Presidents of the Confederate States

EnglishCanuck · Mar 31, 2015

Maybe in 1886 Wade Hampton III? After him perhaps someone like Augustus Longstreet or William Ellerbe?

AdmiralBlake · Mar 31, 2015

EnglishCanuck said:
Maybe in 1886 Wade Hampton III? After him perhaps someone like Augustus Longstreet or William Ellerbe?

yh, wade Hampton would make sense

Augustus longstreet died in 1870

Turquoise Blue · Mar 31, 2015

Joseph C. S. Blackburn is often a good choice for President.

AdmiralBlake · Mar 31, 2015

Turquoise Blue said:
Joseph C. S. Blackburn is often a good choice for President.

yh Blackburn does keep coming up, but im struggling to find any real info about the man

EnglishCanuck · Mar 31, 2015

AdmiralBlake said:
yh, wade Hampton would make sense

Augustus longstreet died in 1870

I meant like the son of James Longstreet (who true died from scarlett fever OTL in 1862, but with alternate history he could live longer).

AdmiralBlake · Mar 31, 2015

EnglishCanuck said:
I meant like the son of James Longstreet (who true died from scarlett fever OTL in 1862, but with alternate history he could live longer).

ahh ok

its a possibility I suppose

EnglishCanuck · Mar 31, 2015

AdmiralBlake said:
ahh ok

its a possibility I suppose

Remember, in alternate history you can always kill/save someone from death as convenient

AdmiralBlake · Mar 31, 2015

EnglishCanuck said:
Remember, in alternate history you can always kill/save someone from death as convenient

I know, and I could always make people up too, but I hate doing that

AdmiralBlake · Apr 2, 2015

anyone have any ideas about candidates for 1873?

AdmiralBlake · Apr 3, 2015

bumping bump

ennobee · Apr 8, 2015

AdmiralBlake said:
trouble is both the US and CS political systems are built in such a way to make long term multi-party politics near impossible

Yes, but in the North, we had the Republican party starting from scratch and after a couple of years pushing the (northern) Whigs into annihilation. Any chance something like this could happen in the south too? There still will be only two parties -at the same time- but over time they might not be the same two.

AdmiralBlake · Apr 9, 2015

ennobee said:
Yes, but in the North, we had the Republican party starting from scratch and after a couple of years pushing the (northern) Whigs into annihilation. Any chance something like this could happen in the south too? There still will be only two parties -at the same time- but over time they might not be the same two.

oh yes, something like that is possible
what I meant is the system cant sustain three or more parties at the same time for anything beyond the odd election (otl Perot in 92, Wallace 68, Roosevelt 12, Weaver 92)

Wendell · Apr 10, 2015

Could the CSA experience electoral fusion though? Certainly several southern states did in the reconstruction period in our timeline.

AdmiralBlake · Apr 11, 2015

Wendell said:
Could the CSA experience electoral fusion though? Certainly several southern states did in the reconstruction period in our timeline.

its possible I suppose, but I still don't think that likely, the CS constitution was rly built to cater for a simple two party system, just like the US one

I suppose there might be some kind of confederate DFL representation in congress, that's plausible

The Uchronian · Apr 12, 2015

AdmiralBlake said:
its possible I suppose, but I still don't think that likely, the CS constitution was rly built to cater for a simple two party system, just like the US one

I suppose there might be some kind of confederate DFL representation in congress, that's plausible

Maybe, but would there even *be* a successful DFL equivalent in the C.S.A.? I mean, it could be tried, but they might have a hard time taking off, especially if slavery is still around.

Reggie Bartlett · Apr 12, 2015

CaliBoy1990 said:
Maybe, but would there even *be* a successful DFL equivalent in the C.S.A.? I mean, it could be tried, but they might have a hard time taking off, especially if slavery is still around.

Hmm, a Huey Long-like or George Wallace-like populist party.

Doable I think.

AdmiralBlake · Apr 12, 2015

Reggie Bartlett said:
Hmm, a Huey Long-like or George Wallace-like populist party.

Doable I think.

I suppose, but I wont say anything because ive already decided whats happening to them, and I wont give it away, because I do want to do a full timeline on this one day.

Wendell · Apr 12, 2015

AdmiralBlake said:
its possible I suppose, but I still don't think that likely, the CS constitution was rly built to cater for a simple two party system, just like the US one

I suppose there might be some kind of confederate DFL representation in congress, that's plausible

But given the states' rights orientation, I'd expect at minimum the prospect for distinct state parties which may coalesce around shared presidential tickets.

AdmiralBlake · Apr 13, 2015

Wendell said:
But given the states' rights orientation, I'd expect at minimum the prospect for distinct state parties which may coalesce around shared presidential tickets.

I like this idea, but it would make congressional caucuses a nightmare

Wendell · Apr 18, 2015

AdmiralBlake said:
I like this idea, but it would make congressional caucuses a nightmare

True, but there are presidential systems where there are effectively legislative coalitions I think. Alaska has even had a situation in which one caucus consisted of Republicans and Democrats while the other consisted solely of the remaining Republicans.