¡Por la Patria, Viva México Fuerte! A Mexican TL

Excerpt#2: French Intervention in Haiti
Again, I apologize for the long wait, these last few weeks have been one hell of a ride I tell ya, but after a couple of days of actually getting to work on the timeline I finally managed to get the next update done! I'm getting the last few bits ready, so while you all wait, here's a little appetizer to get y'all ready for the main course, lol.

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Alain Bellegarde, Emperor Napoleon III and the Haitian Intervention (Presses universitaires de France: Paris, 1995)

…with the attempted 1853 invasion of Quisqueya still fresh in their minds, as well as the collective memory of the Haitian occupation also omnipresent, Quisqueyan dictator Pedro Santana formally requested protection from Europe in an attempt to eliminate Haiti as a threat once and for all. Santana’s entreaties to Spain were treated cynically at first, but the thought of regaining a piece of its former empire seemed too tempting for Spain to forego, and with the United States preoccupied with civil unrest agreed to Santana’s pleas and annexed the whole of Quisqueya in 1856.

Napoleon III was eager to demonstrate French power, and as his reign was still new and untested, saw Spain’s move in the Caribbean as an indication to reconquer Haiti. Enthusiasm for such a venture ran high amongst many Frenchmen, and in September 1856 received the excuse needed to justify such a military intervention. Self-proclaimed Haitian Emperor Faustin issued a decree absolving Haiti of the indemnity payments initiated by former President Boyer nearly three decades earlier. With the stated purpose of forcing Haiti to resume payments, France deployed a convoy of warships to occupy Port-au-Prince, which was accomplished with relative ease, capturing the Haitian Emperor by total surprise. Faustin was quickly ousted as French troops overran the Haitian capital and surrounding countryside. Three months later in early 1857, a second larger invasion force landed near Cap-Haïtien in the north, before occupying most of the country by the end of the year.

Though French forces managed to occupy most of Haiti in a small amount of time, the occupation quickly devolved into a war of attrition. Independent holdouts remained in the northern mountains, as well as a significant portion of the Tiburon Peninsula, which proved to be formidable harbors for Haitian rebels. The total lack of a present European population like in Quisqueya put the French forces at a major disadvantage, as nearly all of the Haitian population was united in their desire to expel the French. The Spanish in Santo Domingo provided material and logistical support at first, aided by general Quisqueyan antipathy towards the plight of the Haitians. The Quisqueyans however, did not all share their dictator’s affection to the Spaniards (Santana, for his generosity and obedience was given the honorary title of Governor-General), and in 1859 ignited a revolt against Spanish rule in the Cibao region of the north, which forced to an end Spain’s collaboration in the Haitian Intervention.

By the following year much of the northern plains and mountains had been taken back by the Haitians, and under the adept leadership of General Fabre Geffrard moved to dislodge the French from Port-au-Prince. After a lengthy siege which reduced much of the capital to rubble, the scant French force that remained attempted to hold off the advancing Haitians, eventually retreating to the southern port of Jacmel, where the French organized a hasty evacuation. General Geffrard gained one final victory over the French forces at the Battle of Marigot in January 1861, even though the French had accomplished their objective to evacuate most of what remained of their expeditionary force.

The repercussions of the Haitian victory were profound, as Geffrard, the effective leader of the nation, annulled all future indemnity payments to France, which gave the Haitian economy its first significant respite since independence was first procured. Thousands of zealous Haitian soldiers, fresh from fighting the French, soon volunteered for service in Gregorio de Cortés’ Cuban Liberation Army. While the majority of the volunteers were wary of Cortés’ peculiar theology, many shared a kindred spirit with the Cuban insurgents’ desire for independence. Most of the volunteers opted to return home once Cuba gained its independence in 1865, but some remained by Cortés’ side through to the following year, when the Cuban revolutionary and his army made their historic crossing of the Florida Straits…

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Also here's this little map thingy I made, cuz maps are fun!!!

