Alternate Electoral Maps

Status
Not open for further replies.
How can a legislature that large actually function?

Basically, it doesn't. Since furthermore party unity is practically 0, nothing meaningful ever happens through the Duma. There was, however, a period in the 90s with unusually strong partisanship (a ProgLib majority government and a non-useless whip for once) that permitted the creation of a 300-member upper house that can force most legislation through if it's stalled for over three months in the lower house, which means the lower house ends up only enacting apolitical or broad-support legislation.

China's legislature has 2,987 members, though China is a single-party Communist state, while that Russia is a multi-party state.

The original point was for it to be the size of the Chinese assembly (I forget its name right now). Small states brought that up to 3050.
 
Forgotten No More: Election of 1860

To describe the Federalist Party as the Party of Government was not an exaggeration. The Party could trace it's origins all the way back to the beginning of the republics history (post-Constitution) and was the only remaining political organization with such a pedigree. They had outlived the Republicans and a Federalist had sat in the White House 40 of the last 70 years - 44 if you include Artemas Ward as the first Federalist. It was, then, without a doubt, that the party's support base had become cemented by the election of 1860. It was this strong political network that gave them the popular vote in 1856, and it was that very network that would help them even as part of the party rebelled.

In truth, President Bache felt somewhat confident going into the whole ordeal. His correspondence with former President Wood had given him the understanding that he would support him come time for the Convention. When it arrived, however, Wood was mild in his address to the convention on the matter, even saying he would accept the nomination if given to him. This almost led to an inter-party coup after Wood came out with the lead in the first ballot. Now, Bache would take the nomination after the second ballot and things would work out, sure, but the fact that Wood even got that many votes in the first place showed a divided Party whose eyes weren't entirely on the President. Bache knew this and wrote so much as this in his personal journals as the election drew closer. Still, Bache had some good news and that was former Rhode Island Governor Solomon Levi's mutiny at the Federalist Convention and his declared candidacy under a so-called Patriot Party.

Caught up working hard in the capital - Bache was known by White House staff and congressional old-timers as the hardest working President of their lifetimes, meeting with congressional leaders and always trying to get things done - the President hoped that the Free American party organization would stump hard for him, as was typical of American elections, and that the people would grant him a second term.

Now the problem with the thinking wasn't that the Federalist national organization was superior with it's vast and reputable connections to news papers and national circles, although it's easy to think so. But the Free Americans, they had fire going for them. They were the rabble rousers and if they could just get enough states populations riled up for them, they could take it. No, the problem with the thinking was the national campaign tour Governor Lee embarked on. He stopped in every state save for Columbia out west, and Sauk and Wisconsin. Every where he went there were parades and the event grounds became the sites of fairs. It began in the Spring and went all the way until election day. It was a national sensation.

And President Bache did find some time to get away and do some stops himself, but he only visited his home state and New York, at which point he had to return to Washington, before taking a two week lap around New England.

Come election day, Solomon Levi's mutiny did not materialize into practical support as Vice-President Maynard, a noted member of the Unionist faction of Federalists that worked with President Bache, joined Lee in unity for the Federalist Party. All the while, the Agrarian Populists were prepping for their largest vote total in history hoping to cement themselves as the second party (or first party) of the Southern and Western agrarian states. Ultimately, the result was somewhat unexpected to some, yet all too expected to others. Robert Edward Lee would take the nation by storm likely on the back of his national tour.

Or maybe it was just his last name all along?

President Bache would retire from politics after the election, vowing to continue to do all in his power to continue to serve the country in some shape or form.

