The Iron Eagle II - Days of Strife

[Kaiser of Brazil]

Will we see more of mainland Europe like Portugal,Romania etc,even if not in detail it will be nice to have at the least a basic description of other European nations. In a more sumber affair will we see Germany demographics and the way the surviving slavs in germany are devided in made up groups. and generally how they live.

And of course what will be Egypt fate after Nasser is removed,most probably will become a puppet of Germany, and speaking of Islam , what are the chances that the muslim nations outside Germania influence start to push for more cooperation with the Coalition or the Platine pact. For all the claims of Israel being the enemy, is the Linz states that had done more damage to the islam in general.

I am considering some brief mentions in an epilogue, but overall there won't be further European chapters in this Volume.

I hope to go on that in the next Volume.

And I don't think the best friend of Islamic nations would be the Catholic Fundamentalists.

 

[Cooler]

Hopefully the Germans won't be too happy after this. They chose this bloody hell. They should suffer along with the rest of the world. For example, hoping that the germ weapons that the Germans released on the Slavic people in the occupied territories would mutate so that the vaccines they inoculated would not protect against, causing the epidemic to spread throughout Europe, especially in Germany. More Germans dying is a good thing.

 

[Kaiser of Brazil]

Hopefully the Germans won't be too happy after this. They chose this bloody hell. They should suffer along with the rest of the world. For example, hoping that the germ weapons that the Germans released on the Slavic people in the occupied territories would mutate so that the vaccines they inoculated would not protect against, causing the epidemic to spread throughout Europe, especially in Germany. More Germans dying is a good thing.

Goebbels already got around 2 million Germans and even more died in the Ostkrieg. Also, wishing even more pain and misery in the world isn't generally a good thing.

 

[Cooler]

Talking about the end of the world Is every country prepared in the event of WW3? What approaches does each country have, especially in the post-nuclear world? For example, building large bunkers in every city that, in addition to being able to hold a large number of people, would also have underground factories to produce everything needed to continue life in the post-war world, including food. utensils and weapons. This method should be suitable for Russia. Image of Russian soldiers facing German soldiers. After leaving the bunker

 

[Kaiser of Brazil]

Talking about the end of the world Is every country prepared in the event of WW3? What approaches does each country have, especially in the post-nuclear world? For example, building large bunkers in every city that, in addition to being able to hold a large number of people, would also have underground factories to produce everything needed to continue life in the post-war world, including food. utensils and weapons. This method should be suitable for Russia. Image of Russian soldiers facing German soldiers. After leaving the bunker

The Russians have been preparing for a Nuclear War from the moment the Germans tested their first bomb in 1951, German leaders since Hitler have been preparing the German population and cities for a Nuclear War, that just ramping up under Goebbels as he did deliberately plan for a Nuclear War. Britain also is a country that has been preparing itself for a war for a while, they would receive the full force of a German Nuclear bombardment. Israel has included a Nuclear Bunker into the plans for every Kibbutzim or City. The US also expects a potential Nuclear strike in the Eastern Seaboard and there are fears over the German rocket program since the Nazis got a satellite in Space.

In General terms, Europe is much more on the edge and up until this moment at least three major powers have considered a Nuclear War as a real imminent possibility. I would say the US West Coast is less prepared as the main target of German bombs would be the East Coast of the United States.

 

[Winterwolf1]

Hopefully the Germans won't be too happy after this. They chose this bloody hell. They should suffer along with the rest of the world. For example, hoping that the germ weapons that the Germans released on the Slavic people in the occupied territories would mutate so that the vaccines they inoculated would not protect against, causing the epidemic to spread throughout Europe, especially in Germany. More Germans dying is a good thing.

A epedemic doesnt know borders, if it would Mutter so much that even german medizine, which was in otl at the hight of the World, now experienced through cruel experience on the kz prisoners and subhumans, what do you think would stop the Epidemic to evolve even more deadly and become a modern black death( not to mention the black death in easteurope in this timeline) or a variant of the smallpox epidemic? And even if the epedemic is limited to europe, who do you think will die the most, vaccinated germans or unvaccinated polish, ukrainish, baltischen, russish people etc... you would give the germans an even greater present than the dead numbers of easteuropeans mentioned in the last capitel. And i dont know if there will be still non german people left in eastern europe west of the Wolga. With docents of millions dead under hess and hitler, additional millions under goebbels(who has ironicly killed more germans than hess and hitler combined), around 20 to 25 million additional after and while the uralkrieg, millions dying because of the Black death in europe, combined with the refugues to around 40 million...,fucking hell, are there even people left?

 

[Kaiser of Brazil]

A epedemic doesnt know borders, if it would Mutter so much that even german medizine, which was in otl at the hight of the World, now experienced through cruel experience on the kz prisoners and subhumans, what do you think would stop the Epidemic to evolve even more deadly and become a modern black death( not to mention the black death in easteurope in this timeline) or a variant of the smallpox epidemic? And even if the epedemic is limited to europe, who do you think will die the most, vaccinated germans or unvaccinated polish, ukrainish, baltischen, russish people etc... you would give the germans an even greater present than the dead numbers of easteuropeans mentioned in the last capitel. And i dont know if there will be still non german people left in eastern europe west of the Wolga. With docents of millions dead under hess and hitler, additional millions under goebbels(who has ironicly killed more germans than hess and hitler combined), around 20 to 25 million additional after and while the uralkrieg, millions dying because of the Black death in europe, around 35 to 40 million ( i count the refugues to that), ...,fucking hell, are there even people left?