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American Civil Wars: The House collapses Inward, 1858-1862
American Civil War PART II

As promised here's the second installment of the ACW series. I have the final update started so hopefully I won't delay much next time...but I make no promises :p

American Civil Wars: The House collapses inward

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Marching through Oregon

The issue concerning Oregon’s independence took observers from both near and abroad by surprise. While all the other seceding parties involved in the Civil Wars operated with the mutual resolve to preserve slavery (or in Cuba’s case, its eradication), Oregon proved to be an exception. While some Oregonians, recent arrivals from the east for the most part, felt some inclination to join the United States, others (mainly “exiled Americans” that were forced out of Mexico in the previous decade) felt they could no longer rely on Washington—that city a continent away—to protect them. While the fighting itself began on February 22, 1858, soon after the territory voted to cut all remaining ties to the United States and become an independent republic, the origins of Oregon’s independence go back over a decade, at the conclusion of the Mexican-American War. Hundreds of Anglo settlers fled Alta California en masse following the Mexican victory, a trend which continued into the 1850’s as the thousands of post-Gold Rush Anglos residing in northern Mexico faced mass deportation episodes, in obsessive fear on the part of the Mexicans of any repeated attempts to rebel and join with the United States (both real and imaginary).[1] While some of these Anglo refugees returned east, many flooded into Oregon and formed the core of the Autonomy Party. The party, led first by John McLoughlin, then by his protégé Lansford Hastings, advocated strongly for an independent Oregon, and soon found a strong following amongst those displaced settlers.

Then in the spring of 1857, a filibuster led by disgraced Mexican General Santa Anna penetrated into the Salt Lake Valley, attaining victory after several weeks of gruesome fighting against the scant American garrison charged with defending the territory.[2] Though Santa Anna’s rule over Deseret was rather short-lived, his band of marauders managed to force an estimated 1,500 Mormon settlers out of the Salt Lake Valley, oftentimes evicting them from their homes, frequently resulting in violence. Nearly all of the displaced ventured north into the Saptin River Valley, which would grow in time to be a major settlement magnet for Mormons and non-Mormons alike. The beginning of the American Civil Wars prevented the government in Washington to react in a timely fashion, allowing the small Mexican occupying force to entrench itself further, as a mixture of Mexican volunteers and regulars trekked north over the course of the summer and autumn. Initial condemnations from Mexico City were soon followed by tacit support for Santa Anna’s military venture, and by the time an adequate American counter-offensive could be mustered the Mexicans too were ready to defend their gains.

In the spring of 1858 the Union commissioned Major General Patrick Edward Connor with the task of expelling the Mexicans from the Salt Lake Valley. In defiance of his better judgement, Santa Anna underestimated his enemy’s strength and opted to leave much of his manpower in Salt Lake City, an act which ultimately cost him his life at the Battle of Diablo Pass, east of Ogden. Command of the Mexican forces swiftly passed to Santa Anna’s highest ranking lieutenant, Miguel Negrete, bringing his army’s full strength to bear against the Americans at the Battle of Ogden, which resulted in a stalemate. Negrete managed some success, notably at the Battle of Little Mountain, though both armies made little headway over the remainder of the year, mostly harassing each other north of the Great Salt Lake. In late December Conner transferred command to Lieutenant colonel James Allen in order to subdue draft riots in the Willamette Valley. Allen proved inept enough to allow Negrete the upper hand, ultimately losing to the Mexicans north of Provo. Amid these disappointing performances by the Americans against the Southern Rebels and the Mexicans, the first rumbles of dissent became discernable as various secret pro-independence meetings were held around the New Year in Oregon City, Chemeketa and Kanamostalo.[3]

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Initial battles for Oregon's independence, 1859

