about the war and the men involved so I could give you the proper accolades.
 
Chapter Forty-Four Hard Times for Hardee Part II
Chapter Fourty-Four

Hard Times for Hardee
Part II

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From Left to Right: Jones N. Keegan, C.M. Townsend, James F. Maguire and J.T. Starke

The Heartlands Campaign Discussion Group at the 38th Annual Civil War Conference at Louisiana State University hosted by Professor Douglas Lee Bannerman...

Forrest discovers the move by Nelson to cross at the now unguarded Williamsport Bridge. Forrest races to the scene. Holds the bridge for upwards of 24 hours but in the absence of any reinforcements has to withdraw and Rosecrans finally gets a bridgehead over the Duck River.

Starke - Forrest used his horsemen as a modern general would use motorized infantry. He liked horses because he liked fast movement, and his mounted men could get from here to there much faster than any infantry could; but when they reached the field they usually tied their horses to trees and fought on foot, and they were as good as the very best infantry. Not for nothing did Forrest say the essence of strategy was 'to git thar fust with the most men'. That was only partially the case at Williamsport. He certainly got there first but he was quickly outnumbered as Nelson brought up reinforcements.

Keegan - Nelson really falls down at Williamsport because there is no means by which Forrest could have held the bridge all day, with just his cavalry division, if Nelson had attacked with his full force or reconnoitred the surrounding area. I mean there were several nearby fords that he could have used to flank Forrest. Forrest is given credit for this masterful defense but in reality Williamsport is all about Nelson's inadequcies as a corps commander.

Townsend - In Jones worldview there are no good Confederate commanders, just bad Federal commanders who loose to the Rebels until a Kearny, Reynolds, Rodman or Hooker turns up. To admit there were good, and indeed great Confederate commanders, is not to sympathise with the motivations behind the Slaveholders Rebellion. Unlike Jones I am happy to say that Forrest's defence at Williamsport was masterful even if ultimately he had to abandon his positon.

Maguire - I understand the view that Forrest ultimately lost the battle while holding up the Union troops for a very useful day. It was nonetheless both a tactical and a strategic defeat. But Nelson didn't win the fight. Gordon Granger did. Its Granger that finally sends out the scouts that discover the fords that allow Whittaker's Brigade to cross and attack Forrest's left flank. Granger doesn't get enough credit for Williamsport. Yet its his victory, not Nelson's.

Starke - I heartily endorse James' view on Granger. Granger was three times the general William Nelson was.

Moving on Forrest's warning arrived with Hardee at Columbia by a delayed roundabout route. Hardee was expecting to be attacked by Rosecrans full force at Columbia. Thomas' Corps was certainly in front of him. But Forrest's warning said the bulk of the Union army was marching on Williamsport. Hardee choose to believe Forrest but it was too late. By the time Hardee had dispatched Cleburne and Breckinridge to his aid, Forrest was already withdrawing.

Nelson was already across the river and marching south for the crossroads at Mount Pleasant. From there he could turn east with the intention of getting into Hardee's rear at Columbia. Nelson was supported by McCook's Corps and Absalom Baird's Division. Cleburne would be waiting for him at Mount Pleasant with Breckinridge not far behind...
 
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Trailer for future updates:

  • Leopoldo McDonnell: The Confederacy & Spain (a further update on Foreign Affairs);
  • Emperor of Mexico: France in Mexico;
  • Robert E. Lee: The Gray Fox goes on the offensive;
  • Atlanta: De facto capitol of the Confederacy - the reorganisation of the Confederate Government.
 
Chapter Forty-Five Hard Times for Hardee Part III
Chapter Forty-Five

Hard Times for Hardee
Part III

The Heartlands Campaign Discussion Group at the 38th Annual Civil War Conference at Louisiana State University hosted by Professor Douglas Lee Bannerman...

So James we can't really talk about Mount Pleasant without starting with you as you are our resident Don Cleburne specialist. Or do you prefer Cleburne Pasha?

