Zweites Deutsches Kaiserreich-Germany under the DNVP

Prologue: 1923
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Did the Munich Beer Hall Massacre lead to the DNVP's rise?
Article from November 12th, 1993



Many of the conditions that lead to the rise of the Deutschnationale Volkspartei, or German National People's Party (DNVP), can be traced back to the failed coup by the so-called "Nazi Party" lead by would-be tyrant Adolf Hitler. In the aftermath of the Great War; nationalist, anti-semitic and populist sentiment was sweeping Germany.

The humiliating defeat that the Deutsches Kaiserreich suffered at the hands of the Allied Powers was signed into law by the Treaty of Versailles in 1920. Almost immediately after, the anti-semitic "stabbed in the back" myth began spreading like wildfire throughout the more nationalistic members of German society, blaming their loss on Jews, Bolsheviks and "unpatriotic" citizens.

A staunch believer in this myth was Adolf Hitler, a former German Army soldier of Austrian birth who resided in Munich following the end of the conflict. The short-lived far-right Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or German Worker's Party, (DAP) followed by the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or National Socialist German Worker's Party, was quickly growing in number between 1920 and 1923 and grew to be a major political force in Munich.

Despite his initial orders to infiltrate the DAP, Hitler eventually rose to an association of nationalist parties known as the Kampfbund. By 1923 the organization had 15,000 armed members of its armed wing, the Sturmabteilung. Late September of 1923 saw the regional Bavarian government declare a state of emergency as the Kampfbund grew in number. State Commissioner Gustav Ritter von Kahr announced a ban on meetings planned by Hitler and his cronies, which lead to panic amongst the NSDAP.

Hitler decided him and his allies had no choice but the overthrow the German government and establish a dictatorship by force, lest their support base bleed away to the growing German Communist movement. Inspired by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini's seizure of power, he decided to take drastic action.

It came on the 8th of November. Whilst Kahr was giving a speech to 3,000 people at the Bürgerbräukeller, the Kampfbund marched on the venue. Shocked onlookers were suddenly staring down the barrel of a machine gun set up by the SA. Kahr and several others were forcibly taken as hostages to backrooms, where their fealty was demanded at gunpoint.

Other Nazi leaders were seizing positions all across the city, and it seemed like the short lived German Republic would be coming to an end. Hitler gave a speech to the crowd present, and against all odds, seemed to completely win them over despite holding them at gunpoint just minutes before.

Into the late hours of the evening the co-conspirators gave speeches after speeches filled with anti-semitic vitriol and blame over the November Armistice. The Nazis eventually allowed the crowd and even Kahr and his associates to leave, a critical mistake in their plans.

The early hours of the morning the first casualties arrived as SA militants exchanged gunfire with the Reichswehr. All across the city the Kampfbund were attempting the seize weapons and ammunition, prepping for revolution or even possible civil war. It wasn't working however, as the Reichswehr were successfully defending the majority of their positions.

The next day, it was obvious their plans had failed. In one final desperate act, Hitler and former General Erich Ludendorff lead a march of 2,000 nationalists to seize the Bavarian government. Their plan failed, and what happened next sealed the fate of the "Nazi" movement. At the Odeonsplatz, a large square in central Munich, government forces were already waiting.

Shots rang out, and the nationalist march was routed. Over fifty members of the march were gunned down in what was later called the Munich Beer Hall Massacre, including the wannabe tyrant Hitler and General Ludendorff. Around twelve Reichswehr personnel were also killed by Nazi counter fire.

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Adolf Hitler, April 20th 1889-November 9th 1923

The death of Hitler quickly saw the Nazi movement crumble, with most of its members moving either to the other nationalist parties present in Germany or even the Communists. The other conspirators were hunted down and arrested in the following days, although some would later be released by the DNVP government. Many historians today ponder if history would have taken a different course had Hitler been successful in his coup attempt.

The unrest in Bavaria made the outside world aware of German's inner turmoil for the first time, and helped give credence to the eventual far-right rise in Germany and the return of the Kaiser. Despite having little to do with the DNVP, many historians believe this event to be the catalyst in the start of their ascension to power later during the 1930s.
 
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Gonna be interesting. Alfred Hugenberg was a rather unlikely candidate for power, so I wonder if this victorious DNVP went with another leader during its 20s leadership struggles who kept the party united.
 

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Why are there so many Reichswehr officers killed? There may be a few officers killed but the majority of the casualties should fall on enlisted soldiers. In addition, what are the police doing during the 'massacre'?
 
