An Age of Miracles Continues: The Empire of Rhomania

The Lands of Germany (and neighbors), 1651 part 2
The Lands of Germany (and Neighbors), 1651 part 2:

The example of Nuremberg provides a spur for many other similar uprisings across the Holy Roman Empire. Some of them are quickly and bloodily put down, but enough survive long enough to encourage even more rebellions and to link up and join forces with both other rebellions and the regular coalition forces opposing Philip and Henri.

Barring exceptional local leadership such as the Ravens had possessed before them, or the likes of Andreas Hofer, it is probable that for all their widespread fury, these would have produced much noise and fire, but little of lasting substance. Three risings in the Rhineland are put down in six, four, and ten days respectively, with only the last requiring reinforcements from other districts to be suppressed. But Leopold provides a force behind which they can rally. It is notable that many peasant rebellions appeal to the monarch for redress, and in this instance, for once, the monarch is not only willing but eager to listen.

The banner of Leopold helps to give these rebellions organization and coherence, because these rebellions are finally what push the majority of Imperial princes off the fence where they have studiously been trying to stay. They are scared of Henri, but also concerned about their own people, and their own people are closer. Furthermore, by rallying to Leopold they can hopefully get out ahead of popular discontent, while supporting the Saxon Duke is far more ideologically palatable then championing a ‘rising of the people’. Most princes are more akin to Elizabeth in their lack of sympathy for such an idea, but now they have no choice but to go along with it.

Much historiography of the German Vespers focuses on the nationalist aspect since that feels the most modern and forward-looking. There is an element of that, with Leopold being the face of that. Young and stunningly good-looking (to this day, he is a popular icon in the German gay community, with even some historical depictions and descriptions being decidedly homoerotic), he is ideally suited for the role.

However usually this element is overemphasized. Leopold’s play wouldn’t even have begun if not for Elizabeth, and her motives are entirely dynastic, to secure at least the core inheritance for her son Karl Manfred.

More significantly, what gives the German Vespers its weight and power is the religious component. This is usually labeled as ‘medieval’, a labeling that implicitly argues that modern people don’t engage in religious violence, to differentiate it from ‘modern’ nationalism. But this pivotal moment in modern German history would’ve been a dud if not for this supposedly medieval component.

The nationalist rhetoric that is circulating around Germany at the time is making substantial waves in society, but in the towns and cities of Germany, among the urban elites, intellectuals, and the relatively-well-off artisanal classes. In the countryside, its influence is extremely meager. And the countryside is where 85%+ of the population lives. Cries of defending ‘sacred Germany’ won’t move the peasants, who don’t understand or care about such an idea. But a cry of defending ‘Holy Mother Church’ will rouse them to fury.

Henri, for his part, had been very careful not to stir up the religious question. That it ends up exploding shows how even the powers of even one of the most powerful 17th century monarchs are limited compared to the modern standards. Triune troops were Bohmanist and they were marching through and occupying Catholic territories. Now in the Rhineland there were substantial Bohmanist minorities in many places, but east of the great river was Catholic land.

Most troops generally behaved themselves, and if and when they caused trouble it was the typical grievances of troops not getting enough pay or supplies or sex or getting too much drink. It was terrible and infuriating and traumatic for those on the receiving end, but there was no religious component.

Yet there were a few exceptions, where Bohmanist troops did trash Catholic churches and monasteries, smashing images as ‘idolatrous’, and even using such structures as stables and lavatories to deliberately profane the buildings. Here there clearly was a religious aspect, and while in the minority these incidents inevitably made the most press. English troops seem to have been more likely to have committed such outrages; England in general was more stridently Bohmanist and anti-Catholic in rhetoric than France. There were some French soldiers involved in some of these incidents, but overwhelmingly the stereotype in both Germany and France is that this kind of behavior is English.