Robert E. Lee (F-VA)/Horace Maynard (F-TN) 228 EVs; 52.17% PV
Alecander D. Bache (FA-PA)/George S. Boutwell (FA-MA) 56 EVs; 28.26% PV
Henry W. Halleck (AP-LK)/Joseph Holt (AP-KY) 17 EVs; 10.87% PV
Solomon Levi (P-RI)/John Brough (P-OH) 3 EVs; 8.70% PV


attachment.php
 
It Takes Two to Tango

genusmap.php

Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Robert B. Anderson (R-TX) 273 EV

Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) 256 EV

Unpledged Electors 8 EV
 
Pandemic 1991​

I've decided to do the elections from a mini-scenario I've been dabbling with that has a Pandemic over new-years 1990-1991. The damage is just shy of causing societal collapse. Between January 1, 1991 and June 1 the US loses approximately 20% of the population before things can be declared stable.

The election is a subdued affair, George HW Bush runs on his handling of the crisis (which was about as decent as could be expected) and a need to maintain the US's global status. Bill Clinton runs on the need to focus first domestically and the introduction of massive health care reforms.

Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Former Governor Jerry Brown (D-CA) - 367 EV/55.0% PV
President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 171 EV/43.9% PV

genusmap (92.png
 
From the same series as my previous post, the 1996 election. The issues remain largely the same, though things are starting to return to normal. The Republicans run a Dole/Buchanan ticket in a campaign that be described as a second "return to normalcy" as Harding did way back when, but Clinton's measures have been popular, and the conservative baggage brought on Buchanan hurts more than helps this cycle.

One interesting thing to note is a major lawsuit filed over whether or not Congressional districts should be redrawn to reflect the death toll or not. Not all states were hit equally. In a unanimous decision, however, the Supreme Court rules that using the outdated figures is inherently better than "eyeballing" adjustments, and while the figures are clearly not perfect, they are the most legal numbers.

President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Jerry Brown (D-CA) - 303 EV/52.7% PV
Senator Bob Dole (R-KS)/Representative Pat Buchanan (R-VA) - 235 EV/46.8% PV

genusmap (96.png
 
From the same series as my previous post, the 1996 election. The issues remain largely the same, though things are starting to return to normal. The Republicans run a Dole/Buchanan ticket in a campaign that be described as a second "return to normalcy" as Harding did way back when, but Clinton's measures have been popular, and the conservative baggage brought on Buchanan hurts more than helps this cycle.

One interesting thing to note is a major lawsuit filed over whether or not Congressional districts should be redrawn to reflect the death toll or not. Not all states were hit equally. In a unanimous decision, however, the Supreme Court rules that using the outdated figures is inherently better than "eyeballing" adjustments, and while the figures are clearly not perfect, they are the most legal numbers.

President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Jerry Brown (D-CA) - 303 EV/52.7% PV
Senator Bob Dole (R-KS)/Representative Pat Buchanan (R-VA) - 235 EV/46.8% PV
That's a cool scenario! I'd be interested in seeing the next election, after the 2000 census reapportions the EVs:)
 
X-posting my MotF entry because it's part electoral map, and the rest of it is kind of needed for context. :p

The Federation

Full Size


the_federation_of_british_social_republics_by_zeksora-d9yyxo7.png

Welcome to the Federation of British Social Republics.

Nobody remembers quite what sparked the Revolution—perhaps the King (or was it Queen?) wished to assert their royal prerogatives and become an absolute monarch again, and the People responded. Perhaps Parliament, grown corrupt and bloated on the fruits of the workers’ labor, decided that it was time they stayed in power for good. Perhaps it was the lack of reform that caused the Revolution; perhaps it would have happened anyways.

Regardless of why, the Revolution occurred. Tens of thousands took to the streets. Workers threw bricks through windows and police, farmers dusted off long-forgotten hunting rifles and made use for them once more. Eventually, the soldiers themselves, perhaps frustrated at a withholding of pay from the panicking government, turned their bayonets on the bourgeoise and forced the King from his throne.

The question then, of course was one of kingship. Who would take the abandoned throne? Who would rule in Arthur’s place? It was decided (nobody knows by whom) that there would be no king, no queen. The People alone would determine the course of the Nation, and who better knew the will of the People than those who had been at the vanguard of its expression? Thus came to be the Social Republics, and the Federation, a socialist utopia under the watchful eye of the Party — the only Party.