General Connor dispersed draft riots in late January 1859, and after a brief stay at Fort Vancouver proceeded to march east to reengage the Mexicans. During his visit Connor instituted martial law in the Willamette Valley, prohibiting any propaganda on autonomy and in many cases jailing autonomist protesters in the streets. The worsening Civil War in the east only made life on the fringe of empire more taxing, as basic necessities became scarcer. Despite the frigid temperatures Oregon Country was a tinder box begging to be ignited. Lansford Hastings, sensing his opportunity fading away, organized an emergency session of the Oregon Legislative Assembly, and after gathering the eighteen deputies required for a quorum brought the issue of autonomy for discussion and vote (as reserved by right via the Treaty of Amsterdam). After several days of heated deliberation the Assembly voted on February 14 for total independence through a slim majority.

Without delay, street fights erupted between autonomists and the vastly outnumbered American garrison when the latter moved to detain the entire Assembly. Within days the autonomists gained control of Chemeketa, Corvallis, Champoeg and Oregon City with relative ease, before encountering stiff resistance at Kanamostalo, near the confluence of the Willamette and Columbia Rivers. The presence of Fort Vancouver on the north bank of the Columbia made autonomist control of Kanamostalo tenuous at best. By the time word of the revolt reached Washington much of southern Oregon had been taken over by the Provisional Government, now stylizing itself as the Republic of Oregon. A fuming President Seward ordered a full division under Brigadier general Philip Sheridan to march west from St. Louis and return Oregon back to the fold. The President was tired of secession on top of secession, and he would not allow rebels to threaten the U.S.’s only link to the Pacific.

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Cuban insurgents conduct a cavalry charge

To his utter horror Seward was already, by the summer of 1859, forced to contemplate the severing of the proverbial cord with Cuba. The Union war effort had become vastly overstretched, and on the island itself the target for the combined firepower of Confederate troops and Cuban insurgents. By November Union control was reduced to little more than Havana, which in the end was evacuated in lieu of making a last stand, in a clear attempt to conserve manpower. Confederation forces swiftly filled the vacuum and the state government soon followed, relocating from Port Jefferson back to resume rule of the island from Havana. No longer deterred by the presence of the United States, Confederation forces made significant strides in reclaiming much of central Cuba over the course of 1860. The sudden string of successes lay in part with Confederate collaboration with Anglo partisan groups such as Crocker’s Cut-throats, an organization known for its brutality towards Cuba’s Black population.[4] The Confederation’s fortunes finally took a turn for the worse that autumn, at the Battle of Buenaventura, which saw General Thomas Jordan’s army crushed by an army of former slaves and free black volunteers nearly three times his own army’s size, led by the charismatic Gregorio de Cortés, who’s syncretic Christian “Liberation” theology attracted large swathes of Black Cubans. Cortés had offered his services to the Provisional Cuban government back in 1858, but was rudely snubbed, and subsequently created an independent black Cuban army led by Cortés himself and aided by his supporters such as John Brown.

The primary conflict centered in eastern North America demonstrated some gains for the beleaguered Union through 1859, mainly in Missouri and central Kentucky though inroads were made into northern Tennessee as well, with General Frémont’s capture of Nashville in January 1860. The invasion of Louisiana even seemed to bear fruit, with the fall of Natchez later in the spring. Once again however, the fronts seemed to slow down, as Generals Lee and Jackson remained strong on the defensive. As Election Day 1860 loomed both President Seward and Congress Republicans feared losing control of the government or worse, the opposing Democrats agree to a ceasefire. The Democrats themselves were in utter disarray, as both war and peace factions competed to get their preferred candidate nominated. The Republicans, for their part, were rife with factionalism as well, mostly from radical elements within the party that felt Seward had failed to prosecute the war hard enough, as well as his reluctance to commit to emancipation. Ultimately the radicals relented and fell behind Seward, fearful that altering the government would hinder the war effort. They did so however on the condition that Seward would follow through on the party’s platform to free all of the nation’s slaves. The Democrats too, in the end presented a united front to stand a chance at the polls, nominating War Democrat and former General George B. McClellan for President and Senator Augustus C. Dodge as his vice-Presidential nominee.

