Crisis in the Kremlin - Our 1982 USSR

If I were ever to make 2nd timeline, which one would you be most interested in?

  • 1. German Empire 1888

    Votes: 62 29.2%
  • 2. Russian Federation 1993

    Votes: 74 34.9%
  • 3. Red China 1949

    Votes: 37 17.5%
  • 4. Yugoslavia 1920

    Votes: 27 12.7%
  • 5. India 1947

    Votes: 28 13.2%
  • 6. alt-fascist Italy 1922

    Votes: 29 13.7%
  • 7. South Africa 1994

    Votes: 18 8.5%
  • 8. Germany 1990

    Votes: 20 9.4%
  • 9. Japan 2000

    Votes: 18 8.5%
  • 10. United Kingdom 1997

    Votes: 20 9.4%

  • Total voters
    212
  • Poll closed .
I support Altlov suggestions. My Additions are in Bold.

1. B) No, we should not make any special provisions for any group on the basis of religion, doing so would be morally wrong. And more importantly what good would it do? This would only provide a path for dissidents to the west where they can be paid off to denigrate our socialist system. We should keep these dissidents at home where we can monitor them, of course later should we relax our emigration policy they may leave. Strengthen our line of anti-zionism.
2. Demand an apology from the Americans.
3. I do not feel well-versed enough in our space affairs to answer this question, i also do not feel space should be a priority of our government. I will wait for the opinions of my fellow comrades to make a judgement.
4.
- Propose a reduced joint Sino-Soviet mission in Afghanistan
- Drastically reduce our military presence in Mongolia
- Try and negotiate on the subject of our intervention in Cambodia. Attempt to convince the Chinese the need for a stable socialist government in Cambodia and for the eradication of the extremist Khmer Rouge.
- Speak out against the illegitimate Taiwanese government and push for the early return of Hong Kong, defend Chinese territorial integrity
- Offer military and economic aid to China
- Recognize the Chinese path to socialism and Deng's reforms, whilst maintaining that they are not right for the USSR.
5.
- Introduce conscription for women
-Legalize abortion, make sure adequate birth control and sex education are taught in Secondary Schools.
- Start an anti-traditionalism campaign
- Promote the works of Alexandra Kollontai, make her works mandatory reading in schools
- Set quotas for women in certain roles dominated by men, although keep these quotas very small still, 5% at most.
- Create a commission of prominent women to address the issue of sexism within the USSR
- Decriminalize homosexuality
-Provide Paid Leave for both Mothers and Fathers up to one year for new born children
6.
Focus the next five-year plan on the expansion of the computer industry, but also the creation of a large consumer goods manufacturing sector, to not only satisfy domestic demand but also to provide cheap goods for foreign nations to secure a new stream of hard currency.
 
1. Should be the Soviet Jews allowed by the government to emigrate from the USSR?
Honestly I wouldn't mind allowing emigration for the Jews but I'd rather do at a very slow pace so we don't decrease our relationships with our Arab friends...

Same answers for 2-5.
 
1. Should be the Soviet Jews allowed by the government to emigrate from the USSR?
A) Yes, it's high time to solve this topic once and for all;
B) No, this won't be in our interest.

2. Please write down how should the USSR respond to the Black Sea incident and violation of Soviet territorial waters by the US Navy?

3. Following the success of the Mir space stations, the Soviet government had allocated additional funds to the Soviet space program. Please write down to which new/old projects the additional funds may be allocated?

4. Mikail Gorbachev had landed in Beijing to seek an agreement with China? Taking into account the Chinese demands (withdrawal from Afghanistan, halting aid to Vietnam and the issue of Mongolia), please write down how should we convince China for a diplomatic rapprochement and establishment of trade relations?

5. Please write down which ideas/policies could be implemented by the Soviet government to make the Soviet women truly free and equal to men in the USSR?

6. Please write down what should be the focus of the twelfth five-year plan?
1. A
2. 3. 4. 5. 6. agree with @TheImperialTheorist
 
Relegalize abortion
Legalise abortion
Abortion was decriminalised in 1954.
- Set quotas for women in certain roles dominated by men, although keep these quotas very small still, 5% at most.
Existing quotas are 30%.
stimulating the role of women in de medical profession as doctors, not "just" as nurses. Find more professions like these (maybe Quality Control too), where women are easily equal to men provided the same chances and specifically train them to be even better
72% of Soviet doctors are women.
69% of Soviet teachers are women.
39% of scientists are women.
31% of engineers are women.
 

