And how do you explain the fact the the coup did actually work until word got out Hitler survived, that even actual Nazis followed the plotter´s orders until Hitler countermanded them?
Because for a short time confusion over just what was happening in Berlin give everyone pause. Still even if Hitler had died once it becomes clear the plotters were trying to seize power and they in fact had likely assessnated the Fuhrer, they were doomed.
WTF? The Hitlerjugend and LSSAH divisions were being cut into pieces in Normandy!
My point was that they and Waffen-SS combat troops wouldnt be disarmed without a fight the way desk-bound SS men in a cushy Paris office did.
Maybe you could tell us what combat troops the SS had in or near Berlin?
I dont think the SS had any serious combat formations in or near Berlin at the time, nor would it need to. The army by 1944 was as much a Nazi creature as the SS itself. Which was my main point actully.
Hardly! In 1918 Germany had just defeated Romania and Russia and made big gains in the west. In mid-1944 Germany had been defeated in the east, south, west, the air and the Atlantic again and again for well over a year.
In 1941 The Red Army had been pushed to the outskirts of Moscow and any reasonable person at the time might've throght the Sviets were doomed. The Nazis were very good at keeping up the German will to resist and their propaganda stressed that things while difficult weren’t entirely hopeless, making use of historical examples liker Fredrick the Greats 11 hour escape from utter defeat due to a split in the allied forces facing him. Also reason & logic had little to do with German thinking at the time, they thought they could still win, they throght Hitler had an ace up his sleeve, thats what mattered.