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  1. Does surviving Ottoman empire lead to a peaceful middle east?

    In an ATL where Ottoman empire survives and thrives (either in a no world war or central power victory scenario) how much more peaceful would the middle east be? I'm thinking specifically regarding a world without Saudi arabia and the Israel/Palestine conflict, both of which could be avoided...
  2. Syncretic Ottomans?

    Turkic and Christian dynasties frequently married across religious lines from the time of the Seljuks all the way until the rise of the Ottomans. Rustam Shukurov in Harem Christianity sheds some light on this during the Sultanate of Rum. These women remained Christian and were allowed to...
  3. What if India focused Ottomans from Suleyman onwards?

    The POD is that after Selims successful conquest of Mamelukes Ottoman state puts emphasis on Expanding into Middle East and towards India with the ultimate goal being to gain control of Indian and Indonesian trade/territory. Basra and various Red Sea ports are used as bases and locals are allied...
  4. GameBawesome

    AHC: Ottoman-rule outside the Ottoman Empire

    The House of Osman, or the Ottoman Dynasty is famously known to have ruled the Ottoman Empire. Having a total of 36 Sultans and ruling from 1299 to 1923, the Ottoman Dynasty is one of the most significant dynasties in world history. However, one thing to note is that, at least from I read, the...
  5. Basileus_Komnenos

    AHC: 18th Century Bourbon Egypt

    Supposing that France manages to come out of the Eighteenth Century in a stronger military position and manages to conquer Egypt how would things go? Prior to the Revolution France setup a commission detailing the feasibility of taking Egypt and/or the Levant from the Ottomans. France here...
  6. TheWitheredStriker

    WI: Bohdan Khmelnytsky accepts Ottoman suzerainty? (Ottoman Ukraine/Cossacks)

    Quoting the much-maligned Wikipedia: I'm aware that the Cossacks weren't major fans of the Turks, but for the sake of a thought exercise, let's suppose that the Cossack Hetmanate becomes a Turkish vassal without too much trouble. What are the effects on Ukraine's and Russia's developments as...
  7. Alternate History Scenario: Albania isn't conquered by the Ottoman Empire but instead it's under Venetian Control.

    I just want to possibly start a forum for a timeline in which the Ottomans never conquer Albania, but Albania is under control of the Republic of Venice. In this scenario I would think that the boundaries of Venetian Albania would be around its modern day borders. I would be interested to see...
  8. PC/WI - Russians enact the Duhamel Plan (Invasion of India during the Crimean War)

    The Duhamel Plan was the proposed Russian invasion of India during the Crimean War. It is… ambitious to say the least. The idea was to threaten the British-controlled India by invading through either Central Asia or Persia. The invasion force would consist of nearly 30,000 Russian soldiers...
  9. pls don't ban me

    more successful Second Tarnovo Uprising

    While checking the various revolts made by Bulgarians against the ottomans i stopped on the second Tarnovo Uprising. while composed by less man, it's main cause of failure is the premature start. The rebellion, led by Rostislav Stratimirovic failed because only 4000 people gathered and as i...
  10. WI Ottomans collapse in Great Turkish war of 17th century

    What if Ottomans collapsed in Great Turkish war of 17th century. Louis XIV doesn't intervene and start the nine years war and Holy league takes Constantinople and with the largest sources of troops i.e., Europe gone and local governors declare independence who will takes which province ? will...
  11. Sultan Süleyman does not kill his firstborn son

    During Suleiman's Persian campaign, his army halted in Ereğli for a while. While Süleyman's army was in Ereğli, Rüstem Pasha made an offer to Mustafa to join his father's army. At the same time he warned Suleiman and persuaded him that Mustafa was coming to kill him. Mustafa accepted the...
  12. GameBawesome

    Discussion: Who had the WORST claims to being the successor of the Roman Empire?

    There is a great debate and discussion on who the successor to the Roman Empire is. From the Holy Roman Empire, to the Ottomans, to the Russians, it stems the points of culture, language, lineage, legality, religion and location, on who truly is the successor to the Roman Empire... This isn't...
  13. Ottomans take Vienna in 1683, Louis XIV as Holy Roman Emperor?

    I've seen it mentioned in books on the matter that Louis XIV was aspiring to the position of Holy Roman Emperor and would likely have thrown is hat in the ring had Vienna fallen to the Ottomans. The idea was that this would've gravely weakened the position of the Habsburgs. How likely is it...
  14. GameBawesome

    WI/AHC: Ottoman Swahili Coast

    Challenge: With a POD between the 15th Century to the 17th Century, have the Ottoman Empire break out of the Red Sea and Persian Gulf, defeat the Portuguese in the Indian Ocean, and sail further down the coast of East Africa, and dominate the Swahili City-States. Now, it doesn't have to be...
  15. WI: Ottomans keep going West, not East?

    So I've been reading lots of Ottoman history recently and it seems post-Mehmed II it seems there was a gradual shift away from the 'Ghazi' Sultan concept, where the Imperial modus operandi was to wage war against the non-believers and expand the Dar-al-Islam, and towards the goal of becoming the...
  16. GameBawesome

    WI: No Battle of Lepanto

    Context: The Battle of Lepanto is said to be one of the greatest Victory of Europeans over the growing Ottoman Empire in the 16th Century. It is pointed to be the decline of the Ottomans, which isn’t really true, but we’ll get there. The Holy League failed to capitalize on that victory, and in...
  17. GameBawesome

    WI: Hungary doesn't get absorbed into Austria

    In OTL, Ferdinand I, future Holy Roman Emperor, had a claim to the Throne of Hungary, as he was the Brother-in-law of Louis II of Hungary, died in 1526. The Habsburgs were contested by Hungarian nobles backed by the Ottomans, but eventually, they took full control of all of Hungary, and...
  18. MittleGittle

    A Byzantine Trade Republic?

    How could the Byzantines with their 1450 Territories become a Trading Republic like Genoa and Venice? How would this affect history, if at all?
  19. WI: Ottomans march to Buda before fall of Belgrade

    Belgrade was main fortress protecting southern border of Kingdom Hungary. It was able to withstand major Ottoman attacks in 1440 (especially that siege is worth to mention-Belgrade's defenders survived, despite being left completly on their own, as Hungary was in anarchy after death of Albert...
  20. AltoRegnant

    DBWI: Why Didnt "Nationalism" Take Off?

    So I was digging around some weird ideologies for my timeline, and I found this one called "nationalism," basically the gist of it is that people who are linguistically, culturally, and ethnically similar should unite under their own state. Like, a german empire other than the HRE or a slavic...
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