A Red Dawn: American Revolution and Rebirth

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Whanztastic

A successful breaking of the writer's block indeed! Very good narrative. I am sure there were more pains in collectivisation than Arnold cares to remember/share with Lenina (I like that name too. If I ever have a daughter...). I hope the Jewish immigration saved more than a few. I imagine that having a rather strong social impact, shifting the German population solidly away from Protestant/Freethinkers towards the Jewish spectrum. Then again, it seems that the new Jewish immigrants don't really follow the traditional pattern of forming insular communities, unless this one story is the exception rather than the rule, means that they will be integrated into the American fold rather more quickly.
 

TNF

Great update, Jello! I liked the narrative approach a lot, and I'm eagerly awaiting the next update. ;)
 

dave on hist

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UASR

UASR Hmmm...Sounds like something out of Hitlery er. Hillary's twisted socialist mind. She does have one thing in common with Stalin, people who have the dirt on them (Bill and Hillary) or disagree with them end up dead or moving to Canada (ew):eek:
 
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Whanztastic

dave on hist said:
UASR Hmmm...Sounds like something out of Hitlery er. Hillary's twisted socialist mind. She does have one thing in common with Stalin, people who have the dirt on them (Bill and Hillary) or disagree with them end up dead or moving to Canada (ew):eek:
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Are you suggesting the Clintons had political dissidents killed and/or deported? I hope someone other than me reports this post.

It seems like there have been several brand-new members with conservative slants who want to do nothing but bash on left and left-leaning ideologies.

This is one of the finest TLs on this site and this sort of post should stain it.
 

TNF

The Holocaust must not have been as extensive as it was otl if Lenina hadn't heard of it.
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Well, she is in Middle School, too. IIRC, we weren't taught about the holocaust until at least sixth grade.
 

TheCrow__

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Jello great update as usual really loving the TL and can't wait for this next update. And I finally discovered where your name came from lead singer of the Dead Kennedys lol. Was watching Anarchism In America and found that out. But to those who were talking about the Holocaust I agree with who ever said she is just in Middle School. By what her grandfather said and the fact they are watching a vid on it shows that it is not going to be sugarcoated. One more comment to Jello you do not know how much I wish I could live ITTL.:D
 

The Sandman

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Sean Mulligan said:
The Holocaust must not have been as extensive as it was otl if Lenina hadn't heard of it.
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Something as simple as having a place to dump the unwanted minorities probably lessened the impact. Also, since Hitler didn't go for Western Europe until later, the Jewish communities and other targets there would have had more time to flee.
 

alifeofpossibilities

The New Freedom said:
Well, she is in Middle School, too. IIRC, we weren't taught about the holocaust until at least sixth grade.
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Really? Maybe the curriculum is very different here, but I learned about the Holocaust at a very young age. I think I was in kindergarten when it was first taught to me.

Regardless, this is my favorite TL and the update, as always, was fantastic.
 

TheCrow__

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thatsmartguy said:
Really? Maybe the curriculum is very different here, but I learned about the Holocaust at a very young age. I think I was in kindergarten when it was first taught to me.

Regardless, this is my favorite TL and the update, as always, was fantastic.
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Wow they teach you about the Black Plague, the Spanish Inquistion, and AIDS too lol
 
Aelita

Aelita

The Sandman said:
Something as simple as having a place to dump the unwanted minorities probably lessened the impact. Also, since Hitler didn't go for Western Europe until later, the Jewish communities and other targets there would have had more time to flee.
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Unfortunately, that dumping policy will only apply to the Ashkhenazim (German Jews). Jews in countries occupied during WWII (including exiled German Jews), the primary targets of the Final Solution, are going to be at least as SoL as they were in OTL.
 
Plumber

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Jello_Biafra said:
Unfortunately, that dumping policy will only apply to the Ashkhenazim (German Jews). Jews in countries occupied during WWII (including exiled German Jews), the primary targets of the Final Solution, are going to be at least as SoL as they were in OTL.
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Oy vey... :(
 

Cyclone

ComradeFlyer said:
I'm a teacher in the US and we start "history" with the rise of the first hominids.
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That's nice. I was a student in the United States and we started history in 1776 (there may have been a chapter which very, very briefly covered colonization, but that's it).
 
Aelita

Aelita

Okay, so here's the dilemma. Now, I'd like to move forward with the TL, but with the way the situation is at work (I work days at a convenience store), with the level of activity and stress caused by having to deal with a months worth of rodeos and weekend fishing derbies, i'm literally too exhausted to do the write up for 1936 or some of the in-character technical literature I am crafting for the next few planned updates.

But, what I can do, while I wait for the tide to ebb, is lighter fluff stuff. And I like to give you guys the opportunity to sound off on what you'd like to see.

More Alt-AH board discussions? If so, what topics of interest? More foreshadowing or stuff on current events (i.e., 30s).

Would you like me to work on the next installment of Lenina's coming of age story?

Or perhaps something different entirely?
 

Teleology

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You've foreshadowed a bit about WWII and the modern day, more about the intervening decades (perhaps punctuated by more forum chatter) would be nice, IMHO.
 

