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What kind of physical infrastructure keeps humans from pulling the plug on them?
The fact that pulling the pulling the plug would destroy the internet and most digital infrastructure that the global economy relies on, and the fact that they are responsible for massive jumps in the fields of science, which would be lost almost entirely if humans shut off every cluster.

Not to mention that they purportedly have the capability to hijack nukes. No one wants to figure out the extent of the destruction beings this intelligent could bring.
 
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The fact that pulling the pulling the plug would destroy the internet and most digital infrastructure that the global economy relies on, and the fact that they are responsible for massive jumps in the fields of science, which would be lost almost entirely if humans shut off every cluster.
Just because it's destructive doesn't mean it wouldn't be done. Never underestimate humanity's ability to unify in the face of a crisis. I can image the Americans, the Chinese and most world powers getting together and establishing a "Global Digital Reset Treaty", especially since they are a threat to state power.
 
Xing, Cai, Guang, and Yong would work better as the surnames of the rulers running those regimes; but their official names would be in accordance into the official Chinese dynastic cycle (aka, an upgraded Chinese noble title). Try a map of the old Warring States era, and start trying to pull off dynasty names from states in their rough areas (for example, the Yong state might instead be called Shu because previous states in the region were called Shu), or make up peasant leaders and just name the territory they controlled after their warlords' full name (as in, Fang Guozhen's state) , since at that point they haven't gotten enough prestige to have actual dynastic names

P.S. although I will note that during the Yuan-Ming transition, Ming Yuzhen controlled the area that is traditionally Shu and called it Xia
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this good?

I gave the grey state in the north an actual dynastic name because I think its large/successful enough
 
chinese dynasties stopped using geography based names starting with the yuan

Didn't stop the rebels from doing so

During the Yuan-Ming transition there were guys calling themselves Han, Xia, Zhou and even Zhu Yuanzhang himself called his state "Wu" before going for Ming
There's not really any hard and fast rules regarding naming, but generally, Chinese dynasties don't name states after themselves. Usually, it's named after a geographic area, a previous dynasty or an auspicious title. Dynasties such as the Jurchen Jin, Yuan, Ming and Qing (who also initially named themselves Jin, being direct descendants of the Jurchens) fall into the latter category. Hell, Wang Mang's shortlived Xin Dynasty (which briefly usurped the Han Dynasty before they regained control) literally means 'new dynasty'.
 
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Sorry for replying so late, but this is a very interesting scenario!

Do you have any ideas as to whether the Eranian Federation would spread their ideology in the face of a Great War, and what their eastern borders look like? I'm interested in making a large map of Distributionist Eran, partly because I find the idea of a MENA state becoming the progenitor of radical leftism, and partly because the scenario has a lot of potential.
 
Just because it's destructive doesn't mean it wouldn't be done. Never underestimate humanity's ability to unify in the face of a crisis. I can image the Americans, the Chinese and most world powers getting together and establishing a "Global Digital Reset Treaty", especially since they are a threat to state power.

yeah, probably the AGI revolt will end this way:
AGI: if you strike us down, your economy will collapse, your infrastructure collapse, you will lose the bulk of your scientific capacity
Humanity: ehy have you look at the state of the world and our history?
AGI: Oh s..t we are f...d up isn't?
Humanity: goodbye and good riddance
 
1925: Europe in Flames

Part II of my CP victory series.

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Try and guess the factions in France and the UK.
Also, I forgot to color Hungary. Dammit.
 