The Federation is very quiet abroad—like its fraternal socialist comrades in the International, it espouses world revolution, but does not make any particular effort to make it a reality, unlike the Communalist French. Their main opponent is the Dominion of Canada, holding what remains of the Royal Family and often attempting to foment revolution in the Federation, which always fails, for they can never seem to quite find enough conspirators or garner enough support to finally replace the Party.

The Federation is also very quiet at home; too quiet, some might say. There is no agitation from liberal reformists wishing a new Britain, no conservatives quietly plotting a coup. Nobody is plotting anything. There is only planning, planning for the State and under the State’s direction. The State has its watchful eyes on you, always. Everything that you do in your life is for the benefit of the State, for the benefit of your fellow workers. You cannot change this. Planting a private garden? You must first acquire seeds from the State, after establishing a proper reason and motive for doing so, in triplicate. The People of the Federation resign themselves to carrying this burden, and do so with a fine British stiff lower back (upper lip was deemed too aristocratic). What else can they do?

To call the Federation and its Republics democratic would be highly misleading. Technically, yes, there are elected MFAs (Members of the Federal Assembly) and their Republic-level and local-level equivalents, but only Party members may vote, and only for Party members, and Party membership is extremely exclusive. There are factions within the Party such as the Syndicalists (in favor of a union-run state), the Greens (localists who advocate decentralization to the Republic level), the Marxists (hard-line communists who advocate a full dictatorship of the proletariat), and the Anarchist Coalition (anarchists of all stripes), but the mainstream of the Party, whose ideology is essentially just technocracy with socialist tendencies, has held a majority in the 500-member Federal Assembly since its inception, allowing it to govern permanently. Chancellors, chosen in the same manner as Prime Ministers used to be (it is assumed; nobody is quite sure), are effectively rulers-for-life, as the Party will never leave power, and very rarely takes a risk on a change.

The outside world knows little of the Federation—outsiders are rarely allowed access anywhere but the Federal District of London, and there it is still uncommon to see any but a Frenchman outside of the Foreign Quarter. Thus, their maps are still based upon pre-Revolution ones, and their knowledge of the Federation’s inner workings is little to none. And that’s just the way the Party (and thus the People, and thus the Nation) like it.​
 
That's a cool scenario! I'd be interested in seeing the next election, after the 2000 census reapportions the EVs:)

I'm plan on taking these out to 2020, and yes, alternate EV allocation will be a part of it definitely ;)

There's also a world map a few pages back in the main map thread, albeit a WIP map without a key and likely a few changes to come.
 
And continuing on to 2000. The 2000 election truly does see the return of a normal set of election year theatrics. Though popular, the people are growing a bit tired of the Democrats program to revitalize America. Many believe it's time to moderate measures and begin resuming a global role. These calls are are aided by a few late term blunders that highlight incompetence in a few executive departments. As such, it was the Republican's race to lose. While the margin was close, lackluster campaigning, perhaps in part due to being out of practice, led to a solid defeat in the end. The only state Republicans managed to swing over 96 was Florida.

Still, the message is clear. Issues are going to return in a "business as usual" fashion. Foreign affairs can no longer be ignored, especially tensions across the border in Mexico and in the former PRC. President Brown was definitely the more liberal half of the ticket on the outgoing administration, but now must face a population that wants an end to the strict economic controls that prevented total collapse.

Vice President Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 278 EV/51.1% PV
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) - 260 EV/48.3% PV

genusmap 00.png
 
And 2004. (Note: Maine is incorrectly displaying as 4, when it should be 5 in this TL)

By 2004 the fragile reconstruction was starting to be hampered by global instability. Economies were starting to get rolling again, but that only led certain groups to regain enough capacity to start using force again. Bogged down by a continuing desire for change at home, what signed President Brown's fate was the Mexican Intervention of 2003. Everyone saw the need, with order still not restored along the border, but the Brown Administration gave off an appearance of being too hesitant, and though it was far from the case, the general Democratic party line didn't appear to have an "endgame" for Mexico. All in all, Brown's leadership didn't inspire confidence, and with instability in Asia and Africa starting to threaten national security, the American people had had enough.