On the bright side, 15 million of the Eastern European "losses" in the Ostkrieg were escaped slavs who joined the Russians and now live new lives in the East. The Russians ironically have a larger population now than they did before one of their deathliest conflicts.

There is also that millions of others between 1943 and 1968 were people who were either deported or fled across the Volga into the Russian Empire.

 

[Cooler]

Goebbels already got around 2 million Germans and even more died in the Ostkrieg. Also, wishing even more pain and misery in the world isn't generally a good thing.

You wrote the story so well that I was so enthralled and engrossed in the story that I let out nonsensical thoughts. Sorry that this sounds rude. Will definitely follow the story until the end.

 

[Kaiser of Brazil]

You wrote the story so well that I was so enthralled and engrossed in the story that I let out nonsensical thoughts. Sorry that this sounds rude. Will definitely follow the story until the end.

Well, glad to know people hate the Nazis, writing how the people who created this system all had gruesome ends was quite cathartic (ironically most of them were destroyed by the political system they created, like Himmler, Bormann...).

I wouldn't exactly lump all the German people into one political ideology, even if resistance to Nazism is pretty much dead in Germany, that would be falling for the kind of trick Goebbels wanted in this world by doing the Angriff: Making German a synonym of National Socialism.

 

[xrom]

On the bright side, 15 million of the Eastern European "losses" in the Ostkrieg were escaped slavs who joined the Russians and now live new lives in the East. The Russians ironically have a larger population now than they did before one of their deathliest conflicts.

There is also that millions of others between 1943 and 1968 were people who were either deported or fled across the Volga into the Russian Empire.

So the Russians have the same population as the Germans, post-war we might see a population boom in both nations. I would find it highly amusing if Russia succeeds in keeping population parity and natalism on par with the Germans if only for a time.

 

[Kaiser of Brazil]

So the Russians have the same population as the Germans, post-war we might see a population boom in both nations. I would find it highly amusing if Russia succeeds in keeping population parity and natalism on par with the Germans if only for a time.

I wouldn't say the same population, it all boils down to what each country considers as a citizen... or as a "human".

 

[xrom]

I wouldn't say the same population, it all boils down to what each country considers as a citizen... or as a "human".

I mean as in Aryan Germans, I don't take the slavs into consideration when it comes to Germany.

 

[Winterwolf1]

On the bright side, 15 million of the Eastern European "losses" in the Ostkrieg were escaped slavs who joined the Russians and now live new lives in the East. The Russians ironically have a larger population now than they did before one of their deathliest conflicts.

There is also that millions of others between 1943 and 1968 were people who were either deported or fled across the Volga into the Russian Empire.

Atleast a little light...

 

[GrimmJow007]

So the Russians have the same population as the Germans, post-war we might see a population boom in both nations. I would find it highly amusing if Russia succeeds in keeping population parity and natalism on par with the Germans if only for a time.

Ironically we would see Europe and Russia with high birth rates, while the rest of the world would see a decline in fertility in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
Perhaps Europe will once again have more than 1/4 of the world's population, as it was before the First World War.

 

[Kaiser of Brazil]

Ironically we would see Europe and Russia with high birth rates, while the rest of the world would see a decline in fertility in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
Perhaps Europe will once again have more than 1/4 of the world's population, as it was before the First World War.

I will dare say that Catholic nations, due to the Integralist influence in the Papacy and higher religiosity overall with Europe assaulting Christianity, will also experience more of a baby boom.

As for America? Perhaps not as much but I can see a higher population from European refugees and if Smith is successful in his "Moral Crusade" during his Presidency.

 

[mcginnis2002]

I wonder how many children Klara and Ernst might have.

 

[mcginnis2002]

I will dare say that Catholic nations, due to the Integralist influence in the Papacy and higher religiosity overall with Europe assaulting Christianity, will also experience more of a baby boom.

As for America? Perhaps not as much but I can see a higher population from European refugees and if Smith is successful in his "Moral Crusade" during his Presidency.

I feel like Brazil might have twice the population it has OTL. 500 million by 2023. What do you think?

 

[GrimmJow007]

I feel like Brazil might have twice the population it has OTL. 500 million by 2023. What do you think?

500 million is very unlikely. Probably between 250 and 350 million, I think.

 

[Aluma]

I also think its unlikely
We should be having over a billion by now!

 

[Gabingston]

So the Russians have the same population as the Germans, post-war we might see a population boom in both nations. I would find it highly amusing if Russia succeeds in keeping population parity and natalism on par with the Germans if only for a time.

I think Russia will have a high birth rate both for defense against the Germans and to eventually reconquer and repopulate the west. I'd also expect Russia to become a fanatically religious country in the decades after the loss of the west and their civil war, as their misfortune could very well be seen as a punishment from God for the atheistic communism of the Soviet era. Expect many a comparison to Exodus and the Babylonian Exile (and Jericho in the event of a reconquest of the motherland).