seljuks

  1. EasternRomanEmpire

    Without Manzikert would the Crusades still happen?

    If the Battle of Manzikert was to never happen or unfold differently meaning that the Seljuks never manage to get into Anatolia would the Crusades still happen?
  2. A United Levant against the First Crusade?

    So, for some time i had this idea. As you may know, the First Crusade was a clusterball of disasters somehow succeeding. One of the main reasons for their success, if not *the* main reason, was Muslim disunity. The area between Constantinople and the Sinai was perhaps the least united it had...
  3. Xenophonte

    Byzantine/Eastern Roman WI

    What If Leo Tornikios, an E. Roman/Byzantine Doux from an important family and Emperors relative, didn't rebel or rather if he would, that he'd be prevented to do so. Either imprisoning him effectively or at the times practice, making secure that even if willing he couldn't be considered apt for...
  4. Kilij Arslan I doesn't underestimate the First Crusade?

    The sultan of Rum from 1092 until his premature death in 1107, Kilij Arslan I was the first Muslim monarch to face a crusade, easily defeating the disorganized peasant army led by Peter the Hermit in October 1096. Unfortunately for him, the scale of his victory made him think the sultanate's...
  5. No islam Sasanians fall to Seljuk Jews?

    can Seljuks destroy Sasanian Empire ? how would this affect history can Seljuks destroy Sasanian Empire ? third temple? please answer the questions and like and the share the post
  6. No Islam Jewish Turks?

    can Khazar proselytizism convert Turks to Judiasm since Islam is not and Zoroastrians don't proselytize ? how would this affect history please answer the questions and like and the share the post
  7. Kerbogha relieves/retakes Antioch from the First Crusade. What next?

    For those who don't know, Kerbogha was the Turkish atabeg (leader) of Mosul who led an army to relieve the city of Antioch, which was besieged by the First Crusade, and, after it fell before his arrival, to retake it from them. Wikipedia provides two possible PODs which could've resulted in the...
  8. What if the Byzantine Komnenoi were never overthrown by the Angeloi?

    Introduction: The Komnenos dynasty presided over an era of prosperity for the Byzantine Empire known as the Komnenian Restoration. Their overthrow led to the rise of the incompetent house of Angelos, which failed to stop the Turks, Bulgarians, and Crusaders, and Isaac II Angelos' Latin-backed...
  9. AHC: Bohemond sides with the Turks against Byzantium

    During the 11th and early 12th centuries, what if Bohemond, or other Norman adventurers who had ambitions to conquer land from the Byzantine Empire, decided to side with the Seljuk Turk empire, possibly converting to Islam, in their attempt to acquire fiefdoms? How would it turn out? Would this...
  10. Caucus-Ruso-Persian

    Seljuks remaining Jewish?

    The second generation of the Seljuk Turks possessed a Jewish lineage descending back to that of the Khazars. Anyway this could have been maintained and brought with them, instead of converting to Islam? Just looking for a fun discussion.
  11. GauchoBadger

    WI: Crusader victory at Harran (1104)

    What if the Crusader forces under Bohemond, Prince of Antioch, and Baldwin II, Count of Edessa (and future King of Jerusalem) had managed to not get caught in a trap and slaughtered by the Seljuks of Mosul at the Battle of Harran, in 1104 AD? If Bohemond avoids disaster and humiliation, where...
  12. GauchoBadger

    WI: No Komnenian Restoration

    In the years after the disastrous defeat at the Battle of Manzikert (1071), the Byzantine Empire seemed to be breaking down at the seams. The Turks were invading Anatolia and raided all the way to the western coast, the Normans were raiding Epirus and Greece, and the Pechenegs were raiding the...
  13. House of Orange

    WI: Seljuk Empire goes east

    (This is my first post on the forum by the way, though I've been reading posts on here long before; hope I'm not breaking any rules, sorry if I am) The Byzantine-Seljuk Wars, the Seljuk invasion of Anatolia, and the Battle of Manzikert were all major points in the downfall of the Byzantine...
  14. GauchoBadger

    WI: No Seljuk steamroller, Iranian Intermezzo continues

    Suppose that the Seljuks are defeated by the Ghaznavids at the Battle of Dandanaqan (1040), preventing the Seljuk invasions of the middle east or at least buying some time for the multiple iranian states to consolidate. What happens to... The Ghaznavids? The Buyids? The Abbasid Caliphate? The...
  15. GauchoBadger

    WI: Malik Shah I Seljuk not assassinated

    Malik Shah was the successor to Alp Arslan to the throne of the Seljuk Empire. He, however, only reigned for twenty years, before he was assassinated in 1092. It is suspected that it was the Abbasid caliph who ordered his death. After Malik's death, many claimants to the title of Seljuk sultan...
  16. Earl Marshal

    WI Romanos IV Diogenes dies in Manzikert?

    Romanos IV Diogenes was the co-Emperor of the Byzantine Empire with Michael X Doukas from 1068 to 1071 when he was captured at the battle of Manzikert by Alp Arslan. He was eventually released on the guarantee of a massive ransom of 1.5 million nomismata and another 360,000 annually...
  17. Whiteshore

    DBWI: The Battle of Manzikert was a Rhomanian defeat?

    As we all know, Rhomania beat back the Seljuk Turks in the Battle of Manzikert, which led to the Seljuks invading and conquering Egypt, but what if the Rhomanians had been defeated at Manzikert? Would Anatolia have fallen to the Seljuks or would it have merely been another defeat the Rhomanian...
  18. Gukpard

    Fully Turkified Persia

    So, here some ideas: The byzzies wins at Manzikert, and the Seljuks for some reason do not make more incursions on Anatolia. Then the Mongols invade but the Seljuks succesfully hold them could this result in the complete Turkification of Persia, and Persia turn into a analogue of modern day...
  19. Linbot

    WI: Orthodox Christian Seljuqs?

    What would actually happen in this sort of world? Is this even remotely plausible?
  20. Ricard (i.e. Rdffigueira)

    And All Nations Shall Gather To It - Volume I: The Abode of Peace

    "And All Nations Shall Gather To It" - A Crusades TL ***** Hello, friends, This is a story I've been writing, bit a bit, for some months now, focused on the Crusaders (with a PoD in the First Crusade), and in an alt-Kingdom of Jerusalem (let's abreviate "KOJ" to facilitate). For a set of...
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