WJB Victory in 1896

Although very unlikely, it wasn't impossible for that to happen, so what if he had flipped a few states and won the election? What would be the impacts on economics, race relations, foreign policy (Especially the Spanish-American War) and the 1900 Election?
Does that butterfly away the Progressive Era, instead replacing it with a Populist Era?
Or does Progressivism still comes to dominance, just later?
 
Philippine independence recognized, later they became some kind of neutral country like weighing in different interests and powers, using the USA as like a counterbalance to Japanese, British, French,German, Dutch influence, vice versa. Also 2m Filipinos not dead due to directly and indirectly American actions.

They can be like the USA's main supplier of Tobacco, coffee, sugar, coconuts and other products if lucky

Hawaii stays independent, and others.
 
Philippine independence recognized, later they became some kind of neutral country like weighing in different interests and powers, using the USA as like a counterbalance to Japanese, British, French,German, Dutch influence, vice versa. Also 2m Filipinos not dead due to directly and indirectly American actions.

They can be like the USA's main supplier of Tobacco, coffee, sugar, coconuts and other products if lucky

Hawaii stays independent, and others.
This election really was pretty important....
 
This election really was pretty important....
Im not really knowledgeable about stuff, mainly my expertise is at the Philippines, a bit of Hawaii and lat am but assuming that most major things went through that would happen, aside from the annexation of Hawaii and the brutal illegal war of the Americans in their Philippine misadventure being not happening
 
Im not really knowledgeable about stuff, mainly my expertise is at the Philippines, a bit of Hawaii and lat am but assuming that most major things went through that would happen, aside from the annexation of Hawaii and the brutal illegal war of the Americans in their Philippine misadventure being not happening
That means a lot less US interventionism around the world...
 
That means a lot less US interventionism around the world...
It seems like it, also emphasising on soft power instead, using American dollars to win other country and put them in their sphere mainly dollar diplomacy. Which is alot better than invading them
 
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It seems like it, also emphasising on soft power instead, using American dollars to win other country and put them in their sphere mainly dollar diplomacy. Which is alot better than invading them
I mean that's pretty much how it happens today IOTL
 
I've had a few posts on aspects of a Bryan victory:

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(1) https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...6-presidential-election.486191/#post-20393816
"When the inflammatory propaganda for a war with Spain swept the country, Bryan (not yet a pacifist, one must remember) enthusiastically waved a Cuban flag at a Jeffersonian banquet , declaring that the United States ought to intervene for Cuban independence. It was generally recognized that intervention meant war, which the administration was still trying, nominally at least, to avert." Merle Curti, Bryan and World Peace (1931), pp. 116-117

"The activity of William J. Bryan about that time was quite significant and, in view of his stand afterwards for peace, is well worth recalling. While the struggle between the Administration and the conservative element on one side, with the Democrats and the insurgent Republicans n the other, was at its height Mr. Bryan went to Washington to attend one of the many Jefferson banquets which occur in that city. His speech had more reference to free silver and the Chicago platform than anything else, but he did talk about Cuba, and waved a Cuban flag amidst the greatest enthusiasm. He asserted that the independence of Cuba should be recognized and that the United States should intervene. This, of course, meant war. Everybody knew it meant war, and this was at a time when the national administration was bending every effort to secure an adjustment by peaceful means. But Mr. Bryan lived up to his profession. When war came he went out at the head of the 3rd Nebraska regiment and was as ready to do his duty as any other man. He was sent forward with the regiment to a southern camp, and if Spain had not yielded after the blows by land and sea at Santiago, he might have made a military reputation as did the man who was his rival in the public eye for twenty years.

"The speech which Bryan made at the banquet was alluded to in the debates in the Senate. One Democratic senator said that the voice of Mr. Bryan was the command of six million Democrats who had voted for him in 1896, which caused Senator Hale to remark, sarcastically, that he had noticed that the Democrats took their orders from their lately defeated candidate." Arthur Wallace Dunn, From Harrison to Harding, (1922) vol. 1, pp. 236-7. https://books.google.com/books?id=zLknAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA236

I think it is pretty clear that there would still have been a Spanish-American War if Bryan had been elected. Neither Bryan nor McKinley wanted war but they both insisted that Spain grant independence to Cuba--and this meant war, because it was not something the Spanish government was willing to do.

