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    James G. Randall's defense of George McClellan--any thoughts?

    ...quotes. Considering that OTL McClellan never operated south of the James, none of his moves in OTL prepared for such operations, his OTL moves *did* move towards Richmond directly, and he made no actual moves during the month after the 7 Days' in that direction......I would say the onus is...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson

    ...but by that point in the war starting every single campaign at the same time is absolutely not essential, granted that they happen at all (and they *would* all happen, Lincoln having been pushing all war for concerted action). Within a single theater, Grant and Sherman could have been...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson
    Threadmarks: Part 5: Not Vicksburg

    ...to breakout with as many men as possible. Meanwhile he would try to destroy Stanley’s force and fall upon Rosecrans from the rear, but Van Dorn *must* hold on for a little while. Van Dorn had his own scouts out and was aware of Rosecrans’ approach. He sent out a few regiments to delay the...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson
    Threadmarks: Part 4: The Heartland Campaign

    ...them was risky. Cavalry raids and partisans slowed all of Rosecrans’ efforts, but he was consolidating his position. The positions that Johnston *needed* to hold in the region – Memphis, Corinth, the railroad linking them, and the Tennessee river landings nearest Corinth – he already did...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson
    Threadmarks: Part 3: Slow Summer Moves

    ...other of Halleck’s subordinates did not blame him (rather blaming Confederate numbers and Buell not arriving in time in roughly equal measure), he *was* in overall command. Rather than face an irate public and a backbiting military high command, Lincoln placed Halleck on recuperative leave...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson

    Thanks for the support! I'm glad you are finding these TLs to your liking and level of detail. I will say that, as we go forward and things increasingly diverge from OTL, I may or may not keep up quite this level of detail. I mean, I'm certainly trying to track things like "okay, so if this...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson
    Threadmarks: Part 2: Shiloh

    ...Ohio, slow as it was, was at last nearing Halleck with his Army of the Mississippi. Time had run out. Even without Van Dorn, Johnston had to attack *now* or let the golden opportunity slip away. Any ambivalence at this decision was wipe away by the exuberance of second-in-command P.G.T...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson
    Threadmarks: Part 1.5: After Fort Donelson

    Part 1.5: After Fort Donelson Or: Gosh, the North really had a lot of generals who could organize, equip, and train an army, but not lead it. Amiright...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson

    Well, at the moment Patrick Cleburne is still in his OTL spot as a brigade commander in Braxton Bragg's forces along the Gulf Coast. But he'll be joining the action soon enough.
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson
    Threadmarks: Part 1: Fort Donelson

    Part 1: Fort Donelson Or: The case for and against Gideon Pillow being the best Union general in the entire war. U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U-C-U Timeline U: Midday, February 15...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson

    Thank you! I haven't really seen the concept either, and we'll see exactly for how long the parallelism remains. I have ideas but will bow to how the stories unfold to some extent. Fair point about Grant. I may change the wording, but I always took "mental cursing", especially of one's self...
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    2xTLIAW: Grant Killed at Fort Donelson
    Threadmarks: Introduction / PoD

    We all agree, by virtue of being on this site in the first place, that the study of alternate history is not only fun, but that usually ATLs exist for a reason. If we exclude neo-insert-dead-political-view-here TLs, what is left is mainly shining a light on OTL so it can be better understood...
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    A House Divided Against Itself: An 1860 Election Timeline

    Fair enough then. Those types of starting points can lead to far more diverse scenarios than sticking to a single PoD, and I do look forward to where you are going with this. A hundred times over yes, my (recently changed) username refers to Chickamauga and extends the homage to Thomas...
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    A House Divided Against Itself: An 1860 Election Timeline

    My apologies if I have missed this in the posts so far, but what exactly is the PoD for this TL? It has to be something well before the conventions themselves, such that Lincoln and Breckenridge (and possibly others) do not or cannot run.
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    Instead of launching Gettysburg Campaign, Lee relieves Vicksburg

    If any forces are sent west from Virginia in May-June, they will not be following Longstreet's OTL September route, but will rather follow the more direct rail line from southwest Virginia through Knoxville and on to Chattanooga. I don't know how the capacity of this line compares to the more...
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    John Bell Hood's Charge - A Chickamauga Civil War AU

    ...it becomes utterly implausible. I have to comment on the scenario as described. Ironically the one part that I think could be made to go even *more* in the Confederacy's favor is the actual battle of Chickamauga (this was discussed in a thread 8 years ago...
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    Plausibility Check of Timeline-191 (aka Southern Victory)

    ...the first half of my last post, so picking up from there: What History Learner is ignoring is that our entire exchange is concerning a point of *Alternate* History. Specifically we have already agreed (finally) on the PoD, and furthermore agreed that an immediate butterfly of the PoD is...
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    Plausibility Check of Timeline-191 (aka Southern Victory)

    And as I have exhaustively cited in reply, if Lee strikes as he planned on the evening of the 18th / day on the 19th, he is launching a frontal attack against at minimum Reno's Union infantry divisions and, considering the most likely butterflies of the PoD needed to get Lee's attack happening...
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    Plausibility Check of Timeline-191 (aka Southern Victory)

    ...The Rebels were very lucky that OTL went as good for them as it did, once battle was joined (they were justifiable in getting as far as they did *strategically* due to Buell's over-caution, but they were never about to win any stand-up battles). Considering that Bragg had practically settled...
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    Plausibility Check of Timeline-191 (aka Southern Victory)

    ...starting PoD - Good, we are all in agreement. You, me, and Hennessy all agree that Lee's initial plan for an attack on the morning of the 18th *was* going be delayed no matter what (due to Anderson's late arrival and provisioning necessities), and that the proposed PoD is Fitzhugh's earlier...
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