pope

  1. TheWitheredStriker

    AHQ: The Papal States keeps its exclaves in France, what happens in 1870?

    Temporarily putting potential butterflies aside (though I doubt this PoD is going to change too much before 1870), I’ve recently been wondering what would happen if the Papal States still controlled Avignon and the Comtat Venaissin when the Italians capture Rome. Let’s suppose that, at the...
  2. Collondi

    AHC/WI: the Kingdom of the Lombards takes Rome

    Sometime between the kingdom’s founding and their OTL conquest by Charlemagne, create a scenario in which the Lombards take over the city of Rome, and the Byzantines are unable to reconquer it. How does this impact the development of the Lombards? Would they centralize more? What happens to the...
  3. GameBawesome

    WI: Henry Benedict Stuart elected Pope?

    Henry Benedict Stuart was the son of James Francis Edward Stuart and Brother of Charles Edward Stuart "Bonnie Prince Charlie", and all of whom were of the deposed House of Stuart after the House of Hanover. Like his father and brother, he was a Jacobite, and but wouldn't see any action like...
  4. Heaven's Thunder Hammer

    WI: Pope Urban II lived to 1101?

    This is in reference to my own First Crusade Timeline, where Jerusalem was conquered in March 1098 vs July 1099. Let us say for sake of argument, that this energizes Pope Urban II to live just another year or two. What kind of changes would he make vs Paschal II? I am specifically interested in...
  5. The Gybson Boy

    All Popes after 1903 are conservative

    The XX century in the Catholic Church presented great changes when it comes to the ideological question of each pope, starting a seesaw between liberal, moderate and conservative popes, first in 1903 the disputed election of the conservative antimodernist Pius X took place, followed by the...
  6. Ryker of Terra

    Pro-Axis, pro-Nazi, pro-fascist Pope

    I would like to explore the possibility of an openly pro-Axis/pro-Nazi/pro-fascist Pope during WW2. I tried to brainstorm about who could become this Pope. It would have to be some clergyman with preexisting radical right-wing beliefs that would support these forces once he gets elected by the...
  7. GameBawesome

    WI: Pope Alexander VI lived to the age of 82?

    Pope Alexander VI, also known as Rodrigo Borgia, was the Pope between 1492 until his death in 1503. He was infamously of the House of Borgia, being the one to make it prominent in the Papal States and was the father of Cesare Borgia and Lucrezia Borgia. His reign as pontificate was infamously...
  8. AHC: Socialist Pope

    Obviously to get there we'd need several different pods before hand (socialists don't try to secularize, Mussolini never takes power, the Papacy still controls Rome, etc), but assuming that all the necessary events were to have happened, were there any candidates for Pope in the late 1930's who...
  9. kasumigenx

    DBWI: William Blythe III does not enter priesthood and become the pope

    How do we prevent William Blythe III from becoming a priest and the pope? I don't remember Mr. Blythe's pope name. Would he try in politics. I remember the Americans were celebrating him as the first American pope.
  10. QuinnMallory

    Sabaton's "The Last Stand", if Martin Luther had called for a more aggressive approach

    Original: Alternate: In the old Unholy See Of the corrupted Christianity The seat of power was in danger There's a host of a thousand swords With Charles the Third, Germany's lords Their grand crusade will pave their path to salvation Then the 189 Unknowing servants of Satan Protecting the...
  11. Vitalis

    Byzantines reconquer southern Italy and Rome by 1100, how does Christendom develop from there?

    Let's just assume that the above happens. It isn't important how it happens. Just that the Byzantines succesfuly reconquer Sicily, and then go about and expand into southern Italy, up to Rome during the Macedonian era. How would Latin Christendom develop? Papacy as an independent power worked...
  12. How much power can the Papacy gain?

    How much power can the Papacy gain, so that Europe resembles more like a. The caliphates of the Middle East b. Ancient China with the importance of religion there (the Confucians?) Something along those lines where the Pope has much more political power. What is the upper limit, and how could...
  13. HammerofWar

    AHC: Assassination of Pope Alexander VI

    Alright, from a recent book I've been reading, Pope Alexander VI wasn't exactly what you're looking for in a Pope today. He and the Borgia family had a stranglehold on the Catholic hierarchy and he wasn't above committing or allowing whatever sin he so chose. My challenge to you is, with a POD...
  14. GenerousLizard

    WI: Pope John Paul II got killed on the 13th of May 1981

    Often attributed to his papacy are a few collapses of dictatorial systems all around the globe and he played a major factor in the downfall of the soviet union and communism in europe as well. As history tells us, Pope John Paul II survived the assassination attempt in May 1981, but he was...
  15. AltoRegnant

    DBAHC: Make The Bishop of Rome A Political Figure

    OTL, after the fall of Rome in 476, while the Goths had the northern portion, the Patriarch of Rome quickly contacted the Eastern roman empire and asked for their protection. While they were there they also took southern italy, just in case. However, this ended any ideas that the spiritual...
  16. Italy in the Migration Period – No Pope, No Christianity, No Islam

    I have a challenge for you that may require a somewhat liberal approach to butterflies. The main focus in this one is Italy during the Migration Period but in a world where Christianity (and consequently Islam) never took hold. Let’s imagine that Christianity rises in the first-century as yet...
  17. GauchoBadger

    AHC: Permanent Western Schism

    With a PoD after 1380, how can we tinker enough with the events of the Western Schism (in which there were two, then briefly three, Popes competing for supremacy over the Catholic Church) so that there's a long-lasting shattering of the Catholic Church in Europe over regional, national, and...
  18. GameBawesome

    WI: Catholic World shatters in the 16th century

    What if, a string of Popes in Rome that are so corrupt, so incompetent, and does something so stupid (Like maybe making the Roman Papacy hereditary) that they shatter the view of the Roman Papacy. Later when the Protestant Reformation happens, the Catholic world just shatters, and New Antipopes...
  19. GameBawesome

    WI: Cesare Borgia becomes Roman Emperor

    Based of this time line https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/cesare-borgia-a-restored-rome-timeline.410232/page-6#post-14261329 and base off this map on Deviantart https://www.deviantart.com/maonsie/art/AH-Italy-1506-533029442 What if Cesare Borgia never lost support from the Pope...
  20. Teriyaki

    Constantine and Bishop Galasius Endorse a More Inclusive Form of Christianity - 496 AD

    So this past weekend I watched a very interesting documentary entitled "The Female Disciples of Jesus." It featured historians Joan Taylor and Helen Bond as they went through Israel looking for clues as to the female disciples of Jesus. I highly recommend you watch it if you are interested in...
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