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(2) https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...6-presidential-election.486191/#post-20386396
Here's an old soc.history.what-if post of mine (sorry for links that no longer work):

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(1) Assuming that Bryan does succeed in instituting free silver (whether a
narrowly elected Bryan could get it through Congress is an open question)
the best discussion of the likely economic effects is by Noel Maurer (now
of Harvard Business School--one of the few economists who has ever
contributed to this newsgroup) at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.history.what-if/msg/19c1be1c62862260

He agrees with me that Bryan would be introducing free silver at the wrong
time (as I put it, "There was a case for it throughout the long, generally
deflationary period between the 'Crime of 1873' and 1896. But now with
the cyanide process and the discovery of gold in South Africa, the
Klondike, etc., gold production was increasing, and free silver would only
add to inflation.") but thinks it would be only mildly inflationary, and
probably would not harm the economy (though he acknowledges that there is
some danger of loss of investor confidence). So I doubt *very* much that
Bryan is going to extend the depression "all the way to 1903." And that
puts the idea that he will be a one-term president in some doubt--he may
be able to claim some credit for the recovery: even though *we* know it
would have happened without him, all the voters of 1900 would know was
that there was a depression under the conservative gold-standard Cleveland
and there was a recovery under the "radical" Bryan.

(2) The notion that Bryan would have objected to the Spanish-American War
as "imperialism" is a confusion between the war itself and one of its OTL
results--the acquisition of the Philippines. Many people (in the
Bryanite silver camp and elsewhere) favored the former--regarding it as a
just war for the liberation of Cuba--and opposed the latter. Bryan would
have favored an independent Philippine republic--though of course he could
support US naval bases there (and in Cuba). As Bryan's career as
Secretary of State after 1913 showed, his opposition to a formal colonial
empire for the US didn't necessarily mean that he opposed all US
intervention in places like the Caribbean.

(3) Not enough attention is usually given to Bryan's likely domestic
policy in areas other than free silver. As I noted at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.history.what-if/msg/b989f95239596484

"[W]hile it is certainly true that Bryan and the Democrats concentrated on
free silver in the 1896 campaign, one should not forget that the
Democratic platform--while of course not as radical as the Populists'--was
by no means restricted to free silver. It called for an income tax and for
'the enlargement of the powers of the Inter-State Commerce Commission and
such restrictions and guarantees in the control of railroads as will
protect the people from robbery and oppression,' and denounced high
tariffs, 'government by injunction,' and "[t]he absorption of wealth by
the few, the consolidation of our leading railroad systems and the
formation of trusts and pools.'
http://projects.vassar.edu/1896/chicagoplatform.html

"Some comments on the Chicago platform from conservatives:

"'No wild-eyed and rattle-brained horde of the red flag ever proclaimed
such a specific defiance of law, precedent, order, and government' was the
comment of the *New York Mail*...'Considering the platform,' declared C.
Ellery Anderson of New York, 'it may be as well that a revolutionist like
Bryan stands upon it. We want them with red flags so there will be
provocation for shooting them down.' (*Literary Digest,* Vol. XIII, July
18, 1896, p. 357.)" Philip Foner, *History of the Labor Movement in the
United States, Volume II* (1955), p. 336. Foner, a Communist, gives the
Chicago Platform the Red Seal of Approval, proclaiming it 'progressive.'
(p. 333).

"It's important to remember this because it goes against the widespread
belief that the Populist support for Bryan was put over by 'conservative'
Populists who believed in free silver as *the* panacea. And it may help
to explain the enthusiastic support for Bryan by what some might consider
an unlikely source--Eugene V. Debs (although, interestingly, even Debs, in
his campaign tour for Bryan, put a heavy emphasis on free silver)."

Of course, once again, the question is to what extent Bryan could get
these "radical" measures through Congress. Perhaps more railroad
regulation and some procedural safeguards in the use of labor injunctions
in federal courts would pass. There might be some strengthening of the
Sherman Anti-Trust Act. The Democratic platform pretty much acknowledged
that the tariff couldn't be lowered as long as the Supreme Court decision
invalidating the income tax stood, but the death of Stephen J. Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Johnson_Field would eventually give
Bryan a chance to make the Court a bit less conservative. In any event,
presumably the *increases* in the tariff in OTL with the Dingley Act would
not have been enacted.

It is true, though, that while both Bryan and the Democrats were in
principle in favor of many reforms other than free silver, they
concentrated heavily on that last issue in 1896, and Bryan might have
spent a disproportionate amount of his energy as President to getting it
enacted, to the detriment of other reforms.

(4) Bryan is notorious for sharing the white South's attitudes toward
African Americans, though as I note at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.history.what-if/msg/4a22984a42f06a6c he
wasn't as racist in 1896 as he would be later. But in any event it is
hard to see how African Americans (other than some federal patronage
employees) would fare much worse under him than under McKinley. The
southern states would have continued with segregation, disfranchisement,
lynchings, etc., no matter who was in the White House.

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(3) https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...6-presidential-election.486191/#post-20393196

Quintuplicate said:
The Hawaiian Republic would be permanent.