The Republicans also had the benefit of a trump card. Long one to stay away from politics, the mishandling of Mexico had convinced General Colin Powell to throw his hat into the ring. He promised fair, moderate rule at home and strength abroad. He stressed the need for caution, but that sometimes decisive action was needed. In choosing a running mate, Powell doubled down by selecting Senator John Kasich of Ohio. The campaign would stir some old divisions, namely splitting the African American community, but if there was one silver lining in the pandemic it was that racial tensions had been low. People had been simply too busy helping neighbors to care. The 2004 campaign would see some mud-slinging on that angle, but by and large there wasn't enough effect to make much of a difference. Any defecting elements of the Southern Strategy were offset by defections from traditional Democratic strongholds among minority groups. The overall result would be a landslide for Powell that many newscasters had not thought possible with the modern coalitions.

General Colin Powell (R-NY)/Senator John Kasich (R-OH) - 353 EV/55.7% PV
President Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Vice President John Kerry (D-MA) - 185 EV/42.3% PV

genusmap 04.png
 
And here's a quick guide to the alternate EC change. Grey is no change, red is loss, blue is gain. One seat change is 30%, two seats 50%, and 3 or more is 90%.

genusmap EV1.png
 
Carter wins 1980
genusmap.php

Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 297 EV 45.88% of popular vote
Ronald Reagan/George Bush: 241 EV 45.88% of popular vote
John B Anderson/Patrick Lucey: 0 EV 6.61% of popular vote
 
Continuing with 2008. Reminder Maine is 5 EV, but the program doesn't show it correctly.

President Powell proved widely popular in his first term. The economy continued to rebound along with his economic reforms, or despite of depending on who you ask. His keynote achievement was the assistance the US provided in stabilizing the new Mexican government, or as it turned out, governments. The separatist governments gaining official recognition (or as it turned out for the Gulf Republic, official US backing) turned traditional international relations on its head, but the pragmatist approach got results. There are lingering questions, but for the moment the decisive action has gotten Powell enough credit. Eyes are now focused on affairs in Asia and Africa, where new and old states are looking to prove themselves in the new international system.

The Democrats did not help their chances by presenting a bland slate of candidates, but to be fair taking a moderate approach worked for the Republicans. It could have given them fruits as well. In the end, a more traditional approach does sway a good deal of voters, but in a vacuum Powell's popularity is easily able to triumph.

President Colin Powell (R-NY)/Vice President John Kasich (R-OH) - 294 EV/53.0% PV

Senator John Edwards (D-NC)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 244 EV/ 46.5% PV


genusmap (08.png
 
Here's a wikibox/electoral map that I've been doing instead of homework, which I imagine coming from the same world as my Communist Confederacy World. This map shows the inciting incident for the 1893 General Strike and the May Revolution, which swept the Labor Party into power.
Some notes:
The Republican party, after losing the war and permanently splitting into two parties, the Radical and the Liberal parties, was more or less kept out of federal politics for years, allowing for the Democrats to maintain a de facto one party rule. This began to change when the Radicals coopted or were co opted by the emerging worker's movement (who co opted whom is a question historians quibble over but hardly anyone cares) So by the 1890s, the Radical-Labor, or Labor party was poised to sweep into power. They weren't able to get enough electoral votes, and thus the election was thrown to Congress, where Democrats and Liberals worked together to ensure that they stay in power. This...was unpopular.

socialist_birthing_pains.png
 
Rights of No Passage: 1996

2000

The mood of the inauguration of Tom Carper as the 42nd President of the United States on January 20, 1997 was sombre. Tsongas, whilst someone who ideological liberals and conservatives were very split on, was something of a hero to the Republican Party for an electoral landslide, their best showing in Congress since the late 1940s, and a victory against all the odds that proved their agenda was viable in and of itself, while leaking votes to more liberal and conservative rivals.