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1. Should be the Soviet Jews allowed by the government to emigrate from the USSR?
A) Yes, it's high time to solve this topic once and for all

Yes but there must be a condiiton that they must spend the first year after leaving in the UD. Note to KGB, can we insert agent to west this way?

2. Please write down how should the USSR respond to the Black Sea incident and violation of Soviet territorial waters by the US Navy?
Respond in kind, stay a bit closer the sea border. Make sure any thing that happnes is fully recorded

3. Following the success of the Mir space stations, the Soviet government had allocated additional funds to the Soviet space program. Please write down to which new/old projects the additional funds may be allocated?
Mars - lets go there

4. Mikail Gorbachev had landed in Beijing to seek an agreement with China? Taking into account the Chinese demands (withdrawal from Afghanistan, halting aid to Vietnam and the issue of Mongolia), please write down how should we convince China for a diplomatic rapprochement and establishment of trade relations?
Give in on Afghanistan and Mongolia, not on Vietnam. Offer access to Mir as an example

5. Please write down which ideas/policies could be implemented by the Soviet government to make the Soviet women truly free and equal to men in the USSR?
Whats left to do?
6. Please write down what should be the focus of the twelfth five-year plan?

Computers,solar power and above all batteries - the smaller, lighter and more storage the better
 
Abortion was decriminalised in 1954.

Existing quotas are 30%.

72% of Soviet doctors are women.
69% of Soviet teachers are women.
39% of scientists are women.
31% of engineers are women.
Thanks, i wasn't aware that it had been relegalised my mistake. As for the quotas i was aware that the USSR had a high proportion of female workers in the medical and scientific sector, i was more referring to the political, defense and industrial sectors, although i'm sure the amount of women in these sectors is greater then in the west and is increasing. I'll also amend my proposal to increase quotas to 25%.

Also can you provide a source to your 30% quota claim? I don't doubt you i'm just curious.
 
There's also still the matter of smashing traditional gender roles, which are still existant in the USSR. These hold back women from their potential and putting additional strain on women who do work careers. Some people have already put foward that we expand the childcare system which i second.
 
1. Should be the Soviet Jews allowed by the government to emigrate from the USSR?
I believe we should allow them to emigrate, but let's not make it easy - a massive exodus of Soviet citizens would not look good. At the same time we fight antisemitism in USSR and improve standard of living to make them want to stay in USSR.
2. Please write down how should the USSR respond to the Black Sea incident and violation of Soviet territorial waters by the US Navy?
Strong condemnation of US sabre rattling. Publicly ask how would the Americans feel if a Soviet warships paraded along US coast.
3. Following the success of the Mir space stations, the Soviet government had allocated additional funds to the Soviet space program. Please write down to which new/old projects the additional funds may be allocated?
Space plane. Something like Chelomey's LKS, a reusable spacecraft, similar to American space shuttle, but smaller. While the idea was rejected in 1983 and Chelomey died in 1984, the project might be successful. It would be cheaper and more universal, and with some modifications it could replace Soyuz / Progress spacecrafts.
And if SDI becomes a problem, it might serve as a space fighter too....
4. Mikail Gorbachev had landed in Beijing to seek an agreement with China? Taking into account the Chinese demands (withdrawal from Afghanistan, halting aid to Vietnam and the issue of Mongolia), please write down how should we convince China for a diplomatic rapprochement and establishment of trade relations?
Here I generally agree with @Kriss , but I would put more intact on bigger Chinese-Soviet economic cooperation and expect China to distance itself more from USA.
5. Please write down which ideas/policies could be implemented by the Soviet government to make the Soviet women truly free and equal to men in the USSR?
I think the main problem is the general, traditional attitude of the Soviet people. Most of the legal provisions are already here. Promote more gender equality in media, improve childcare system to allow women to work. Bigger supply of home utilites (like washers etc.) to give women more free time also wouldn't hurt. Make some big gestures - more women in the Central Comitee with real voice. But again, mot Soviet men and women are very traditional. It will not change overnight.
6. Please write down what should be the focus of the twelfth five-year plan?
I agree with @Altlov here. Perhaps improve cooperation with WP states. East Germans and Poles had some ideas concerning computers...
 