This issue has already, by 1651, been causing some tension between the French and the English. Triune officials, recognizing the horrible effects such incidents had on German opinion, both popular and princely, had tried to stop or at least punish such instigators. Thus, French officials were coming mostly after English soldiers. English clerics who supported such iconoclasm reacted with fury, condemning their opponents for their supposed laxity in religion, but increasingly in nationalist terms as well. Frenchmen returned fire in the same terms.

Many of the Imperial states are clerical, ruled by bishops or monastic charters, and while small are quite wealthy and influential. These princes are particularly outraged by such attacks, and as they come off the fence for Leopold after Nuremberg, they encourage the secular princes to do likewise. Giving the push more weight, and deep resonance in the countryside, is the Pope, who puts the whole weight of the Catholic Church on the scale for his nephew. In other circumstances, the declaration of a Holy War against the Bohmanist heretics here might be viewed as a cynical papal effort undertaken for nepotistic means, but the aforementioned Triune iconoclasm and sacrilege means it is taken genuinely and seriously. [1]

The Pope cannot provide any battalions, but he can provide both the moral authority and the money to raise many battalions. And Henri can’t effectively retaliate without invading Arletian territory to get to Avignon, an act which would disintegrate all the gains of his longstanding charm offensive in Arles, and be eventually met with a Spanish army counterattacking from the other side of the Pyrenees.

The rest of 1651 is a flurry of activity as Philip and Henri engage in damage control while Leopold and a wary Elizabeth seek to capitalize on their momentum. With Imperial and Triune forces running around trying to stomp down bushfires, Elizabeth is able to march into Bavaria and within two months takes the whole principality. The Imperial-Triune garrisons are either withdrawn or overwhelmed, since in the chaos there is no chance of them getting reinforcements.

Riding into Munich substantially improves Elizabeth’s mood, but she moves quickly to take control. She is happy to accept volunteers to fight Philip and Henri, since she knows they will strike back when they get the chance, but she wants these units under the command of officers she can trust. These are the Bavarian aristocracy, with a long tradition of service under Wittelsbach arms. She doesn’t want any weapons or military experience getting into the hands of any would-be Ravens 2.0.

By the end of 1651, the rough battle lines have settled down. Eastern Germany, as opposed to just the northeast corner, has declared against Philip and Henri, while western Germany has been mostly tamped down. But while Philip and Henri have reestablished rough control there, they are suffering sharply from guerrilla attacks and it is clear their control, east of the Rhineland, lives and dies by the sword alone.

Relations between Henri and Philip are becoming increasingly strained by the stress. Henri curses Philip for falling to scotch Leopold before this situation snowballed, but Philip is unwise enough to criticize Henri by pointing out that Leopold was Henri’s man.

Henri’s response to the crisis in Germany is sharp. Two field armies are marshalled in the lower and upper Rhineland, troops, equipment, and supplies gathering for the 1652 campaigning season. It is a level of force unseen since the initial Triune attack on Lotharingia and the Holy Roman Empire fifteen years earlier. The first is commanded by Henri’s first cousin, Gaston, Duc d’Orleans, who had led the original great invasion that had conquered the Rhineland and slew Archbishop Bone-Breaker. The second is led by Gaspar de Rochechouart, Duke of Nemours, conqueror of Strasbourg who also crushed the Bernese-Spanish army at Mulhouse. At his side, as a key part of his military education, is the Dauphin Louis, nearing his fifteenth birthday.

Leopold knows what forces are gathering along the Rhine. He knows if he matches gun-line to gun-line, he will lose. He has plenty of recruits, enthusiastic but raw. But he has an exemplar for just such a scenario, and with Andreas Hofer helping him is well-placed to implement them. He will copy Raven tactics. Instead of gun-lines, he will have columns of troops, marching fast and attacking hard with the emphasis on cold steel, using speed and steel and numbers to overwhelm the enemy, supported by Saxon, Brandenburg, Russian, and other German regulars as necessary.

Such tactics had served the Ravens quite well in similar situations. Admittedly one Duc d’Orleans was able to defeat the Ravens anyway, but Leopold has some advantages unavailable to the Ravens. He has disciplined regulars and artillery and cavalry of his own to back up the columns, and now, finally, numbers far greater than the Ravens ever managed to muster.