Democrats across the North were led to believe that they might be able to wrest power from Seward as the year progressed without a single major Northern victory to show for it. Nevertheless, the North finally got its long coveted victory, or rather victories, in late September with breakthroughs at Murfreesboro, Tennessee and Jonesboro, Arkansas, with the latter opening the way for the eventual capture of Memphis several weeks later. This provided Seward with the boost needed to beat McClellan at the polls, combined with the War and Peace Democrats ineptitude to cooperate in the crucial final weeks of the election. Despite winning the presidency, the war-wariness felt amongst the general population had a profound impact on the makeup of the House of Representatives, with the Democrats gaining a slim majority, subsequently catapulting Ohio Representative (and senior Democrat) George H. Pendleton to become the new Speaker of the House. An ardent Anti-war Democrat, he proved to be a notable thorn in Seward’s side. Keeping true to his promise, Seward formally announced at his Inauguration that he would issue an executive order to emancipate all the slaves in the territories still in rebellion to the United States, which would come into effect on April 1.

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Bushwhacker terrorism in the west

As the Civil War entered its fourth year without a clear resolution, many on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Line grew increasingly radical. The previous year had seen exceedingly brutal episodes of guerrilla warfare throughout Kansas, Missouri, Illinois and Indiana, with infamous groups such as Quantrill’s Raiders and Bloody Bill’s Bushwhackers wreaking havoc over much of the Plains. In early 1861 the guerrilla war escalated, with rival Northern partisans forming in order to inflict retaliatory strikes against the Confederates. Between March and June nearly a dozen raids were conducted across Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi and Alabama, with an estimated 400 dead as a result. Though the Confederation had initially supported such groups to operate in the Western Theater (a decision they quickly came to regret), such partisan activity was illegal in the North, resulting in a strong military backlash against said groups. The Union military managed to subdue the partisans rather quickly, but that did not bring an end to the civil unrest brewing on both sides of the Mason-Dixon.

For nearly four years both the Union and Confederation governments had exercised their constitutional prerogative to suspend the writ of habeas corpus in the event of rebellion (or as the Confederation labeled it, invasion), which resulted in the detention of several thousand people on charges such as sedition and treason. Radical Democrats (also known as Copperheads) such as Clement Vallandigham, well known for his sympathies to the Confederation and public statements made against the Seward administration and the war was arrested by Union soldiers on June 8. Vallandigham’s arrest incited protests across Ohio against the specter of “military despotism.” At the insistent persuasion by Attorney General Abraham Lincoln, Seward agreed to release Vallandigham from prison on the condition he be banished to the Confederation, fearful that the leader of the Copperheads become a martyr to the multitudes of radicals. The number of detainees continued to grow however, and only inspired radicals to riot in various cities both North and South during the summer of 1861. The army, regardless of affiliation, managed to subdue these threats in good order, but enmity remained, and the general consensus gradually began to shift towards finding a swift resolution to the fighting. Cuba was all but lost to the Union, Oregon hung on only by a thread, and the European Powers continued to pressure Seward to agree to a negotiated settlement and recognition of the Confederation. Seward would have none of it however, flatly stating he would not "accept anything short of an unconditional surrender from Robert Toombs himself.”

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Arrest of Clement Vallandigham

In early October tensions between the United Kingdom and the United States arose off the Oregon Coast, as a British steamer sailing near Vancouver Island, the HMS Grappler, was engaged by the U.S. Navy, resulting in the loss of one American vessel at sea while the damaged Grappler limped south to Yerba Buena for repairs. The Grappler Incident provoked a stronger Royal Navy presence in the waters near Oregon, as well as demands for a formal apology from the American government, something that Seward was obstinate to follow through, only doing so at the strong urging of his Cabinet. Despite these setbacks, the Union managed to gain a major victory at the Battle of Knoxville in November, eliminating the last threat to occupied Kentucky as well as fortifying Union control of northern Tennessee. The Union war effort was struck a severe blow only several weeks later, when General Hiram Grant was mortally wounded at the Battle of Pittsburg Landing in southern Tennessee, an event which many historians consider as a major factor in the Union’s failure to capture Vicksburg the following year. For all the despair this would bring to the Union, it pales in comparison to the events of Black Friday.

