Gamingboy said:Rule no. 1 of history: NEVER invade Russia if there's the slightest of chances you might get caught in the Russian winter.
Bismarck said:Why didn't that apply to Germany during World War I?
Gamingboy said:Rule No. 2 of History: All other rules are null if the country being invaded is being helped by a mad Monk who claims he can heal people.
Wozza said:so why did they keep winning when the monk was dead?
Gamingboy said:Rule No. 3 of History: All other rules are also Null if the invaded country is on the brink of a revolution or civil war.
I see the number of rules is growing exponentially.Gamingboy said:Rule No. 3 of History: All other rules are also Null if the invaded country is on the brink of a revolution or civil war.
Jason said:Rule 4: There is always the exception that proves the rule!
jolo said:Funny that if Hitler had given up his expansionism after grabbing most of Czechoslovakia (according to the treaties he signed) and just used diplomatic pressure against Poland to get the Corridor eventually, he'd be remembered as one of the greatest German chancellors, mentioned together with Bismarck. I suppose without the war, there might also be not such a drastic version of the Holocaust, as Hitler apparently tried to make his people fight to the end by having them get lots of blood on their hands. The persecution of minorities would have lasted longer, might have had less casualties though, and would have ended some day similar to segregation, apartheid, and the likes.
Gamingboy said:Rule no. 1 of history: NEVER invade Russia if there's the slightest of chances you might get caught in the Russian winter.
Anaxagoras said:Nor was the Holocaust a means to an end, as you suggest. It was an end unto itself. Again, Mein Kampf and his later statements on this subject make this quite clear.
Hmm- Hitler assassinated November 1939- Remembered a hero?jolo said:Funny that if Hitler had given up his expansionism after grabbing most of Czechoslovakia (according to the treaties he signed) and just used diplomatic pressure against Poland to get the Corridor eventually, he'd be remembered as one of the greatest German chancellors, mentioned together with Bismarck. I suppose without the war, there might also be not such a drastic version of the Holocaust, as Hitler apparently tried to make his people fight to the end by having them get lots of blood on their hands. The persecution of minorities would have lasted longer, might have had less casualties though, and would have ended some day similar to segregation, apartheid, and the likes.
Anaxagoras said:Stopping after Czechoslovakia was never on the table. When he wrote Mein Kampf, Hitler laid out very clearly what bis long-term goal was- the destruction of Russia and its enslavement to Germany, once the Western democracies were out of the way. Everything he did was a means to that end.
Nor was the Holocaust a means to an end, as you suggest. It was an end unto itself. Again, Mein Kampf and his later statements on this subject make this quite clear.
In fact, Hitlery was actually ANGRY with France and Britain for giving in at Munich, because he genuinely WANTED war.
Rule No. 6 of History: The Mongols don't care about any of these rules except rule numbers 7 and 8, and will ignore them.Anaxagoras said:Exemption to Rule no. 1: Mongols
Wozza said:Can we please have some WWII ATL's which do not feature Manstein or Speer?
AMBOMB said:BTW, the United States entered the war in the fall of 1941, not the winter.