[1] Although given substantial crusading rhetoric, this is not a numbered crusade, as only holy wars directed against the Holy Land or in that direction, such as the Fourth and Tenth, get such distinction. [Author’s note: For an OTL analogy, see various Holy Leagues against the Ottomans. There was crusading rhetoric, but no historian to my knowledge tries to list Lepanto or 1683 Vienna as a numbered crusade.]
 
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Ottomans and Oil: Yeah, the Ottomans are really well placed in future times for all that oil revenue, if they keep anything like their current borders and can reliably utilize those reserves.
That's assuming they know what to do with the flood of foreign money. They might turn out like Venezuela, where the incredible concentration of foreign cash reserves crushed domestic industries because everyone could import foreign goods willy nilly. Or like OTL Persia, which had a bunch of weak and shortsighted Shahs sell off concessions for peanuts.

Are we finally seeing the start of the Anglo-French split? How are the Plantagenets doing in terms of fostering a hybrid Anglois culture TTL?
 
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What would be the key factors preventing Henri from simply cutting this loses and leaving Philip on his own?
He’ll lose the buffer states that he wants but will still retain all the conquests.
 
If Henri were to back down now, I would assume it would lead to a loss of prestige and legitimacy as his subjects see him. After all, how could our 'glorious emperor' (Is Henri an Emperor or just a King?) have lost to a handful of Germans...

This is all assuming that the Ottomans can keep their hold on the Gulf for another few centuries. I have a difficult time believing they'll get through the revolutionary era unscathed.

Thanks for another great chapter Basileus!
 
Are we finally seeing the start of the Anglo-French split? How are the Plantagenets doing in terms of fostering a hybrid Anglois culture TTL?
I mean, the Habsburgs never tried to create a hybrid German-Hungarian culture, and it didn't stop them from being a major force for several centuries. If nationalism develops similarly in this timeline, the Plantagenet realms might come to rely on a form of civic nationalism and loyalty to their shared dynasty, while the romantic nationalist ideal of a shared ethnicity would be anathema to them. Nevertheless, the French language has probably continued to spread across the Channel, keeping the "Anglo-Normaund" dialect alive, so in that sense there would be more cultural similarities in the government and upper classes.
 
The Lands of Germany (and neighbors), 1652 part 1
That's assuming they know what to do with the flood of foreign money. They might turn out like Venezuela, where the incredible concentration of foreign cash reserves crushed domestic industries because everyone could import foreign goods willy nilly. Or like OTL Persia, which had a bunch of weak and shortsighted Shahs sell off concessions for peanuts.

Are we finally seeing the start of the Anglo-French split? How are the Plantagenets doing in terms of fostering a hybrid Anglois culture TTL?

I mean, the Habsburgs never tried to create a hybrid German-Hungarian culture, and it didn't stop them from being a major force for several centuries. If nationalism develops similarly in this timeline, the Plantagenet realms might come to rely on a form of civic nationalism and loyalty to their shared dynasty, while the romantic nationalist ideal of a shared ethnicity would be anathema to them. Nevertheless, the French language has probably continued to spread across the Channel, keeping the "Anglo-Normaund" dialect alive, so in that sense there would be more cultural similarities in the government and upper classes.

Ottoman oil can go many ways, but that’s all well in the future so haven’t committed to anything yet.

Won’t speak here about Anglo-French because, well, see update for a hint.

Should this be "against Phillip and for Elizabeth" or "against Phillip and Henri"?

Fixed to second. Thanks.

What would be the key factors preventing Henri from simply cutting this loses and leaving Philip on his own?
He’ll lose the buffer states that he wants but will still retain all the conquests.

If Henri were to back down now, I would assume it would lead to a loss of prestige and legitimacy as his subjects see him. After all, how could our 'glorious emperor' (Is Henri an Emperor or just a King?) have lost to a handful of Germans...