1. Should be the Soviet Jews allowed by the government to emigrate from the USSR?
A) Let's allow emigration though do all we can to eradicate antisemitism and improve standards of living for our Jewish communities.
2. Please write down how should the USSR respond to the Black Sea incident and violation of Soviet territorial waters by the US Navy?
A strongly worded condemnation of this aggressive act and a demand for an apology at the next session of the UN.
3. Following the success of the Mir space stations, the Soviet government had allocated additional funds to the Soviet space program. Please write down to which new/old projects the additional funds may be allocated?
Further investment in the Phobos program along with a probe mission to Venus.
4. Mikail Gorbachev had landed in Beijing to seek an agreement with China? Taking into account the Chinese demands (withdrawal from Afghanistan, halting aid to Vietnam and the issue of Mongolia), please write down how should we convince China for a diplomatic rapprochement and establishment of trade relations?
I'll add my agreement to the proposal of @Altlov and @Kriss.
5. Please write down which ideas/policies could be implemented by the Soviet government to make the Soviet women truly free and equal to men in the USSR?
I'll add my agreement to the proposals of @Altlov
6. Please write down what should be the focus of the twelfth five-year plan?
I'll add my agreement to the proposals of @Altlov and @TheImperialTheorist
 
1. Should be the Soviet Jews allowed by the government to emigrate from the USSR?
A) Yes, it's high time to solve this topic once and for all;
B) No, this won't be in our interest.

2. Please write down how should the USSR respond to the Black Sea incident and violation of Soviet territorial waters by the US Navy?

3. Following the success of the Mir space stations, the Soviet government had allocated additional funds to the Soviet space program. Please write down to which new/old projects the additional funds may be allocated?

4. Mikail Gorbachev had landed in Beijing to seek an agreement with China? Taking into account the Chinese demands (withdrawal from Afghanistan, halting aid to Vietnam and the issue of Mongolia), please write down how should we convince China for a diplomatic rapprochement and establishment of trade relations?

5. Please write down which ideas/policies could be implemented by the Soviet government to make the Soviet women truly free and equal to men in the USSR?

6. Please write down what should be the focus of the twelfth five-year plan?
1 A) Yes, allow them to travel to Israel, with monetary compensation in order to begin building ties with Israel.
2) Send ships to the USA's territorial waters, proceed to pull them out, and then state we are willing to come to a compromise with the USA about the inviolability of territorial waters, in order to prevent such an incident from occurring again.
3) I don't know anything about Soviet space capabilities, so I'll agree to another proposal.
4) Push Beijing for a better deal- what they ask is a complete withdrawal of any influence we may have in Asia. Agree to a demilitarization of the border, but to allow Soviet troops to remain in these countries for defence.
5) Implementation of anti-discrimination laws, removal of barriers to professions, and perhaps monetary payouts for those who have children, freeing them up (somewhat) to continue their career.
6) The twelfth five-year plan should focus on the production of consumer goods and the further integration of the Warsaw Pact States into the Soviet Economy, with the end goal of integrating built-up socialist republics into the USSR by 2000.
 
This is a point, while i oppose the introduction of the WPO as a whole into the USSR what about certain nations? Bulgaria and Mongolia come to mind as good potential SSRs, maybe even Afghanistan or Poland.
 
I am in support of @Altlov except for 4. where my vote goes to @Kriss

Also, while I do agree that expanding the Union is of course a just and welcome path, Afghanistan and Mongolia while possible I think should wait until we know that integrating them wont destroy any chance of reaproachment with China. As for Europe, I honestly think Bulgaria is the best choice to begin with.
As for Poland, meh. It might be easier to bring Chechoslovakia in first.
 