Why? Bryan specifically distinguished between the annexation of Hawaii and of the Philippines:

"The Hawaiian Islands are nearer to the Western than to the Eastern Hemisphere, and their annexation was urged largely upon the ground that their possession by another nation would be a menace to the United States. When objection was made to the heterogeneous character of the people of the islands, it was met by the assertion that they were few in number. In the opinion of those who favored the annexation of Hawaii, the advantages to be gained from a strategical standpoint outweighed the objection raised to the population. No argument made in favor of the annexation of the Hawaiian Islands can be used in support of the imperialistic policy. The purchase of Alaska removed one more monarchy from American territory and gave to the United States a maximum of [and with a minimum of inhabitants.

"In the forcible annexation of the Philippines our nation neither adds to its strength nor secures broader opportunities for the American people." https://books.google.com/books?id=rCsWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA133

Also, see Kendrick A. Clements, William Jennings Bryan and Democratic Foreign Policy, 1896-1915: "On June 14, just before entering the army, he spoke out against imperialism, but in July of 1897 he had at least tacitly assented to the Trans-Mississippi Congress' resolution calling for the annexation of Hawaii." https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...116.0.0.0...126.vQRVZTmviiU#spf=1585530074675
 
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I've had a few posts on aspects of a Bryan victory:

***

(1) https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...6-presidential-election.486191/#post-20393816
"When the inflammatory propaganda for a war with Spain swept the country, Bryan (not yet a pacifist, one must remember) enthusiastically waved a Cuban flag at a Jeffersonian banquet , declaring that the United States ought to intervene for Cuban independence. It was generally recognized that intervention meant war, which the administration was still trying, nominally at least, to avert." Merle Curti, Bryan and World Peace (1931), pp. 116-117

"The activity of William J. Bryan about that time was quite significant and, in view of his stand afterwards for peace, is well worth recalling. While the struggle between the Administration and the conservative element on one side, with the Democrats and the insurgent Republicans n the other, was at its height Mr. Bryan went to Washington to attend one of the many Jefferson banquets which occur in that city. His speech had more reference to free silver and the Chicago platform than anything else, but he did talk about Cuba, and waved a Cuban flag amidst the greatest enthusiasm. He asserted that the independence of Cuba should be recognized and that the United States should intervene. This, of course, meant war. Everybody knew it meant war, and this was at a time when the national administration was bending every effort to secure an adjustment by peaceful means. But Mr. Bryan lived up to his profession. When war came he went out at the head of the 3rd Nebraska regiment and was as ready to do his duty as any other man. He was sent forward with the regiment to a southern camp, and if Spain had not yielded after the blows by land and sea at Santiago, he might have made a military reputation as did the man who was his rival in the public eye for twenty years.

"The speech which Bryan made at the banquet was alluded to in the debates in the Senate. One Democratic senator said that the voice of Mr. Bryan was the command of six million Democrats who had voted for him in 1896, which caused Senator Hale to remark, sarcastically, that he had noticed that the Democrats took their orders from their lately defeated candidate." Arthur Wallace Dunn, From Harrison to Harding, (1922) vol. 1, pp. 236-7. https://books.google.com/books?id=zLknAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA236

I think it is pretty clear that there would still have been a Spanish-American War if Bryan had been elected. Neither Bryan nor McKinley wanted war but they both insisted that Spain grant independence to Cuba--and this meant war, because it was not something the Spanish government was willing to do.

---

(2) https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...6-presidential-election.486191/#post-20386396
Here's an old soc.history.what-if post of mine (sorry for links that no longer work):

***
(1) Assuming that Bryan does succeed in instituting free silver (whether a
narrowly elected Bryan could get it through Congress is an open question)
the best discussion of the likely economic effects is by Noel Maurer (now
of Harvard Business School--one of the few economists who has ever
contributed to this newsgroup) at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.history.what-if/msg/19c1be1c62862260

He agrees with me that Bryan would be introducing free silver at the wrong
time (as I put it, "There was a case for it throughout the long, generally
deflationary period between the 'Crime of 1873' and 1896. But now with
the cyanide process and the discovery of gold in South Africa, the
Klondike, etc., gold production was increasing, and free silver would only
add to inflation.") but thinks it would be only mildly inflationary, and
probably would not harm the economy (though he acknowledges that there is
some danger of loss of investor confidence). So I doubt *very* much that
Bryan is going to extend the depression "all the way to 1903." And that
puts the idea that he will be a one-term president in some doubt--he may
be able to claim some credit for the recovery: even though *we* know it
would have happened without him, all the voters of 1900 would know was
that there was a depression under the conservative gold-standard Cleveland
and there was a recovery under the "radical" Bryan.