This is all assuming that the Ottomans can keep their hold on the Gulf for another few centuries. I have a difficult time believing they'll get through the revolutionary era unscathed.

Thanks for another great chapter Basileus!

There’s the matter of prestige. And sunk cost fallacy. More substantially, if Henri did so, he would lose any opportunity to influence and shape how things settle out east of the Rhine. A HRE under Leopold that consolidates back to a level comparable to that of Theodor in 1630, when this whole thing started, is going to be a problem. And in this scenario, the Triunes have no buffer east of the Rhine.

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The lands of Germany (and neighbors), 1652 part 1:

Exactly how many Germans rose up against Henry and Philip Sigismund is one of those debates that historians love to have but will never resolve. Much future nationalist rhetoric makes much of the claim of ‘twenty million Germans’ but these are grossly exaggerated. Even the most popular uprisings and revolutions never galvanize 100% of the population. But clearly a lot did rise.

Much of the same nationalist rhetoric also seeks to express the uniqueness of the event, but that is also exaggerated. The Glorious Uprising as it is styled was largely a peasant rebellion, rising against depredations and exactions and in defense of their Church. The mid-1600s would see many such rebellions, from Spain and England to Champa and Japan.

However, there was one key aspect that did make the German example almost unique. Except for Mesopotamia, these popular uprisings were directed against the ruling authorities as opposed to foreigners. The German peasantry had many grievances, as can be witnessed by the recent Raven Uprising, and those had not gone away, but with the Triune invasion their anger was directed largely away from the German princes and toward the foreigners and their lackeys. In that sense, Henri probably did many of the German princes a favor.

The Triune Army of the North, commanded by the Duc d’Orleans, has the target of Saxony, and is the larger of the two armies and has the benefit of being directly supported by Philip Sigismund, whose landholdings are in north-central Germany. At the outset it is said to muster 60,000 Triunes and 25,000 Imperials, although that may be an exaggeration. And even if true, for reasons that will become apparent, it was a total not held for long.

The Triune Army of the South, commanded by the Duke of Nemours and accompanied by the Dauphin Louis, is appreciably smaller at only 45,000 Triunes and no Imperials. Earlier expeditions in the south, such as the attack that had originally driven the Wittelsbachs from Bavaria and the more-recent attack on Austria, had been accompanied by at least some Imperial troops to add some veneer of Imperial approval. Henri, in his growing frustration with Philip and Germans in general, is finding it increasingly difficult to care about such symbolism. It’s not like the pretense was fooling anyone before anyway.

The campaign in southern Germany is the most conventional of the two. Elizabeth doesn’t want to rely on popular enthusiasm and focuses on utilizing regular structures and authorities and forces. Between what she can gather from Bavaria, the Russian expedition, and a contingent of Spanish mercenaries (some of them formerly in Stephen’s employ), she can muster a force of just over thirty thousand.

She and her commanders don’t consider this enough to risk a field engagement, so a strategy of scorched earth and delay is implemented. Western Bavaria is stripped as much as possible as the Triune army advances, while Munich is heavily garrisoned and provisioned. The bulk of the field army retreats slightly to the southeast of Munich, hovering nearby to harass the Triunes. Nemours, not wanting to leave the powerful Munich garrison in his rear, ideally placed to cut his lines of communication with France, settles down for a siege of the Bavarian capital. Vauban may not be present, but Nemours has many siege engineers trained by Vauban and the typical skilled artillery train.

This does not mean the siege will be easy. Commanding the Munich garrison is once again Count Ernst Rüdiger von Starhemburg, reprising his role from the mid-1630s; he had returned to Wittelsbach service after Stephen left the coalition and Elizabeth retook Bavaria. Also, the Lady Elizabeth is there in person, walking along the battlements and encouraging her soldiers, sparking memories of the city’s successful resistance against Hungarians and Romans.