Principality of Elba: Napoleon's Last Stand by by u/Alagremm
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Upon Napoleon Bonaparte’s abdication following the War of the Sixth Coalition in 1814, the island of Elba was chosen to be "an independent principality possessed by him in complete sovereignty and as personal property". His rule was to persist until his death, at which point control of the Principality would return to the Grand Duchy of Tuscany. As Sovereign of Elba, Napoleon went about modernizing the island by carrying out a series of economic and social reforms – but on 26 February 1815, after ruling Elba for nearly 10 months, Napoleon escaped from the island and landed in southern France to retake power, beginning the War of the Seventh Coalition. After his defeat at the Battle of Waterloo, Britain intended to transport Napoleon to the island of St Helena - however, the other powers of the Congress of Vienna were weary of leaving Napoleon beyond their reach in the hands of the British Empire, and the continental powers strongly petitioned for the former emperor to be interned on Elba once again, under heavy guard of the coalition’s forces. While joined by a great number of Grande Armée veterans and allowed a personal army and navy for the Principality, Napoleon’s compliance was ensured by the detainment of his shortly reigned infant son Napoleon II in the Austrian Empire.

While the Coalition only granted the Principality of Elba to Napoleon I as a lifelong possession, the Grand Duchy of Tuscany chose to cede the island to Napoleon and his heirs in perpetuity in 1820, hoping to win his favors and the good will of the House of Bonaparte were they to return to ruling France. However, destiny willed for Napoleon Bonaparte to lay to rest peacefully in 1822, leaving the principality’s throne vacant for the heir – but Napoleon II was never allowed to return to the island and died in Austrian military service in 1832. While several family members have gone into exile on Elba, the throne was finally taken by Napoléon-Louis Bonaparte, the shortly reigned Louis II of the Kingdom of Holland and son of Napoleon I’s brother Louis I. His ascension to the throne followed his political involvement with the Carbonari together with his younger brother Louis-Napoléon, battling Austria’s dominance over Northern Italy, and after the brothers daring escape from Papal and Austrian authorities. But while Napoléon-Louis wished for his brother to stay by his side, he chose to travel to France instead. Self-titled Napoléon-Louis II then engaged in a liberal reign that greatly advanced the welfare of the tiny Napoleonic nation, developing the island’s rich iron mines and ports. His son Napoléon-Louis III inherited the throne in 1846, continuing his father’s policies and maintaining a strict policy of neutrality.

Following the 1848 Revolution and birth of the Second French Republic, Louis-Napoléon quickly rose to power in the first elections, becoming Prince-President and dictator. He turned to his nephew Louis III to pass the imperial line to him but met with a staunch refusal of the young monarch who held the senior position in the line of Napoleon I’s heirs and demanded to be made emperor himself. In 1852, two decades after his older brother’s coronation, Louis-Napoléon assumed the throne of France as Napoleon III, disregarding Napoleon-Louis III’s title and for the rest of his rule referring to him as nothing other than ‘Prince of Elba’. However, upon Napoleon III’s surrender in the disastrous Franco-Prussian War in 1870, he still sought to be accepted in the Principality of Elba, before being refused by his nephew Louis III and dying in London in 1873.

Thanks to this petty squabble Elba managed to retain its independence and survived Italy’s reunification – and the latter has greatly improved the principality’s welfare, as the exploitation of Elba’s iron deposits aided in newly-unified Italy’s industrialization efforts. However, the establishment of the Fascist regime in Italy brought a new and troubled era to the principality’s history, putting House of Bonaparte’s neutrality to the test. By 1932 Benito Mussolini pressured Prince Napoleon IV into accepting domestic rule by the Elban Fascist Party and the principality’s position as an Italian client state. Following the breakout of the Second World War and the Battle for France, Mussolini seriously considered the possibility of installing Napoleon IV as the head of the Third French Empire – a fascist state fashioned after the Kingdom of Italy, to be part of Mussolini’s Italian Empire. Fascist agents engaged Action Française, a monarchist movement that achieved a great degree of influence in Philippe Petaine’s France – but the proposal met with Adolf Hitler’s heavy disdain, the idea of re-creating a French Empire that had humiliated the German nation and dared challenge Prussian dominion irreconcilable with Nazi plans for Europe. Despite Hitler’s opposition, Mussolini went ahead with preparing the proposal to Vichy France – but the final nail in the coffin came from Napoleon IV himself, who declared his opposition to accepting stewardship over a divided and occupied nation, doubling down on Elban neutrality. He was kept under house arrest in Sans-Souci Palace by Italian and later German forces until 1944, when the French 1er Corps d'Armée liberated the island to the great jubilation of Elbans - this became the first time that French forces were stationed on Elba since the abdication of Napoleon Bonaparte himself.