Why are there so many Reichswehr officers killed? There may be a few officers killed but the majority of the casualties should fall on enlisted soldiers. In addition, what are the police doing during the 'massacre'?
Yeah, it should be all personnel combined. Fixed
 
Gonna be interesting. Alfred Hugenberg was a rather unlikely candidate for power, so I wonder if this victorious DNVP went with another leader during its 20s leadership struggles who kept the party united.
After reading Fritzche's Hitler's First Hundred Days, Hugenberg was frankly a clown. He only really kept political relevance through bombastic showmanship and being a mouthpiece of the von Papen government, which actually leads me to my suggestion- one thing the von Papen government could do, in absence of the NSDAP, is hijack the DNVP from Hugenberg and tone it down a little.

The problems with the DNVP is that it often overplayed its hand with its Prussian and Imperial nostalgia. Its Anti-Semitism was a fairly common political norm across the contemporary German Right Wing, but it often drew on too many negative memories of the shortcomings of the Imperial regime, and often espoused vicious Anti-Catholic propaganda, which irked the Catholic von Papen and alienated the Center and Right Wing Catholic parties. However, if Hugenberg is knocked out of the picture, and von Papen tones down the party to something that's more of a generic, cozy-nostalgia based right-wing movement to appeal to upper-middle class Germans, he could very well pull off another term in power.
 
This guy was leader of the DNVP for a while and moved towards working within the Weimar structures while remaining a monarchist, and left the party in 1930 after Hugenberg took over. Maybe he'd take a comparatively moderate tack if the DNVP actually wins a Reichstag election while he's in charge.
 
This is going to be very interesting

I’m always a fan of Hohenzollern restoration timelines though it’s hard to find a realistic way to make it work. Hitler dying is probably the best POD for this
 
This is going to be very interesting

I’m always a fan of Hohenzollern restoration timelines though it’s hard to find a realistic way to make it work. Hitler dying is probably the best POD for this

Hohenzollern restoration is pretty difficult but Hitler's death indeed helps. But another problem was actually Hindenburg. He was monarchist but wanted restore old Kaiser when others wanted crown prince Wilhelm. And even he wasn't that great guy for that.
 
Adolf Hitler, April 20th 1889-November 9th 1923
That very good TL !

But i got issues with this
The DNVP was small party who survived by Alfred Hugenberg financial support and never manage to become big player in Parlament.
i curious how DNVP become major political party in this TL, (you need Joseph Goebbels)
Other issue life in Netherlands, former Kaiser Wilhelm II. he refused that his family involved in Politic of Weimar Republic

Some info about Alfred Hugenberg one of richest German of his time.
he made fortune as chairman of banks, mines and armament industry during 1908-1918.
after WW1 he starte build up his Hugenberg-group, buy up companies like,
major Publishers, press services and agencies (Telegraphen), advertising agencies, correspondence services, film companies.
Like UFA, who were after fiasco of Fritz Lang Metropolis, in big financial problems.
in 1930s Hugenberg-group own 50% of Germany media !

Hugenberg used his empire as Propaganda Tool for his own political goals,
he was extrem Nationalist , extrem antisemitic, anti communist, despised the Weimar Republic and was fanatic Monarchist.
During WW1 he proposed ethnic cleansing of occupied areas and to settle Germans there, what inspire certain Hitler...
 
Like UFA, who were after fiasco of Fritz Lang Metropolis, in big financial problems.
If you keep some inflation, that could very well be avoided.
German movies in the early to mid-twenties were very expensive, but usually made enough money abroad to pay all the expanses, especially due to the weak Reichsmark.
That time was over, when Metropolis was released. So the Ufa can survive, without a sell out to Hugenberg.
 
That very good TL !

But i got issues with this
The DNVP was small party who survived by Alfred Hugenberg financial support and never manage to become big player in Parlament.
Well, that's not quite true, they reached all the way up to 20% of the vote in 1924 - which, in the Weimar era, was quite considerable. However, that was under the nominal leadership of the more pragmatic faction who accepted the republic in practice and cooperated with governments in an anti-SPD block, and that dissuades a full takeover of the country which the TL seems to imply so far.

The DNVP didn't *have* to be a Hugenberg-reliant party, there was plenty of finances to be found from the Landbund, or industry associations - but those interests in principle wanted the DNVP to be a pragmatic right-wing party who accepted the Republic and focused on containing socialists rather than needless destabilization, the last thing they wanted was another 1923, which was simply unacceptable for the equally prominent far-right wing, so it's an extremely difficult dilemma for them in any Germany TL.
 