The supply situation for the Triune army turns out to be poorer than expected. Between Elizabeth’s scorched earth tactics and the use of Bavaria to support the Triune attack against Vienna, the area has been picked clean. Foraging efforts further afield are hampered by the Bavarians and Russians to the southeast. Even if there is no fighting, their mere presence forces Triune units to concentrate, sharply curtailing efforts to extract supplies from the land.

The weather also turns decisively hostile. It is cool and wet, very wet. Torrential heavy rains pour down, making conditions in the siege camp utterly miserable and sodden, which then encourages the spread of disease. Dysentery quickly becomes rampant. The rain also hampers bombardment, given the need to keep powder dry. The defenders of Munich are better equipped to do that.

Dysentery eventually becomes so bad that even the Dauphin Louis is stricken with it, but nearly all who see him on this campaign approve heartily of his conduct. The teenage prince shows himself willing to endure all the hardships of his men, earning their affection, and showing himself to be brave. Perhaps he is a little excessive here, as he is at the age when many young men consider themselves indestructible. There are at least three occasions when soldiers or officers have to politely insist he remove himself to a safer location, but they only like Louis the more for having to do so.

But not all feel that way about him. At the beginning of the campaign, Louis castigates an English unit for ransacking a monastery and quartering their animals there. The soldiers, who think he is trying to make them give up their loot, react angrily, and their chaplain, one Cotton Mather, a firebrand Puritan, also reacts with venom. (It is unclear if the English recognize Louis for who he is.) The Dauphin eventually gives way and retreats, but strongly resents the abuse.

The entire incident took place through interpreters, as Louis does not speak English. This illustrates a serious problem in the Dauphin’s education. As Louis’ presence and appearance reminded Henri too much of his Queen, the Dauphin had not been raised in Le Havre du Roi (King’s Harbor), with its mix of French and English. He had been raised in Paris and surroundings. There he had received an excellent education, and the young Louis can speak and write fluently in French, Latin, and Greek, and has moderate competence in Spanish and Tuscan-Italian. His tutors thought that he should be conversant in all ‘tongues of literary merit and intellectual value’. English did not make the list.

Despite much suffering and effort, the Triune siege simply bogs down in the mud and excrement. In one disturbing episode, Triune foragers succeed in rounding up twenty hogs. Returning to camp late in the day, the hogs are penned up with some forty donkeys from the baggage train with the plan of butchering the pigs the next morning. In the morning it is discovered that the hogs have eaten the donkeys. [1] Morale is not helped by this incident.

Faced with a growing sanitation nightmare, a lack of food, and a lengthening sick list, eventually the Duke of Nemours abandons the siege and retreats westward out of Bavarian territory. The muddy, hungry, dysenteric march is miserable, but at least largely unhampered by Bavarian-Russian attacks. Elizabeth’s forces are suffering from similar problems, although not to the same extent.

The Bavarians’ pain unfortunately does not end there. The torrential rains had done much to thwart the Triune siege, but they also ruined the harvest, many of the sodden crops rotting before they could ripen. The result is famine, with disease taking advantage of the malnutrition. More than one priest visiting their parishioners mention seeing houses full of the dead and dying, the occupants too weak to even answer the door. In the 1650s, it is estimated that the Bavarian populations drops by at least ten, and perhaps even fifteen, percent.

The war is hardly over, with the campaign in the north dissolving into an all-consuming vortex of blood and chaos, but for the moment the Dauphin Louis is out of it. Stricken by dysentery, he retires to Strasbourg over the winter to recuperate. As his body shudders as his dysentery-wracked bowels rage, it is unsurprising that his mood is not the most amicable.

Louis is a Frenchman by culture and outlook, and as he looks on the developing war, his thoughts are in-line with many other Frenchmen. He has proven his valor on the field of Mars, and valor recognizes and respects valor. Though frustrated with the course of events, he does not fault the Germans. They are fighting for their lands, and while Louis would prefer French victories with minimal loss of French blood, he will not fault the Germans for thinking otherwise.