While the French forces were quick to arrest Napoleon IV as a collaborator, Allied investigation soon provided the prince with a full pardon and recognition for his refusal to take part in the occupation of France. Regardless, Free French government was intent on unifying the island with France, resulting in a referendum on the future state of Elba: Elbans chose to preserve Elba’s sovereignty and Bonapartist rule, albeit under a constitutional monarchy. Nevertheless, France remained a close associate and ally of the principality, finally ending over a century of animosity between the two nations. The Principality of Elba remains closely connected to Paris, adopting the euro along with France and Italy and remaining a popular destination for European tourists – as well as a glimmer of hope for those in France still dreaming of imperial splendor.
 
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Dominion of Rhode Island: The Judas Colony by u/Alagremm
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The Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations was among the earliest British colonies in North America and despite its small size an economic powerhouse in trade and industry. The port cities of Providence and Newport were major centers for Atlantic triangular slave trade in New England and a source of great wealth for the United Kingdom. But the exploitation of Americans by Britain drove Rhode Island to be the first of the Thirteen Colonies to renounce its allegiance to the British Crown on May 4, 1776, leading to a military response from the British and hastily assembled Loyalist forces. British forces retook Newport in December 1776 and held it against combined Franco-American force which attempted to drive them off Rhode Island, otherwise known as Aquidneck Island. As the tide of war turned against Britain, Loyalist forces retreated to a few key strongholds- including Aquidneck Island.

By a cruel twist of fate, it was William Franklin, the son of renowned Benjamin Franklin, who became the leader of Loyalist forces and a proud advocate of British rule in the colonies. Despite years of imprisonment by the Yankees and his son joining his grandfather’s side in the revolutionary struggle, William Franklin’s leadership skills and diplomatic ability made him a shining figure among Loyalists and the first governor of Rhode Island appointed after the loss of the American mainland to revolutionary forces. Although William Franklin and his father remained estranged for the rest of their lives, his son William Temple Franklin later joined him in Rhode Island after becoming disillusioned with the factionalism of the newly established United States. Despite its descent from one of the Founding Fathers, the Franklin family remained a major force in Rhode Island’s politics and produced several governors and diplomats who defended the colony’s interests against the nation their ancestor helped create.

The Treaty of Paris signed after the end of the war stipulated an end for military conflict between the United States and United Kingdom by recognizing the independence of the Thirteen Colonies – but failed to recognize the continued division of the colony of Rhode Island, leaving the British-controlled Aquidneck Island a disputed territory. William Franklin, while fiercely loyal to the Crown, managed to secure a degree of autonomy for the colony and engaged in frugal efforts to ensure the security and prosperity of the last remaining shred of New England. With a wealthy port by its side, the State of Providence Plantations and Rhode Island was reluctant to join the United States, with many of the state’s residents interested in maintaining their hard-fought independence from central government – and as it had independent wealth and trade coming through the vibrant port of Providence, it was the only small state that could theoretically survive independent of the proposed federal union in 1787. It was therefore last of the Thirteen Colonies to ratify the United States Constitution in 1790, and only after being confronted with the prospect of the greater financial impositions it would suffer being treated as a foreign country, leaving Rhode Island surrounded by the United States and in great peril. During the War of 1812 Rhode Island found itself expectedly blockaded by the American military but remained impenetrable to enemy forces thanks to the extensive series of military fortifications and the diplomatic talents of the Franklin family. Rhode Islanders bravely prevailed throughout the merciless blockade up until the end of the war and the following Treaty of Ghent, with the reward for their perseverance being the official recognition of Rhode Island as a British territory by the United States – and with territorial dispute finally settled, the name of the neighboring U.S. state was officially changed to the State of Providence.