In early December Seward, accompanied by Vice-President Adams and several members of Congress traveled to Massachusetts and Connecticut to engage with Abolitionist leaders. On their return to Washington Seward and his retinue stopped in New York City, staying at the luxurious Astor House in Manhattan. On the evening of Friday December 13, a gang of Confederate agents, in collaboration with sympathizers within the city planted dynamite underneath the area of the hotel Seward was in. The resultant explosion (enhanced by the nearby presence of the building’s gas supply) completely destroyed the hotel, killing the vast majority of its occupants, including the entire Presidential entourage. The whole Union was stunned at what had transpired, soon followed by anger at the utter low the Confederation was willing to sink to steal away victory. After several days of exhaustive man hunts, several of the conspirators were captured, including their leader, Kentucky colonel Robert Martin. Swift military tribunals were held for the conspirators, and on December 22 all nine were executed at Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn. As per the rules of presidential succession, President Pro Tempore of the Senate (and former Democratic vice-Presidential nominee) Augustus Caesar Dodge became acting-President of the United States, with confusion instantly setting in as the nation was untested in succession procedure.[5] The issue quickly split between party lines, as Democrats argued for Dodge to be inaugurated as the Fourteenth President of the United States, while Republicans called for new elections to be held as soon as possible. After several weeks of heated debate the issue was ultimately shelved for fear that snap elections would destabilize the country further, and on February 4, 1862 Dodge was formally inaugurated in a solemn ceremony in the Capitol Building.

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Fourteenth President of the United States, Augustus Caesar Dodge

Despite vehement calls to do the contrary by Republicans and War Democrats, President Dodge agreed to negotiate with the Confederates under British mediation. Several weeks of intense deliberations ensued and on March 31, the United States and Confederation of South America agreed to an armistice, and for the first time since 1857 the guns fell silent. The British encouraged both sides to conclude a formal peace treaty, though neither Dodge nor Toombs dared to try. The armistice allowed both North and South to “lick their wounds” as well as deal with their respective revolts in Oregon and Cuba. Several divisions were soon routed west to punish the Oregonian rebels for aiding the traitorous Southerners and compromising the United States’ only link to the Pacific. Richmond for its part ordered several thousand troops south to defeat the insurgency in Cuba, invading through Guantanamo Bay in an attempted pincer movement with the aid of troops in the west of the island. The Confederates managed to gain control of a small pocket on the southern coast, but the hardy rebels of the eastern highlands were prepared with an ace of their own—Haitian volunteers, fresh from fighting the French for five years in Napoleon III’s failed bid to reconquer France’s old Caribbean colony.[6]

The Haitian government was the first nation to recognize the Cuban Republic, and the support provided in manpower allowed Cortés’ Cuban Liberation Army and the Republican Army led by Ignacio Agramonte (both now working in unison) to overcome the Confederate invasion of southern Cuba, and crush it completely in late 1862. The following year the Cuban rebels would capture and raze Port Jefferson, threatening Havana for the first time, and more importantly a move that convinced the Mexican government to explicitly recognize and aid the rebels. It was the beginning of the end for Confederate Cuba, and for the likes of Gregorio de Cortés a vindication of his revolution. In private, he confided in his ally John Brown that as their work on the island approached its conclusion, work needed to begin on the next phase of his revolution. For both men, the war was only just beginning, as Cortés himself remarked,” three million men, women and children suffer the ravages of human bondage…we must continue the fight John, the lord commands us north!”