President Al Bundy

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Jello_Biafra said:
Okay, so here's the dilemma. Now, I'd like to move forward with the TL, but with the way the situation is at work (I work days at a convenience store), with the level of activity and stress caused by having to deal with a months worth of rodeos and weekend fishing derbies, i'm literally too exhausted to do the write up for 1936 or some of the in-character technical literature I am crafting for the next few planned updates.

But, what I can do, while I wait for the tide to ebb, is lighter fluff stuff. And I like to give you guys the opportunity to sound off on what you'd like to see.

More Alt-AH board discussions? If so, what topics of interest? More foreshadowing or stuff on current events (i.e., 30s).

Would you like me to work on the next installment of Lenina's coming of age story?

Or perhaps something different entirely?
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I guess its time to present my contribution I sent to you months earlier. Motorsport fans might know the American CanAm sportscar series. Now this article deals with its equivalent, the American FreeCar Series, or just FreeCar:

American Freecar Challenge Cup (AFCC)

The American Freecar Challenge Cup, was an SCUA (Sportscar Union of America) sports car racing series from 1966 to 1982.

History

The AFCC started out as a cooperation between the SCUA and American automotive manufacturers in 1966. They wanted a racing series with cars that have no restrictions in engine capacity, aerodynamics or technical equipment. The hopes of the manufacturers were, that the techniques used in this series might be used for their production cars, as many American manufacturers faced competition by the cheaper and technologically advanced cars from Europe (In particular Germany). Thus, the American Freecar Challenge Cup was born (The "Freecar" should indeed indicate, that the cars were free from any restrictions).

The regulations were minimal, for example the engine size was unlimited (And turbo- as well as superchargers were allowed). The main idea was, that as long as the car had two seats, bodywork enclosing the wheels and met the safety standards, it was legal. The AFCC regulations became so popular, that international manufacturers such as Toyota, Nissan or Auto Union from Germany build sportscars after that regulations.

With these factors, the AFCC became quickly popular. The prize money was decent, so a lot of teams built cars for the series to partake. The cars were spectacular, and crowd attendances were high. The "Freecar" (Common abbreviation of the official name) was also the first motorsports series to get coverage on a major television network in the UASR.

But the first clouds on the horizons arrived in the mid-1970's. An economy crises forced foreign manufacturers out of the series, and even some national teams pulled the plug. Only the spendings of American car manufacturers saved the series. The SCUA also cooperated with the FIA, and introduced Group 6 sportscars in 1976. But they had much more restrictions than the old Freecars. While the interest of motorsport enthusiasts was still high, sponsors, TV, and in the end even the manufacturers lost interest in the series. By this time, the rival AMSA (American Motorsports Association) GT Championship attracted fans and manufacturers with cheaper cars, and close racing. The manufacturers went to the AMSA series, while the AFCC became a privatiers-only championship, with an average of 12 cars at every race. After the 1982 season, the SCUA pulled the plug on the series, and thus ended the 16 year old life of the AFCC series.

Notable drivers

Because Freecar was one of the most prestigeous championships in its era, many American drivers competed in this series. But international drivers competed in this series too. Notable drivers were
Chris Amon, Mario Andretti, Jack Brabham, John Cannon, Mark Donohue, Vic Elford, Masten Gregory, Dan Gurney, Jim Hall, Phil Hill, Denny Hulme, Jacky Ickx, Parnelli Jones, Roger McCluskey, Bruce McLaren, Paul Newman, Sam Posey, Peter Revson, Pedro Rodríguez, Jo Siffert, John Cordts, David Hobbs, Jackie Stewart, John Surtees, Hans-Joachim Stuck, Jochen Mass and Hans Heyer.

Technology

Still, the AFCC left a huge legacy for the automotive industry. The excessive use of turbochargers allowed American manufacturers to use this technology for their road cars. The trend went to smaller, but more powerful engines in road cars, which led to the use of these cars in rally competitions, as they were pretty fast, but still easy to drive.

The cars were pretty fast, even by today's standards. In fact, they could race faster lap times than today's Formula One or IndyCar cars.

The big disadvantage were the high costs which were ironically triggered by the involvement of the manufacturers. The teams could spend lots and lots of money, because the manufacturers would have paid anyway (Or bailed them out in case of emergency). After the manufacturers pulled out, many teams had to pull out of the AFCC too.

Manufacturers

Many private teams (Or "racing collective", as they were called in America) build cars on their own. Chapparal, McLaren, Lola or Shadow were among them. They were supported by manufacturers like Ford, Chevrolet or Chrysler. Even the manufacturers design bureaus helped the teams with designing their AFCC race cars.

But foreign involvement was also high. The Auto Union fielded several variations of their AU 917 sports prototype, that were very successful. Auto Union was also the only foreign company, that provided their Group 6 936s to local teams. Toyota and Nissan also competed with their AFCC prototypes. British manufacturers like Jaguar or BRM also planned to partake in the series, but the frosty relations between Britain and the UASR forced them to abandon their plans. British drivers would nonetheless compete in the series.
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Feel free to give me feedback for this article. Any criticism is appreciated.
 
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