A Different Russia

Jammy

Agreed i'd like to see some more of this Tl as well the confreence was very well written really enjoyed reading that :)
 

Nosb

I like the TL, although I haven't read the second page yet, but one problem. The Decembrists were named after the December revolt of the military that in your TL, didn't happen so they'd have a different name. The divisions you name with your Decembrists seem to be along the lines of Northern Society/Southern Society split. The Northern Society/Southern Society were the organizations, mainly of officers and a handful of liberal thinkers, which were behind the Decembrist uprising. The Northern Society was led by more conservative reformers (constitutional monarchists, parliamentarians and general moderate reformers who wanted a codified law system and better rule) and the more radical Southern Society (Anarchists, anti-royalists, socialists, proto-communists.) Really the division mirrors the later White vs Red Russian Civil War with the reds being way, way more homogeneous then the Whites.
 
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srv fan

По-русски говорящии-

Я думаю что я хочу писать некоторыи имя по-русски. Вы думаете что его хорошая идея, или его будет очень трудно читать и понимаю? Извините что беспокою вас, и я знаю что мой по-русски очень ужасный- я только начинаю говорить по-русски шесть месяцы назад.

Спасебо
 

srv fan

Will this somewhat "reformed" Russia have an interest in southeast Asia, or it would strictly interest itself in China, Korea, and Japan?

This forum member, for one, is interested in a Russian East Indies...
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I'll spoil the suspense. No, there is not a chance Russia is going to try to go for the East Indies.

Yeah, a more realisticly depicted conference might likely take 5-10 days to say what you have taking hours, but what the heck. You got the information across, and we didn't have to suffer through: "Then the young Hapsburg passed yet a another note, now the nineteenth, to the Prussian monarch. The new writing suggested the use of a semicolon in their mutual resolution regarding Hungary, where before there had been a comma. The ruler of Prussia signalled that more discussion would be required, and further conversations were postponed till after tea."
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Yeah, obviously it isn't how an actual conference would go, but I cut it down in the interest of brevity.

If Russia is supporting Greece here along with Britain/France, wouldn't Greece get more territory than that.
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Considering I copied the line, unaltered, from Riasonvky's history of Russia, maybe its an example of OTL not always going logically.

Anyways, hopefully an update will arrive sometime this weekend.
 

Stalker

Banned
srv fan said:
По-русски говорящии-

Я думаю что я хочу писать некоторыи имя по-русски. Вы думаете что его хорошая идея, или его будет очень трудно читать и понимаю? Извините что беспокою вас, и я знаю что мой по-русски очень ужасный- я только начинаю говорить по-русски шесть месяцы назад.

Спасебо
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Для человека, который изучает русский язык всего 6 месяцев, Вы делаете большие успехи в русском. Ошибки есть, но они не затрудняют понимания. Русский просто очень сложный язык. У Вас все получится, дружище!;)
Now, back to English... You may try spelling Russian names in cyrillics but I guess it's not quite a good idea because a majority here would simply have hard time understanding it. Just transliterate the names - IMO, it would be much better.
 

Valdemar II

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srv fan said:
Industrial Russia- 1848: The Shattering


Overview- The Revolutions of 1848 are dramatically affected by the absence of the supremely counter-revolutionary Nicholas on the Russian throne. In Russia, a limited movement by the New Decembrists arises. The middle class of the group betrays the rural in exchange for clemency and a grant of legitimacy from the Tsar. Because Constantine is busy marching the Russian Army all over his vast Empire trying to pre-empt a peasant rebellion (which does not come), he cannot send the 200,000-plus troops Nicholas sent to aid the Hapsburgs in OTL. France, Prussia, and Poland’s year goes as in OTL, meaning they cannot give much assistance either. Austrian troops are stretched far too thin to hold onto more than the core of the Hapsburg Empire. Lombardy and Venice gain independence, along with Hungary. Bohemia and the German areas are still loyal, with the Polish and Ukrainian areas somewhat contained.

Next- The aftermath of the revolutions of 1848. Look for some drama in the former Hapsburg realms (especially whether they can retain independence), continued change in Russia, and lots of other stuff. As always PLEASE give me feedback- if there are any suggestions or improvements you want to suggest, do so. I already plan to incorporate some other’s ideas into future segments of the TL. Oh, and here is a map for the situation as it stands at the end of 1848. It is ugly as shit, because I don't know how to do good maps. Perhaps some kind soul will grace this TL with half-way decent maps (HINT HINT HINT). Anyways, areas with green stripes are those still ostensibly part of the Austrian Empire, the unmarked parts are the "core", and those in red and yellow are independent for the time being.

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something like this

1 Galician
2 Transylvania
3 Banat (the area had a Romanian plurality and Germans as the largest minority, and the Germans dominated the area)
4 Slovenia and Kroatia

tilsrv.GIF
 
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