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Notes:

[1] Lol what can I say, I love irony :D
[2] I forgot to do this the last time, so here's a link to the relevant post.
[3] Chemeketa is TTL Salem, Kanamostalo is TTL Portland.
[4] Timothy Crocker (OTL was one of Walker's lieutenants in Nicaragua) basically becomes another Quantrill fighting in Cuba.
[5] Harrison never dies a month into his term (which was already different to begin with) so Tyler never sets the precedent so to speak.
[6] Lol see the previous post.
 
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I liked this, even though I have some doubts. Militarily, United States reduced western territories don't change much the balance.

Technically, unless the office of President Pro Tempore of the Senate is vacant, Pendleton as Acting President is unconstitutional or illegal.

Concerning the presidential succession, up so far, it is settled by the Presidential Succession Act of 1792 which sets, in the event of President and Vice President removed (ie dead or impotent), the President pro Tempore of Senate shall be sworn in, pending presidential elections to be organized in the first December which follows, or the next if that's within the first two months of vacancy.
The Speaker of the House was still third, after the President pro tempore.

President Pro Tempore and House Speaker would be removed from the succession line in the Succession Act of 1886 to put Cabinet Member before them, along special presidential election being suppressed.

That wouldn't be until the Succession Act of 1947 that the House Speaker and President Pro Tempore would be reinstated after the Vice President, but with the former on second place and the latter on third place.


EDIT: Excerpt from the Succession Act of 1792; source : https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Unit...e/Volume_1/2nd_Congress/1st_Session/Chapter_8

Sec. 9. And be it further enacted, That in case of removal, death, resignation or inability both of the President and Vice President of the United States, the President of the Senate pro tempore, and in case there shall be no President of the Senate, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives, for the time being shall act as President of the United States until the disability be removed or a President shall be elected.

Sec. 10. And be it further enacted, That whenever the offices of President and Vice President shall both become vacant, the Secretary of State shall forthwith cause a notification thereof to be made to the executive of every state, and shall also cause the same to be published in at least one of the newspapers printed in each state, specifying that electors of the President of the United States shall be appointed or chosen in the several states within thirty-four days preceding the first Wednesday in December then next ensuing: Provided, There shall be the space of two months between the date of such notification and the said first Wednesday in December, but if there shall not be the space of two months between the date of such notification and the first Wednesday in December; and if the term for which the President and Vice President last in office were elected shall not expire on the third day of March next ensuing, then the Secretary of State shall specify in the notification that the electors shall be appointed or chosen within thirty-four days preceding the first Wednesday in December in the year next ensuing, within which time the electors shall accordingly be appointed or chosen, and the electors shall meet and give their votes on the said first Wednesday in December, and the proceedings and duties of the said electors and others shall be pursuant to the directions prescribed in this act.
 
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Ooh ^^ Hearing about the role of Mormons in the Oregon conflict, Seward being assassinated, Cuba encouraging slave revolts in the Confederation (and to a certain extent the United States?), Haiti getting a break for once after waging a successful war against a great power, a tense ceasefire...

Gosh, I love this update!
 
This... is... Awesome!

Well, looks like things will get different than we anticipated. Now it seems Oregon will be the one to go down and the CSA will go free... Which means another opportunity for my dream scenario: Mexico vs the CSA!

And I love what you've done with Cuba, it's AWESOME!
 

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An exciting set of events!

Cuba pushes forth, Haiti rallies around after expelling colonization yet again, the Quiqueyanos get rid of that fool Santana earlier than OTL, and America enters a renewed phase in war.

Very much looking forward to what comes next.
 
Sorry for the lag guys, I've been busy the last few days since my dad got let go of his job. We've been scrambling to both find new ones (I still have mine but it won't cut it with bills), and it's not been a very pleasant week here in sunny California for me and the fam overall. With that said I don't know when I'll finish the next update, I haven't had a chance to work on it, but once life gives me a damn break I'll get to it! ^^

Excellent... That was a thrill-packed update.