Carper's role in all this had been notably passive. Whilst he made a concerted effort to continue the policies of President Tsongas, continuing a focus on developing the American economy and urging businesses to invest in the US. He had a good reputation as Delaware's State Treasurer during the late 1970s, but there was a simple problem: Carper was nowhere near as ideologically distinctive a figure as Tsongas, and many Americans missed the late President.

This did have an upside. The Democrats badly botched their midterm campaign by presenting Carper as boring and inexperienced. The President was able to articulate this to his advantage, as Democratic voters were largely indifferent while Republicans were incensed by attacks on the policies Carper (and by extension Tsongas) represented. In a major upset, the Republicans increased their majority in the Senate and took the House with a majority of four seats (to the surprise of many, Ralph Nader's Reform Party took six seats in the House).

However, any prospect that Nader might have had to make as much headway in 2000 as he had in 1996 was snuffed out when Carper stunned the nation by picking Maine Governor Angus King as his running mate. Not only was King a radical centrist and open-minded on most issues, he'd been an Independent for seven years. Carper declared that his strategy was 'to bring about a new kind of politics for the new millennium'.

The Democrats effectively decided to fight fire with fire. Their (somewhat reluctant) nominee was Colin Powell, former NSA and four-star US Army general. Powell came with very pronounced advantages: his involvement in founding the socioeconomic rights foundation America's Promise and his successful record on military affairs made him a strong leader, and the possibility of him becoming the first African American President was a far cry from the out-and-out racism of the Democratic Party of years gone by. Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle was nominated by the Democrats for Vice President.

The contest was almost as close as 1996. Both parties played to try and capture a spirit of optimism about the future, and emphasized their 'new agenda' almost to the point of ridiculousness; a Steve Bell cartoon which depicted the two Presidential candidates as talking action figures was unsettlingly close to reality.

genusmap.php


Powell/Dashle (Democratic): 271 EVs, 48.8%
Carper/King (Republican): 267 EVs, 48.0%


The election indicated something of a seismic shift in American politics. The tight holds on their respective reasons; the North East for the Republicans, the South for the Democrats; appeared to be cracking. Whilst Dornan had won Mississippi and South Carolina by almost 50 points over the Republicans, Powell only did so by 15. Tsongas had taken New York by over 20 points over Nader and Dornan in 1996; Carper did so by just 4.

The most startling results were in Utah and the District of Columbia. The former had always been strongly conservative, but with both candidates leaving little to choose between, Carper eked out a win there by barely 1%. Similarly, the staunchly liberal District with a high ethnic minority population gave its electoral votes to Powell (a factor that also helped him sway Arizona by a wafer-thin margin), the first time a Democrat had ever won it and leaving Vermont as the only state ever not carried by the party.

These results, however, did not affect the outcome so much as the results in Illinois and Ohio. The results in Cook County, home to Chicago, were heavily split between Powell and Carper (the rather uncomfortable speculation is that the divide was racial), and it was not until a final recount on the 23rd November 2000 that the result, by a margin of only 571 votes across the whole state, was confirmed as a victory for Powell.
 
Here's a wikibox/electoral map that I've been doing instead of homework, which I imagine coming from the same world as my Communist Confederacy World. This map shows the inciting incident for the 1893 General Strike and the May Revolution, which swept the Labor Party into power.
Some notes:
The Republican party, after losing the war and permanently splitting into two parties, the Radical and the Liberal parties, was more or less kept out of federal politics for years, allowing for the Democrats to maintain a de facto one party rule. This began to change when the Radicals coopted or were co opted by the emerging worker's movement (who co opted whom is a question historians quibble over but hardly anyone cares) So by the 1890s, the Radical-Labor, or Labor party was poised to sweep into power. They weren't able to get enough electoral votes, and thus the election was thrown to Congress, where Democrats and Liberals worked together to ensure that they stay in power. This...was unpopular.