USSR - Factions and Power Blocs (1986)
1. Conservatives - Grigory Romanov
2. Old Guard - Volodymyr Shcherbytsky
3. Moderates - Dinmukhamed Kunaev
4. Reformers - Mikhail Gorbachev
5. Liberals - Yegor Ligachyov
6. Technocrats - Nikolai Ryzhkov
7. Bureaucracy - Nikolai Ryzhkov
8. National Minorities - Dinmukhamed Kunaev

9. "Russian" Faction - Volodymyr Shcherbytsky
10. Neo - Stalinists - Grigory Romanov
11. KGB/Secret Services - Viktor Chebrikov
12. Soviet Armed Forces - Marshal Viktor Kulikov
13. "New Left" - NCPSU
 
Also can you provide a source to your 30% quota claim? I don't doubt you i'm just curious.
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1. Conservatives - Grigory Romanov
2. Old Guard - Volodymyr Shcherbytsky
3. Moderates - Dinmukhamed Kunaev
4. Reformers - Mikhail Gorbachev
5. Liberals - Yegor Ligachyov
6. Technocrats - Nikolai Ryzhkov
7. Bureaucracy - Nikolai Ryzhkov
8. National Minorities - Dinmukhamed Kunaev

9. "Russian" Faction - Volodymyr Shcherbytsky
10. Neo - Stalinists - Grigory Romanov
11. KGB/Secret Services - Viktor Chebrikov
12. Soviet Armed Forces - Marshal Viktor Kulikov
13. "New Left" - NCPSU
Is this ranked by strength?
 
1. Should be the Soviet Jews allowed by the government to emigrate from the USSR?
I am tempted to say yes, but on the condition that the Soviet Jews are only allowed to emigrate to the state of Israel and cannot emigrate to the west or anywhere else.

But the right answer must be no since the consequences of giving a single ethic group of people the right to emigrate whiles others can not would be far more troublesome for us to deal with in the long run.

Edit: If the vote to allow the Jews to leave passes then my suggestion that they can only emigrate to Israel should be considered.

2. Please write down how should the USSR respond to the Black Sea incident and violation of Soviet territorial waters by the US Navy?
I believe that the US should apologize for this incident.

If the US refuses to listen to our request and continues to violate our territorial waters then I see no choice but to respond accordingly by sending our own ships into US territorial waters in retaliation.

3. Following the success of the Mir space stations, the Soviet government had allocated additional funds to the Soviet space program. Please write down to which new/old projects the additional funds may be allocated?
I presume the space program is still going on as OTL?

Well I believe that the Soviet Union should allocate the additional funds into the Energia/Buran shuttle program (we are currently building 5 Space Shuttles), the Zenit-2 rocket (this amazing rocket will replace our older generation rockets), the anti-SDI Polyus spacecraft, the Mars Phobos probes and lastly the MIR-2 space station that we are developing as a replacement for the first Mir station (although that project will only realistically liftoff in the mid to late 1990s).

One thing I'm worried about is that we could possibly lose our expensive Polyus prototype space laser on its first flight, so I will hope that giving our scientist additional funding to make sure that the deployment of the space weapon doesn't end in a failure...

Another point of worry is that our quality control for the Phobos program could be lackluster, so hopefully with additional funds the project won't end up joining our already long list of failed Soviet space probes to Mars.

Lastly we should start developing a dedicated cargo pod for the Energia rocket, since the rocket will be used for the future Soviet maned lunar program (we have 7 years left so I don't believe we have enough time for a maned moon landing).


4. Mikail Gorbachev had landed in Beijing to seek an agreement with China? Taking into account the Chinese demands (withdrawal from Afghanistan, halting aid to Vietnam and the issue of Mongolia), please write down how should we convince China for a diplomatic rapprochement and establishment of trade relations?
I believe that @Kriss and his interpretation of @Altlov's proposal is the right solution for our future relations with China.

Its a really good solution to solve our current situation with China.

5. Please write down which ideas/policies could be implemented by the Soviet government to make the Soviet women truly free and equal to men in the USSR?
I really don't have much ideas, other than promoting for the right of abortions and giving women social benefits for having children.

I don't believe we will be able to achieve the amazing feat of employing 90% of the female population into the workforce like what East Germany did, but at least we can do our best by learning from our East German comrades.

6. Please write down what should be the focus of the twelfth five-year plan?
Obviously the main focus should be on computers, but I'll likely support the most popular focus in the party.
 
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