Also, Santa Anna gonna Santa Anna I guess :p

Gracias :)

I liked this, even though I have some doubts. Militarily, United States reduced western territories don't change much the balance.

Technically, unless the office of President Pro Tempore of the Senate is vacant, Pendleton as Acting President is unconstitutional or illegal.

Concerning the presidential succession, up so far, it is settled by the Presidential Succession Act of 1792 which sets, in the event of President and Vice President removed (ie dead or impotent), the President pro Tempore of Senate shall be sworn in, pending presidential elections to be organized in the first December which follows, or the next if that's within the first two months of vacancy.
The Speaker of the House was still third, after the President pro tempore.

President Pro Tempore and House Speaker would be removed from the succession line in the Succession Act of 1886 to put Cabinet Member before them, along special presidential election being suppressed.

That wouldn't be until the Succession Act of 1947 that the House Speaker and President Pro Tempore would be reinstated after the Vice President, but with the former on second place and the latter on third place.


EDIT: Excerpt from the Succession Act of 1792; source : https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Unit...e/Volume_1/2nd_Congress/1st_Session/Chapter_8

Damn, I'm a little embarrassed. I was in We the People in high school, I should of known this! :eek: If anything though it doesn't change much in the way of the story, it just so happens the President Pro Tempore TTL is also a Dem. I'll go an fix the update to reflect the changes.

Ooh ^^ Hearing about the role of Mormons in the Oregon conflict, Seward being assassinated, Cuba encouraging slave revolts in the Confederation (and to a certain extent the United States?), Haiti getting a break for once after waging a successful war against a great power, a tense ceasefire...

Gosh, I love this update!

Thankies! :D I enjoyed making this update since now I can get to work on the conclusion, all of these loose ends so to speak will be wrapped up...and as for that question (I feel I'm giving too much away here lol) remember as far as the USA is concerned the Confederation is still in rebellion. Cortés for his part sees both governments as two sides of the same coin. I'm still not done making a mess of things XD

It's back! Awesome update! :D

Go Orgeon, win!

Go Oregon!

Thanks guys! :) I'm rooting for Oregon as well, their most trying hour is still at hand.

This... is... Awesome!

Well, looks like things will get different than we anticipated. Now it seems Oregon will be the one to go down and the CSA will go free... Which means another opportunity for my dream scenario: Mexico vs the CSA!

And I love what you've done with Cuba, it's AWESOME!

Many thanks!!! :D Don't count Oregon out, the fight's not done yet! ;) As for the CSA, they're only in the eye of the storm. A more apt description of what's to come is CSA vs Everyone else XD Mexico will be joining in on the fun of course (I knooow you guys were beginning to think whether or not this was still a Mexican TL lol). Also I have to agree, I love a good Mexico vs CSA scenario, especially where Mexico does some serious pwnage.

Consider me impressed, Arkhangelsk. Well worth the wait. :cool:

Thanks so much Dan!! That means a lot :)

Yes..

This is going out of hand, like the Sengoku Jidai. :p

Haha in my moments of writer's block, reading up on that period would help me out (among a few others).

Good updates, Arkhangelsk!:)
Pendleton won't win an election if he tries to run in the next one.

Thanks Archangel :) Most definitely, he pretty much became the most hated guy in America by doing that. He won't be winning any elections anytime soon.

An exciting set of events!

Cuba pushes forth, Haiti rallies around after expelling colonization yet again, the Quiqueyanos get rid of that fool Santana earlier than OTL, and America enters a renewed phase in war.

Very much looking forward to what comes next.

Thanks man! Lol I never realized both our homelands share a crazy and hated dictator named Santa Anna/ Santana. :D Hopefully I can deliver a good update with the finale of this arc.
 