After reading Fritzche's Hitler's First Hundred Days, Hugenberg was frankly a clown. He only really kept political relevance through bombastic showmanship and being a mouthpiece of the von Papen government, which actually leads me to my suggestion- one thing the von Papen government could do, in absence of the NSDAP, is hijack the DNVP from Hugenberg and tone it down a little.
This is what Brüning tried in the 1930 election by placing his bets on the moderate splinter off the DNVP, the Konservative Volkspartei, who were intended as a Brüning-supportive party of conservatives dissatisfied with Hugenberg - but it utterly failed, its showing was effectively nonexistent in spite of the big names that joined it (even the Lion of Africa). There simply wasn't a stomach for centre-right movements in Germany at that time - aside for Zentrum, who are very specifically Catholic.
 
This opens so much foreign policy possibilities like; Germany continuing, or even incresing, its support of the KMT government in China, how the technological cooperation with the Soviets develops, the Polish question (wich depending of the radicals is at least back to the 1914 borders), which way the rest of Central Europe goes (I think Hungary might approach Italy more in exchange for getting their coastal territory from Yugoslavia), etc. Also this government maybe could have a chance to renegotiate Versailles, like being autorized to build subs again but only for export orders, gradually increasing their military capabilites.
 
Part 1: The DNVP's rise 1924-1928
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Echoes of the Kaiser: The DNVP's early victories
Essay by unnamed college professor, 1985
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Many historians believe the Deutschnationale Volkspartei was inevitable, but evidence shows that the party that came to rule Germany under the Second Empire period very nearly slipped into irrelevancy before it could even get off its feet. The post-Great War German Republic, or Weimar Republic as some call it, was unstable and suffered many failed putsches, or uprisings during the 1920s, including the failed coup attempt in Munich that resulted in the death of nationalist figure Adolf Hitler.

The DNVP had first been elected to the Reichstag in January 1919, winning a modest 44 seats at a time when the German people had just thrown off the monarchy. A majority of the parties' seats actually came from the regions bordering what was to become Poland. Another election held eighteen months later in June 1920 saw the right-wing party grow to become the third largest in the legislature, only behind the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) or Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands and and an even more leftward leaning splinter of the SPD.

May 1924 was to be the party's first real test, not long after the uprising of Hitler and his Nazis. The DNVP under party chairman Oskar Hergt rose to become the largest party in the Reichstag albeit nowhere near large enough to hold a majority with 247 required compared to their 108. Their victory had nearly been thwarted by a small startup party attempting to continue the legacy of the "Munich Martyrs", known as the National Socialist Freedom Party (NSFP) or Nationalsozialistische Freiheitspartei, but this party failed to gain traction as the Nazi movement continued to crumble. As it was, the DNVP narrowly defeated the SPD in the popular vote, and had the National Socialists had a unifying figure like Hitler they could've siphoned away crucial votes. Despite making up the largest party however, the DNVP was still thwarted by a minority coalition of centrist parties under Chancellor Wilhelm Marx. By far the largest share of votes for the Monarchists came from Prussia and the eastern regions, compared to the west that tended to favor the left.

However, the reign of Hergt as the leader of the Reichstag's largest party was short-lived, as his support for the controversial Dawes Plan turned his own party against him. The Dawes plan was an agreement between the Weimar Republic and the reigning powers of Britain and France to end occupation of the industrial Ruhr Valley in exchange for Germany's war reparation payments to be heavily staggered. Hergt, who was a comparatively moderate, was replaced by the right-wing Kuno Friedrich Viktor von Westarp.

von Westarp had been a conservative legislator during the war and a staunch advocate of unrestricted submarine warfare. The post-war revolution saw him resign from parliament and work in the business of right-wing news papers but soon he returned to office as one of the founding members of the DNVP. Initially, he worked in tandem with the most nationalist, far-right members of his party. He had even helped to lay the groundwork for the failed Kapp–Lüttwitz Putsch of 1920, albeit he had since moderated somewhat since returning to office.

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Kuno Friedrich Viktor von Westarp, Chancellor of Germany

The Reichstag saw yet another election take place that same year, and again the DNVP increased its vote share, rising to 124. von Westarp made a crucial decision in the aftermath, deciding to abandon the party's anti-republican tendencies and agree to work within the framework of the Weimar Republic. He entered into a coalition with the formerly ruling centrists, becoming chancellor albeit with a heavily restrained mandate.