Maguire: Ha well I think good old original General Cleburne will do for me. Mount Pleasant is an example of Cleburne at his best. Cleburne picked the ground taking a northwest-southest line. One leg of a V really with Breckinridge to come up and form the other angle. It was rising forested ground. And of course Cleburne has gathered together and begun to train companies of sharpshooters. They would prove lethal at Mount Pleasant. In defense of good ground no one was a tenacious as Paddy Cleburne - in the Americas, Europe or Asia Minor.

Townsend: And indeed Mount Pleasant is where we see the worst of the Army of the Cumberland on display again. Rosecrans was always to quick on the advance to let his formations get strung out on the Tennessee roads. They were either at risk of being counterattacked and defeated in detail or of committing to an attack piecemeal. This time it was Bull Nelson in front, and although he had one good divisional commander in Granger and later Baird, Nelson never listened to reason when he could attack. One general who never learned a single lesson in the Civil War was Bull Nelson.

Keegan: There's no denying Bull Nelson's attacks were shambolic. A head on attack with Steedman's division first, before trying Granger's idea of flanking Cleburne to the west by Taylor's Store. A premature move with too few men that was easily blunted by Cleburne with Helm's Brigade. Then Baird comes up with his division and its another head-on attack on Cleburne which would have be a farce but for its tragic losses. Then to cap it all McCook comes up. Now some people say he hadn't recovered from that blow to the head. Thats about the best excuse I can see for him extending Nelson's left down past Cross Bridges Baptist Church. Nelson and McCook seem to have forgotten the rebel army to their left rear and acted like Cleburne was the whole Reb army. Richard Johnson's Division certainly hadn't recovered from Spring Hill so its hardly surprising how quickly that division folded when Breckinridge arrived in their rear. Once again its Sheridan that takes decisive action, refusing the right and enaging in some of the hardest fighting seen in Tennessee around Cross Bridges Church.

Starke: Cleburne performed very well. He read the ground well; He positioned his troops well; He responded to Granger's flanking threat promptly and decisively. Nelson turned in his usual disastrous performance. McCook tactically was poor. But from a morale point of view he was everywhere exhorting the troops. Not the right place for a Corps commander but not the worst. Sheridan acts decisively again to compensate for McCook's failures.

However we have avoided the one really controversial issue - Breckinridge's slow arrival on the field and the piecemeal commitment of his troops. Sheridan, as good as he was, should never have been allowed to stand and hold the flank at the Church as he did. Had Breckinridge committed the bulk of his force Sheridan would have been overwhelmed. Breckinridge failed to do so and acted like Bull Nelson.

The rumors of drinking and of his being drunk on the field at Mount Pleasant just will not die. Now whether its McCown's libel against a commander he feuded with or whether its President Jeff Davis' anti-Breckinridge stance after the so called Atlanta Cabinet Coup, it doesn't matter. Breckinridge's performance at Mount Pleasant was sub par.

Keegan: Drunk!

Townsend: Lies and a Bad Day. We all have them.

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The unimpressive Cross Bridges Church would become doubly hallowed ground to the men of Sheridan's Division

Well the bloody repulse of Nelson's troops could not undo the fact that the Union Army was across the Duck River in force. Thomas' clever side stepping of Hardee, at long last, meant that Rosecrans had 3 corps across the river and one on its way. Furthermore Hardee's troops were spread in a soft "U" shape with Thomas' corps poring into the hollow between Cheatham and Cleburne/Breckinridge. Hardee was quickly back on the retreat. This time Rosecrans did not pause. The Army of the Cumberland kept on the heels of the Army of Tennessee, keeping it off balance until Hardee turned at bay on some ground east of Pulaski. In the words Lovell Rousseau "the worst damn place for men to fight a battle I ever saw. A maze of ridges, gullys, woods and rocks. It was hell in there"...
 
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So James we can't really talk about Mount Pleasant without starting with you as you are our resident Don Cleburne specialist. Or do you prefer Cleburne Pasha?

Ha well I think good old original General Cleburne will do for me.

OMG! Paddy Cleburne - General of the Confederacy, Don Cleburne - Mexican or Spanish General, Cleburne Pasha - an Egyptian or Ottoman General!?

I must know more now!
 
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