About the North Africa/Maghreb discussion - @GTStinger, as @St. Just and @MK-ULTRAmontist pointed out, the reasons by which the Iberians voyaged across the Ocean were peculiar, and not necessarily can be replicated with whatever Islamic peoples remain in case North Africa becomes geopolitically "cut off" the rest of the Islamic world. I'm actually working with the premise that the Discoveries will be delayed for some time (well, we've had this discussion in TTL more than once), especially because the Europeans now would have a convenient passway to Southeast and Eastern Asia to care about going to the Atlantic.
The Maghrebi and Sahelian Muslim entities, once the Reconquista ends, and Egypt is in Crusader hands, will become increasingly isolated lose much of its relevance to the Islamic world, which will most likey move its axis towards the Indo-Persian and Central Asian spheres of influence. Oddly enough, we can also imagine that the loss of the Levant and northeastern Africa to the Christians, and of the Crescent to the Turkic sultanates might inspire a renaissance of sorts in Arabia proper, whole relevance declined after the Abbasid Caliphate established itself in Iraq.
@MK-ULTRAmontist and @jocay - the idea of the Maghrebi Muslims being the pioneers of the circumnavigation of Africa is very interesting, and gives an interesting perspective in an Africa that becomes even more Islamic-influenced than IOTL. Curiously enough, these Subsaharan peoples will be more influenced by Berber Islamism than Arabic Islamic properly, so I can see some more peculiar denominations arising among the Khoisan, for example, as it happened with the Tuaregs in the nascent days of the Almoravids and of the Almohads.
Yeah, there might be some episodes of conflict, but, overall, the Latins won't have incentive, neither religious, nor economic, to prevent the Muslims going to Mecca. The Caliphates as a rule of thumb were very tolerant of Christian pilgrims coming to Jerusalem. In any case, I believe that the continued presence of a non-Islamic entity in the Levant, tolerant as it might be, will inspire Muslims to seek alternative routes.
Yes, you worded it perfectly. In fact, as TVTropes commonly points out, tropes are tools, and even the "pendulum fallacy" can be well used in an alt-TL, if we see reasonable explanations to "If A loses Y, B wins X", we'll accept it in the realm of plausibility.
While I'm currently adopting the premise of a quicker and comprehensive Reconquista, compared to OTL, we can certainly think about possible scenarios that explain a surviving Granada or a Berber Caliphate. As I've stated many times before, the main focus is always the situation in the Levant, but we'll be delving time to time in these other regions.
The Maghrebi and Sahelian Muslim entities, once the Reconquista ends, and Egypt is in Crusader hands, will become increasingly isolated lose much of its relevance to the Islamic world, which will most likey move its axis towards the Indo-Persian and Central Asian spheres of influence. Oddly enough, we can also imagine that the loss of the Levant and northeastern Africa to the Christians, and of the Crescent to the Turkic sultanates might inspire a renaissance of sorts in Arabia proper, whole relevance declined after the Abbasid Caliphate established itself in Iraq.
@MK-ULTRAmontist and @jocay - the idea of the Maghrebi Muslims being the pioneers of the circumnavigation of Africa is very interesting, and gives an interesting perspective in an Africa that becomes even more Islamic-influenced than IOTL. Curiously enough, these Subsaharan peoples will be more influenced by Berber Islamism than Arabic Islamic properly, so I can see some more peculiar denominations arising among the Khoisan, for example, as it happened with the Tuaregs in the nascent days of the Almoravids and of the Almohads.
Yeah, there might be some episodes of conflict, but, overall, the Latins won't have incentive, neither religious, nor economic, to prevent the Muslims going to Mecca. The Caliphates as a rule of thumb were very tolerant of Christian pilgrims coming to Jerusalem. In any case, I believe that the continued presence of a non-Islamic entity in the Levant, tolerant as it might be, will inspire Muslims to seek alternative routes.
Yes, you worded it perfectly. In fact, as TVTropes commonly points out, tropes are tools, and even the "pendulum fallacy" can be well used in an alt-TL, if we see reasonable explanations to "If A loses Y, B wins X", we'll accept it in the realm of plausibility.
While I'm currently adopting the premise of a quicker and comprehensive Reconquista, compared to OTL, we can certainly think about possible scenarios that explain a surviving Granada or a Berber Caliphate. As I've stated many times before, the main focus is always the situation in the Levant, but we'll be delving time to time in these other regions.