After the end of his time as chancellor, Wilhelm Marx attempted to run for President in the 1925 election to succeed the late President Friedrich Ebert, but he was thwarted by Great War military leader Paul Von Hindenburg.

von Westarp's chancellorship was a tumultuous time, as Germany saw street battles between government forces, communists and ardent nationalists. The anti-semitic "stab-in-the-back" myth continued to perpetuate in German society, fueling anger as Germany still reeled from its humiliating defeat. von Westarp angered some of the more far-right elements of his party by trying to work with the situation Germany had rather than push for an immediate monarchical restoration.

In 1925 negotiations began between Germany and the former Entente on the Reich's ascension into the League of Nations. Many of von Westarp's own party members were furious, especially media tycoon and party financier Alfred Hugenberg. Hugenberg was an ardent nationalist and monarchist who wished to see a dictatorship of Junkers or German nobility aligned with industrialists rule with a restored monarchy as figurehead similar to Benito Mussolini's autocracy in Italy. Hugenburg had formerly shouted at the moderates of the DNVP on the floor of the Reichstag during the Dawes Plan, stating that any legislator that voted for it should be expelled from the party.

On December 1st, 1925 the Locarno Treaties were signed in Switzerland and saw Germany begin ascension into the League of Nations in exchange for Germany's acceptance of the newly formed Central and Eastern European states. Allied troops withdrew from the Rhineland shortly after, and Germany became a formal member of the League in 1926. This was seen as a betrayal by the nationalists of the DNVP, many of whom threaten to pull their support for Chancellor von Westarp. Behind closed doors, von Westarp pleaded with party members telling them it was only temporary. The Chancellor would be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1926, a controversy which has hung over the committee to this day with many demanding it's rescinding due to von Westarp's later actions.

Hugenburg was unconvinced, with his full intent turning to unseat von Westarp and become Chancellor himself. von Westarp outsmarted the monarchists in 1927 when he failed to renewed the Law for the Defense of the Republic or Republikschutzgesetz. The hard right had believed that by pressuring him into renewing it would result in the ardent monarchist party members to finally commit to leaving the party and collapsing his coalition.

The 1928 election came at last, and many held their breath as they expected the DNVP would surely be defeated in the polls. But it did not come to be. By refusing to cave to monarchist demands, von Westarp had managed to hold to power, only losing a few seats. Neither the SPD or the liberals could govern without the DNVP, and again he became Chancellor. Hugenburg was furious, announcing he would attempt to have von Westarp removed as Chancellor. However he was unsuccessful, and soon announced his resignation from the Reichstag, instead wanting to focus on a grassroots campaign of hard-right monarchism outside of republican government.

By the end of 1928, the DNVP had solidified itself as a major political force in Germany, a standard conservative right party, albeit the plank to restore a member of the House of Hohenzollern still remained. Ironically, it was the defeat of the most vocal far right members of the party that lead to the monarchy's eventual restoration only a few years later. Of course, the DNVP and von Westarp did not remain a republican, center-right party heading into the 1930s but that is a topic for another time.

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HOOVER DEFEATS SMITH, SMITH NARROWLY TAKES NEW YORK
New York City newspaper headline, November 7th 1928

BREAKING NEWS: Herbert C. Hoover, Republican candidate for President manages to thwart Democratic challenger Alfred E. Smith! Results coming in from across the nation have identified Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover as President-Elect, taking 399 electoral votes compared to Democratic candidate, New York Governor Al Smith who received 132. The campaign saw harsh accusations thrown at Governor Smith, including accusing him of taking orders directly from the Papacy! Nonetheless, our beautiful state was carried by Governor Smith, the first win for a Democratic candidate in New York State since President Wilson. With a booming economy and nationwide fame from his lead role in the response to the massive flood in Mississippi last year, it should be no surprise that President-Elect Hoover has secured his place as America's 31st President.

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While I like the idea and story so far shouldn't it be the Third German Empire, as the 1871-1918 one was allready seen as the Second German Empire?
 
While I like the idea and story so far shouldn't it be the Third German Empire, as the 1871-1918 one was allready seen as the Second German Empire?

Perhaps they want deny existence of Weimar Republic as horrible era and see restored kaiserreich being same as 1871 - 1918 one. Hitler called his empire as Third not Fouth Reich since he discounted Weimar Republic. So perhaps monarchists do same.
 
While I like the idea and story so far shouldn't it be the Third German Empire, as the 1871-1918 one was allready seen as the Second German Empire?
Third Empire sounds too much like OTL.

For an in-story explanation, I assume, that the HRE simply does not count, as the DNVP will establish a very anti catholic regime and want nothing to do with a Roman Empire
 
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