It seems to me that the best way to destabilize the south is to leave Cuba and Florida to their own devices, while sending an envoy to the Comanche saying that in return for something like guns or food or gold, they'll give the Comanche carte-blanche to raid to their hearts content, so long as they stay out of Louisiana. Then when the North re-invades, they can use the additional forces in Texas to crush any raids and double-cross the Comanche at their leisure.
 
Mexico should take some Southron heat off the Cubans and send an expeditionary force to assist them. Not one "officially" sanctioned by the Mexican government but perhaps an army of sympathetic volunteers commanded by a charismatic, popular Teddy-esque military figure to assist their Cuban brothers in their fight for liberation. Or send a couple of divisions to the border between the Confederation and Mexico and make noise about seizing their part of Tejas so they won't send their entire army to Cuba.
 
It seems to me that the best way to destabilize the south is to leave Cuba and Florida to their own devices, while sending an envoy to the Comanche saying that in return for something like guns or food or gold, they'll give the Comanche carte-blanche to raid to their hearts content, so long as they stay out of Louisiana. Then when the North re-invades, they can use the additional forces in Texas to crush any raids and double-cross the Comanche at their leisure.

Hm interesting...are you referring to the US double-crossing the Comanche though? I haven't gotten to it quite yet (I shall however with the update following the end of the ACW), but the Comanche will have a very different relationship between Mexico and the United States TTL. I think I touched on it very briefly in my previous Mexico updates, but for all intents and purposes Comanchería's relationships between the two North American powers are very different from OTL. The Comanche aren't full allies with the Mexican's quite yet, but they're headed in that direction, as well as more concessions granted towards them as the leading hegemonic power among the region's natives. Remember, they managed to join the winning side in Mexico's own little civil war a while back. ;)

Mexico should take some Southron heat off the Cubans and send an expeditionary force to assist them. Not one "officially" sanctioned by the Mexican government but perhaps an army of sympathetic volunteers commanded by a charismatic, popular Teddy-esque military figure to assist their Cuban brothers in their fight for liberation. Or send a couple of divisions to the border between the Confederation and Mexico and make noise about seizing their part of Tejas so they won't send their entire army to Cuba.

Hehe all in good time my friend ;) Interesting that you bring up a "charismatic, popular Teddy-esque military figure," it just so happens I have one man in mind for the task. Needless to say I won't have him dying of typhoid fever like he did in real life. The Mexican's have been biding their time over the course of the American Civil War (not counting Santa Anna's foray in Oregon) for the prefect chance to kick the Americans while their still down, so to speak.
 
Hehe all in good time my friend ;) Interesting that you bring up a "charismatic, popular Teddy-esque military figure," it just so happens I have one man in mind for the task. Needless to say I won't have him dying of typhoid fever like he did in real life. The Mexican's have been biding their time over the course of the American Civil War (not counting Santa Anna's foray in Oregon) for the prefect chance to kick the Americans while their still down, so to speak.

Oooh, I know who this is!! Looking forward to the update. BTW I am considering writting a reboot on my TL and wanted to know your thoughts on few topics PM to discuss.
 
Oooh, I know who this is!! Looking forward to the update. BTW I am considering writting a reboot on my TL and wanted to know your thoughts on few topics PM to discuss.

Haha indeed you do my good man, I loved what you did with him in your own TL. :) Sure thing! I'll PM you asap, I'd love to hear what you have in mind.
 
I'd be kinda funny if Mexico began taking chunks off the CSA, maybe retaking Texas or gobbling up Louisiana.

As an unrelated note, rereading the earlier chapters of the timeline, I find it quite interesting how the ideas of Big Government vs Small Government are suggested in both Mexico and the USA.

In the United States, the conservatives always advocated a smaller government with more independence to the states. While the liberals where the ones who sough to create a bigged Federal government.

In Mexico, on the other hand, the Federalists advocate for the small government, while the conservatives tend to champion an ultra-centralized government without a federal structure.

It's really an interesting contrast if you ask me.

Also... jycee, you're alive!!
 
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