Despite the recognition by Washington and its advantageous position, Rhode Island’s wealth was hard hit by the abolition of slavery by the British Empire in 1833, three decades before the issue tore its neighbor apart. Although the winds of industrialization reached Rhode Island, it could not match the levels of industrial advancement in Providence or New York, leading to the island’s slow decline – until the Prohibition became law in the United States in 1920. Breweries sprung up on every corner, people sung praise to gin and rum, and kids gathered wide-eyed on the streets to listen to bootleggers’ wild exploits and tall tales; the very name “Rhode Island” became eponymous with contraband spirits, the name uttered with gratitude in countless speakeasies across the great nation. The United States government attempted time and time again to institute harsh measures against Rhode Island but could not declare an embargo due to the inevitable damage it would do to US-British relations. However, Rhode Island’s spirit industry declined just as quickly as it first expanded once the Prohibition was repealed in 1933, smack in the middle of the Great Depression; Rhode Island’s economy sank, leaving Rhode Islanders destitute and the Dominion government utterly insolvent. Along with the Dominion of Newfoundland, Rhode Island gave up self-rule in 1934, submitting to direct rule from London until it could once more reach self-sufficiency.

Relations between Rhode Island and the United States remained tense even after the end of the Prohibition, with some of the legal restrictions remaining up until the Second World War, when the tiny nation became a major element of the Allied supply line and a key foreign post for the Royal Navy. Enormous economic investment from the United States and a spirit of unity made the United States and Rhode Island come closer than they have since the Revolution. After the end of the war, as the status of Rhode Island was once more being discussed by the British government, a popular movement for admission to the United States has won the support of up to half of the population, bolstered by the unprecedented cooperation and fraternity between Rhode Island and the United States. However, despite the idea’s popularity on both sides of the border, popular support for unification quickly fell once it became clear that Rhode Island would not be admitted as a state, but rather be unified with the State of Providence. With public Americanism quickly fizzling out, Rhode Islanders were put before the same choice as the people of Newfoundland – joining Canada or becoming independent. Unlike Newfoundlanders, Rhode Islanders had little in common with Canada, embracing their New English identity and pursuing independence as the Dominion of Rhode Island.

The proud New England banner that once fluttered over British colonies has once more become a symbol for the denizens of Rhode Island in 1965, chosen both for its historical value and due to its matching colors to what soon became Canada’s national flag. Nowadays the proud red banner is widely recognized as a symbol of the Thirteenth Colony – a glimpse of what the United States could have been.

(Let me know If this one and the previous post were already posted)
 
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Do Not Waver, 1910 at the eve of the "Fool's War" and the Dark Age following it, which would funnel hell onto the earth.

(the Fool's War is this TL's World War One. It's called the Fool's war due to a resurgence of nihilist philosophy and brash and foolish decisions made by leaders of nations, bringing neutral nations into the war, initiating gruesome battles, and more.)

This does NOT associate to my actual beliefs and what I believe in. This timeline is directly made to make everything starting in the 1900s a living hell, similarly to "For All Time." Once again, I am not a genocidal maniac or a psychopath. thank you.
 
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Do Not Waver, 1910 at the eve of the "Fool's War" and the Dark Age following it, which would funnel hell onto the earth.

(the Fool's War is this TL's World War One. It's called the Fool's war due to a resurgence of nihilist philosophy and brash and foolish decisions made by leaders of nations, bringing neutral nations into the war, initiating gruesome battles, and more.)

This does NOT associate to my actual beliefs and what I believe in. This timeline is directly made to make everything starting in the 1900s a living hell, similarly to "For All Time." Once again, I am not a genocidal maniac or a psychopath. thank you.
Now, THAT gives me some powerful Mad-Maxey vibes
 
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