Yet he thinks it did not have to be this way. It is clear to him, and many other Frenchmen, that the German people had been roused overwhelmingly by the threat to their faith. Now it is clear on historical grounds that assaults on the Catholic Church in Germany had been committed by both English and French soldiers, but the English seem disproportionately involved, and get most of the blame. The Germans and the French (the latter in an admittedly self-serving way to absolve themselves) associate such behavior with the English.

So, Louis and many other Frenchmen see the ultimate cause of this maelstrom as the English. This mess is their fault, and now it is the French that are paying the price. And at the same time, Henri is having serious difficulties with an intransigent Parliament which doesn’t see why “Yorkshire should pay for defending Brunswick”.

Louis’ growing antipathy towards the English, following this train of thought and the humiliation at the monastery, is further reinforced once he recovers. He takes a mistress, the daughter of a goldsmith and town notable. An English Puritan preacher, one John Winthrop, then proceeds to loudly and publicly denounce and excoriate the Prince for his sin until he is ejected from Strasbourg, after which Winthrop condemns the Dauphin for defying the will of God. (Louis caustically notes that it is rather convenient that God’s will aligns so well with Winthrop’s.) Winthrop soon finds it healthy to relocate to the New World, but he is not silenced.

Since its inception, the composite monarchy of France and England has been discordant between the French and the English. But it is clear that by the mid-1600s, that discordance, fueled by the growing religious divergences, is in many circles ramping up into disdain and hatred. Earlier Triune monarchs had been able to bridge the gap. Even though mostly French, they still could present at times an English face. But the gap is widening, and the young Louis lacks the ability and the will. He is French and “will treat that stiff-necked people as they deserve”.

[1] Supposedly this incident took place IOTL. In the fighting in German East Africa (future Tanzania) in WW1, British foragers captured twenty hogs and penned them up for the night with forty of their donkeys, with this result. See World War I-The African Front: An Imperial War on the African Continent by Edward Paice.
 

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I can definitely see that happening, hogs, and most porcine species, are far more omnivorous that people commonly think.

Also going to be interesting what happens in the future regarding the Triunes, especially since it seems that while not in Henri's league Louis is competent and well liked, at least in France.
 
But the gap is widening, and the young Louis lacks the ability and the will. He is French and “will treat that stiff-necked people as they deserve”.
Looks like Triune Civil war incoming. There’s no way once Henri kicks the bucket they’ll have a secure hold over England (and Ireland?).

With Bavaria picked clean, it doesn’t look like the war can continue here any longer - so events north will be decisive.
 
The entire incident took place through interpreters, as Louis does not speak English. This illustrates a serious problem in the Dauphin’s education. As Louis’ presence and appearance reminded Henri too much of his Queen, the Dauphin had not been raised in Le Havre du Roi (King’s Harbor), with its mix of French and English. He had been raised in Paris and surroundings. There he had received an excellent education, and the young Louis can speak and write fluently in French, Latin, and Greek, and has moderate competence in Spanish and Tuscan-Italian. His tutors thought that he should be conversant in all ‘tongues of literary merit and intellectual value’. English did not make the list.
I wonder if this turns out to be Henri's biggest mistake in an otherwise pretty successful reign. It certainly looks like it. I can understand Henri wanting him raised in Paris, but why didn't he ensure he knew all of the major languages of the lands he was expected to rule?
 
Forgot to comment on last update, but I hope this rising of the people makes future Germany a place where will of the people is taken into account more than in some other countries. I'd say I hope for evolution into parliamentary rule, but initiative for that usually comes for burghers and minor nobility, not peasants.

Regarding this update, Louis seems like a ticking time bomb. However I don't think it will evolve into civil war, more like a separatist rebellion of English parts.

What about Irish? Aren't they the third crown, but not mentioned at all?

P.S.