(2) The notion that Bryan would have objected to the Spanish-American War
as "imperialism" is a confusion between the war itself and one of its OTL
results--the acquisition of the Philippines. Many people (in the
Bryanite silver camp and elsewhere) favored the former--regarding it as a
just war for the liberation of Cuba--and opposed the latter. Bryan would
have favored an independent Philippine republic--though of course he could
support US naval bases there (and in Cuba). As Bryan's career as
Secretary of State after 1913 showed, his opposition to a formal colonial
empire for the US didn't necessarily mean that he opposed all US
intervention in places like the Caribbean.

(3) Not enough attention is usually given to Bryan's likely domestic
policy in areas other than free silver. As I noted at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.history.what-if/msg/b989f95239596484

"[W]hile it is certainly true that Bryan and the Democrats concentrated on
free silver in the 1896 campaign, one should not forget that the
Democratic platform--while of course not as radical as the Populists'--was
by no means restricted to free silver. It called for an income tax and for
'the enlargement of the powers of the Inter-State Commerce Commission and
such restrictions and guarantees in the control of railroads as will
protect the people from robbery and oppression,' and denounced high
tariffs, 'government by injunction,' and "[t]he absorption of wealth by
the few, the consolidation of our leading railroad systems and the
formation of trusts and pools.'
http://projects.vassar.edu/1896/chicagoplatform.html

"Some comments on the Chicago platform from conservatives:

"'No wild-eyed and rattle-brained horde of the red flag ever proclaimed
such a specific defiance of law, precedent, order, and government' was the
comment of the *New York Mail*...'Considering the platform,' declared C.
Ellery Anderson of New York, 'it may be as well that a revolutionist like
Bryan stands upon it. We want them with red flags so there will be
provocation for shooting them down.' (*Literary Digest,* Vol. XIII, July
18, 1896, p. 357.)" Philip Foner, *History of the Labor Movement in the
United States, Volume II* (1955), p. 336. Foner, a Communist, gives the
Chicago Platform the Red Seal of Approval, proclaiming it 'progressive.'
(p. 333).

"It's important to remember this because it goes against the widespread
belief that the Populist support for Bryan was put over by 'conservative'
Populists who believed in free silver as *the* panacea. And it may help
to explain the enthusiastic support for Bryan by what some might consider
an unlikely source--Eugene V. Debs (although, interestingly, even Debs, in
his campaign tour for Bryan, put a heavy emphasis on free silver)."

Of course, once again, the question is to what extent Bryan could get
these "radical" measures through Congress. Perhaps more railroad
regulation and some procedural safeguards in the use of labor injunctions
in federal courts would pass. There might be some strengthening of the
Sherman Anti-Trust Act. The Democratic platform pretty much acknowledged
that the tariff couldn't be lowered as long as the Supreme Court decision
invalidating the income tax stood, but the death of Stephen J. Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Johnson_Field would eventually give
Bryan a chance to make the Court a bit less conservative. In any event,
presumably the *increases* in the tariff in OTL with the Dingley Act would
not have been enacted.

It is true, though, that while both Bryan and the Democrats were in
principle in favor of many reforms other than free silver, they
concentrated heavily on that last issue in 1896, and Bryan might have
spent a disproportionate amount of his energy as President to getting it
enacted, to the detriment of other reforms.

(4) Bryan is notorious for sharing the white South's attitudes toward
African Americans, though as I note at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.history.what-if/msg/4a22984a42f06a6c he
wasn't as racist in 1896 as he would be later. But in any event it is
hard to see how African Americans (other than some federal patronage
employees) would fare much worse under him than under McKinley. The
southern states would have continued with segregation, disfranchisement,
lynchings, etc., no matter who was in the White House.

___

(3) https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...6-presidential-election.486191/#post-20393196



Why? Bryan specifically distinguished between the annexation of Hawaii and of the Philippines:

"The Hawaiian Islands are nearer to the Western than to the Eastern Hemisphere, and their annexation was urged largely upon the ground that their possession by another nation would be a menace to the United States. When objection was made to the heterogeneous character of the people of the islands, it was met by the assertion that they were few in number. In the opinion of those who favored the annexation of Hawaii, the advantages to be gained from a strategical standpoint outweighed the objection raised to the population. No argument made in favor of the annexation of the Hawaiian Islands can be used in support of the imperialistic policy. The purchase of Alaska removed one more monarchy from American territory and gave to the United States a maximum of [and with a minimum of inhabitants.

"In the forcible annexation of the Philippines our nation neither adds to its strength nor secures broader opportunities for the American people." https://books.google.com/books?id=rCsWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA133

Also, see Kendrick A. Clements, William Jennings Bryan and Democratic Foreign Policy, 1896-1915: "On June 14, just before entering the army, he spoke out against imperialism, but in July of 1897 he had at least tacitly assented to the Trans-Mississippi Congress' resolution calling for the annexation of Hawaii." https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...116.0.0.0...126.vQRVZTmviiU#spf=1585530074675
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