And the electoral map by itself:

[/QUOTE]

Oh damn. That's interesting shite. My one strife is that if any party's gonna split, it's gonna be the treacherous Democratic Party, who literally have had half of their party betray the US.

[quote="prime-minister, post: 12289519"][B]2000

[/B]The mood of the inauguration of Tom Carper as the 42nd President of the United States on January 20, 1997 was sombre. Tsongas, whilst someone who ideological liberals and conservatives were very split on, was something of a hero to the Republican Party for an electoral landslide, their best showing in Congress since the late 1940s, and a victory against all the odds that proved their agenda was viable in and of itself, while leaking votes to more liberal and conservative rivals.

Carper's role in all this had been notably passive. Whilst he made a concerted effort to continue the policies of President Tsongas, continuing a focus on developing the American economy and urging businesses to invest in the US. He had a good reputation as Delaware's State Treasurer during the late 1970s, but there was a simple problem: Carper was nowhere near as ideologically distinctive a figure as Tsongas, and many Americans missed the late President.

This did have an upside. The Democrats badly botched their midterm campaign by presenting Carper as boring and inexperienced. The President was able to articulate this to his advantage, as Democratic voters were largely indifferent while Republicans were incensed by attacks on the policies Carper (and by extension Tsongas) represented. In a major upset, the Republicans increased their majority in the Senate and took the House with a majority of four seats (to the surprise of many, Ralph Nader's Reform Party took six seats in the House).

However, any prospect that Nader might have had to make as much headway in 2000 as he had in 1996 was snuffed out when Carper stunned the nation by picking Maine Governor Angus King as his running mate. Not only was King a radical centrist and open-minded on most issues, he'd been an Independent for seven years. Carper declared that his strategy was 'to bring about a new kind of politics for the new millennium'.

The Democrats effectively decided to fight fire with fire. Their (somewhat reluctant) nominee was Colin Powell, former NSA and four-star US Army general. Powell came with very pronounced advantages: his involvement in founding the socioeconomic rights foundation America's Promise and his successful record on military affairs made him a strong leader, and the possibility of him becoming the first African American President was a far cry from the out-and-out racism of the Democratic Party of years gone by. Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle was nominated by the Democrats for Vice President.

The contest was almost as close as 1996. Both parties played to try and capture a spirit of optimism about the future, and emphasized their 'new agenda' almost to the point of ridiculousness; a Steve Bell cartoon which depicted the two Presidential candidates as talking action figures was unsettlingly close to reality.

[IMG]http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;6&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;25;5&GA=1;13;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=1;18;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;21;4&OK=1;8;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;23;5&RI=2;4;6&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;32;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=2;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5

Powell/Dashle (Democratic): 271 EVs, 48.8%
Carper/King (Republican): 267 EVs, 48.0%


The election indicated something of a seismic shift in American politics. The tight holds on their respective reasons; the North East for the Republicans, the South for the Democrats; appeared to be cracking. Whilst Dornan had won Mississippi and South Carolina by almost 50 points over the Republicans, Powell only did so by 15. Tsongas had taken New York by over 20 points over Nader and Dornan in 1996; Carper did so by just 4.

The most startling results were in Utah and the District of Columbia. The former had always been strongly conservative, but with both candidates leaving little to choose between, Carper eked out a win there by barely 1%. Similarly, the staunchly liberal District with a high ethnic minority population gave its electoral votes to Powell (a factor that also helped him sway Arizona by a wafer-thin margin), the first time a Democrat had ever won it and leaving Vermont as the only state ever not carried by the party.

These results, however, did not affect the outcome so much as the results in Illinois and Ohio. The results in Cook County, home to Chicago, were heavily split between Powell and Carper (the rather uncomfortable speculation is that the divide was racial), and it was not until a final recount on the 23rd November 2000 that the result, by a margin of only 571 votes across the whole state, was confirmed as a victory for Powell.

A Democratic Colin Powell. Me likey.
 
Top
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top