Did latest ACOUP post about logistics influence this update? :)
 
I wonder if this turns out to be Henri's biggest mistake in an otherwise pretty successful reign. It certainly looks like it. I can understand Henri wanting him raised in Paris, but why didn't he ensure he knew all of the major languages of the lands he was expected to rule?
I read it as more Henri can't stand the sight of the Dauphin as it reminds him of his late wife so he sent him away to Paris. Once he was there he was out of sight and out of mind so to speak, so his tutors had far more influence educating him than they would if everyone was in the same place. Henri was so busy being successful (until now) that he just didn't pay too much attention to his son. I viewed it more as more neglect as opposed to anything deliberate on Henri's part.

Now, if you want to say that Henri should have done a better job raising his son to be less French and more Triune then yes, you aren't wrong. But these things are far from logical, especially where grief and love intersect.
 
What’s the line of succession like for the triple monarchy? We know of Louis, but no siblings as far as I recall? Assume there’s plenty of cousins waiting in line.
 
I read it as more Henri can't stand the sight of the Dauphin as it reminds him of his late wife so he sent him away to Paris. Once he was there he was out of sight and out of mind so to speak, so his tutors had far more influence educating him than they would if everyone was in the same place. Henri was so busy being successful (until now) that he just didn't pay too much attention to his son. I viewed it more as more neglect as opposed to anything deliberate on Henri's part.

Now, if you want to say that Henri should have done a better job raising his son to be less French and more Triune then yes, you aren't wrong. But these things are far from logical, especially where grief and love intersect.
I agree that it wasn't deliberate and I think your explanation is plausible and likely. I really don't see Henri trying to deliberately sabotage the empire he has spent his life building. That said, deliberate or not, IMHO it was clearly a mistake and possibly the biggest one he has made in his reign.
 

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I agree that it wasn't deliberate and I think your explanation is plausible and likely. I really don't see Henri trying to deliberately sabotage the empire he has spent his life building. That said, deliberate or not, IMHO it was clearly a mistake and possibly the biggest one he has made in his reign.
Would not be the first time a king or emperor has succeeded in forging an empire only to fail in securing the succession to keep it together.
 
Are the English the dominant naval force in the triple monarchy? Could easily be a situation where they just cut off the French via the channel.
 
Seems like the Triune is heading towards a crossroads where either they’re gonna have to finally go for a full union or break up. It’s really not going to be that easy for England though, by this point I fully expect that London and the south likely speak French as much or more than they speak English as well as the majority of the elites.
 

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Seems like the Triune is heading towards a crossroads where either they’re gonna have to finally go for a full union or break up. It’s really not going to be that easy for England though, by this point I fully expect that London and the south likely speak French as much or more than they speak English as well as the majority of the elites.
so it will either be full unione with English disappearing from the maps slowly ( OTL french #1 wet dream) or divorce with... purges.
 
The Triune Army of the North, commanded by the Duc d’Orleans, has the target of Saxony, and is the larger of the two armies and has the benefit of being directly supported by Philip Sigismund, whose landholdings are in north-central Germany. At the outset it is said to muster 60,000 Triunes and 25,000 Imperials, although that may be an exaggeration. And even if true, for reasons that will become apparent, it was a total not held for long.

The Triune Army of the South, commanded by the Duke of Nemours and accompanied by the Dauphin Louis, is appreciably smaller at only 45,000 Triunes and no Imperials. Earlier expeditions in the south, such as the attack that had originally driven the Wittelsbachs from Bavaria and the more-recent attack on Austria, had been accompanied by at least some Imperial troops to add some veneer of Imperial approval. Henri, in his growing frustration with Philip and Germans in general, is finding it increasingly difficult to care about such symbolism. It’s not like the pretense was fooling anyone before anyway.
The Triunes are still putting 100k+ into the field whilst (presumably) garrisoning their gains in the last war + putting down rebellions in Western Germany? Henri's exchequer must be under quite some strain. But it also looks like Philip Sigismund is running on fumes - unless they decisively smash Duke Leopold in the north he's done.

Also, are the Irish just grabbing some popcorn and kicking back whilst the English & French eventually duke it out?
 
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