Another preview of one of my timelines

Nicole · Sep 12, 2005

Straha said:
if it degenerates into anarchy..... Germany could move in "To help restore order"

Even assuming Austria would degenerate into anarchy (the areas on the German Border, Bohemia, Austria Proper, etc. would most likely stay loyal), but I think they'd probably restore the Hapsburgs... though after that Austria would be probably completely subordinated to Germany in all ways but legally, as Austria would have finally proven it has no right to pretend to be a Great Power, or indeed anything more than a vassal of Germany with a fancy title.

luakel · Sep 12, 2005

Straha said:
japan DID attack them. That's why they own alaska and sakhalin. We jsut didn't see the insane militarists due to more US influence.

Why wouldn't Japan sell Alaska to us (especially after the gold rush), if they're such good friends with us? It would be a good way to make the US happy with them.

Nicole · Sep 12, 2005

luakel said:
Why wouldn't Japan sell Alaska to us (especially after the gold rush), if they're such good friends with us? It would be a good way to make the US happy with them.

What is with you and having Japan sell territory to the USA?

Straha · Sep 12, 2005

firstly the US is already busy in this TL's late 19th century. IT picks up land in the pacific, west new guinea and puerto rico. WHY would it want a russian frozen wasteland?

Romulus Augustulus · Sep 12, 2005

Straha said:
firstly the US is already busy in this TL's late 19th century. IT picks up land in the pacific, west new guinea and puerto rico. WHY would it want a russian frozen wasteland?

Straha...perhaps Russia might try to foist Alaska on the US knowing that it was going to lose the territory, and it was on friendly terms with the US, and that it might as well give it to someone it didn't hate?

Or maybe the Russians could deliberately try to sell Alaska out of desperation...

Is it some exiled Tsarist kingdom in this TL?

FederationX · Sep 12, 2005

Looks like a good timeline, Straha.

Straha · Sep 12, 2005

Romulus Augustulus said:
Straha...perhaps Russia might try to foist Alaska on the US knowing that it was going to lose the territory, and it was on friendly terms with the US, and that it might as well give it to someone it didn't hate?

Or maybe the Russians could deliberately try to sell Alaska out of desperation...

Is it some exiled Tsarist kingdom in this TL?

alaska is an integral part of the Empire of Japan, the Union's most loyal ally

luakel · Sep 12, 2005

Imajin said:
What is with you and having Japan sell territory to the USA?

It's an obsession.

Though I suppose it isn't that plausible. But what real use would Japan have for it anyway? And what happens to the German Pacific Colonies in this TL?

Straha · Sep 12, 2005

what german pacific colonies? They only got them in OTL after the spanish american war. with an earleir spanish american war the union takes them before the germans go anywhere near them. Samoa is american.

Romulus Augustulus · Sep 12, 2005

Straha said:
alaska is an integral part of the Empire of Japan, the Union's most loyal ally

How's everyday life in this universe? It seems like some sort of awful hell, if you ask me...

Straha · Sep 12, 2005

Romulus- Life in this TL is hell if you're black in brazil or the confederacy.

Romulus- it all depends....

The first world here is substantially larger with India, Russia(and a good chunk of central asia), Argentina, Chile, parts of the carribean/pacific ruled by the union, germany's empire in east europe and ALL of korea being first world.

Brazil, mexico/central america, siam, south africa, persia and egypt are all richer than OTL. The upper classes(whites in most and rich whites in australia) of the confederacy, australia, brazil and south africa enjoy living standards

FRance, Italy, the UK, ireland, indonesia, most of africa, northern china, much of south america, turkey, spain and indochina are all worse off than OTL.

Romulus Augustulus · Sep 12, 2005

Straha said:
Romulus- Life in this TL is hell if you're black in brazil or the confederacy.

Romulus- it all depends....

The first world here is substantially larger with India, Russia(and a good chunk of central asia), Argentina, Chile, parts of the carribean/pacific ruled by the union, germany's empire in east europe and ALL of korea being first world.

Brazil, mexico/central america, siam, south africa, persia and egypt are all richer than OTL. The upper classes(whites in most and rich whites in australia) of the confederacy, australia, brazil and south africa enjoy living standards

FRance, Italy, the UK, ireland, indonesia, most of africa, northern china, much of south america, turkey, spain and indochina are all worse off than OTL.

Central Asia is first world?

So, my analogue is probably well-off. Let's not get into that.

Popular culture?

Straha · Sep 12, 2005

Romulus Augustulus said:
Central Asia is first world?

So, my analogue is probably well-off. Let's not get into that.

Popular culture?

Mu guess is that global popular culture is more diverse than OTL with brazil, a rich southern china, argentina, chile, russia, the union AND the confederacy all chiming in.

Romulus Augustulus · Sep 12, 2005

Straha said:
Mu guess is that global popular culture is more diverse than OTL with brazil, a rich southern china, argentina, chile, russia, the union AND the confederacy all chiming in.

How about a computer games industry? Is there still anime? Hollywood or analogues? Other important aspects?

I think you should flesh out what everyday life tends to be like...

luakel · Sep 12, 2005

What is the US like, politically? More liberal? Less? More accepting of blacks or white-supremacist?

Straha · Sep 12, 2005

There IS anime and computer games. Tech for computers/videogames is more advanced than OTL but advanced slower. We had a longer 8 bit/16 bit/"24bit"(what I call the inbetween age with graphics like the late 16 bit era and the earlist PS1 games)/32bit(could have happened if the n64 didn't up the ante)/64bit(no dreamcast/PS2...)/128bit(where we are now)....

Anime exists and is more popular in the union. theres no comics code authority or hearings so the union has a thriving comics industry.

luakel · Sep 12, 2005

Straha said:
Anime exists and is more popular in the union. theres no comics code authority or hearings so the union has a thriving comics industry.

Do any of OTL's superheroes still exist? If not, then which ones do?

Straha · Sep 12, 2005

The US is in general more classical liberal than OTL on most things. the economy tends to be both more decentralized and capitalistic(no big corpora). National healthcare is pretty much the big "liberal "difference from OTL's america. OTher than national healthcare and good environmental laws, socialistic policies have less influence than in ours. They'd for example think the reds took over in our america.

Now for social policies. The US is more lax about "soft" drugs and other such 'vices" with them tending to be legal or if they're legal in OTL legal with less government interference. Gun control is NOT accepted anywhere in the union OR confederacy. Racism/sexism is signifacntly less than 2005 levels in the union. Same thing for homophobia. The US is very secular when compared to our america.

To sum it up this US is more liberal socially but more conservative economically

luakel · Sep 12, 2005

Straha said:
To sum it up this US is more liberal socially but more conservative economically

Isn't that how you'd love the US to be in OTL?

Straha · Sep 12, 2005

Not particular. This US avoids the hippie counterculture. We see a slow motion sexual revolution/normalization fo soft drugs but no '60s. and since I considered the 60's to be good times.... No its not exactly like OTL.