More like... if Bernadotte lost his position in France, and decided to regain it by pushing the Swedes into wars against France.Like a opposite day Bernadotte?
More like... if Bernadotte lost his position in France, and decided to regain it by pushing the Swedes into wars against France.Like a opposite day Bernadotte?
You may agree or disagree with whatever you wish. In OTL the PLC armies had problems even with operating in Moldavia and did not risk any serious campaign against the Crimea.The trouble with sieges is the only issue I can agree on, but only because the polish-lithuanian army was focused mostly on cavalry.
The mentioned by you siege of Pskov, while itself problematic, didn't prevent Batory from waging the war on the hostile territory. And in this case the supplies can be delivered simply through the Dnieper River with czaikas.
An army most of which was raised on the ad-hoc basis (you can easily find out the size of the standing PLC army) was not as well organized as the regular army of the 1730s. This applies both to the army itself and to organization of its baggage train.Ill-organised army? How so?
Wladislav was planning to raise a much greater Cossack army and the cadres for such an army could come only from the same source as for Khmelnitsky’s armies: serfs fleeing from their Polish masters. As for the rest, surely the nobility killed the project not out of the excessive love to the Cossacks.And as for the mutual dislike, the PLC had no trouble with using the Cossacks back in 1621 during the Khotyn campaign.
Yes. While Bernadotte, being a Catholic, declared that deep inside he was actually a Protestant, this one held to his beliefs.Like a opposite day Bernadotte?
Beaten to death.Huh, yet another AH material
Really? How disappointingBeaten to death
Plot twist aticking to one's beliets is badYes. While Bernadotte, being a Catholic, declared that deep inside he was actually a Protestant, this one held to his beliefs.
You know, in case of sieges, Batory didn't even want to capture Pskov in the first place. The whole point of his campaign was to simply cut off the russian forces in Livonia. After he succeeded in that and achieved his goals, he just went back home, so it's a poor example. As for Smolensk, Sigismund was simply an idiot. Not just in sieges, but also in an open field, like when he decided to personally lead the polish-lithuanian forces against Gustav II Adolf in the battle of Gniew, before he realised that it would be better to give the command to a much more skilled Stanisław Koniecpolski.You may agree or disagree with whatever you wish.
Check out basic geography to realise in which direction the Dnieper River is going.Yeah, sure. These boats would be extremely useful while marching across the waterless steppe.
Are we talking about the military campaign, or is this another "Poles bad"?Wladislav was planning to raise a much greater Cossack army and the cadres for such an army could come only from the same source as for Khmelnitsky’s armies: serfs fleeing from their Polish masters.
You know, in case of sieges, Batory didn't even want to capture Pskov in the first place.
The whole point of his campaign was to simply cut off the russian forces in Livonia.
He went home when the siege failed and he run out of money.After he succeeded in that and achieved his goals, he just went back home, so it's a poor example.
Does the same apply to his generals as well? Including Stanisław Żółkiewski who was in charge?As for Smolensk, Sigismund was simply an idiot.
Check out basic geography to realise in which direction the Dnieper River is going.
Did I say this?Are we talking about the military campaign, or is this another "Poles bad"?
Was he a king of France? Or did he use the Swedes to became, again, a marshal of the French Empire? Your analogies are rather “creative”.More like... if Bernadotte lost his position in France, and decided to regain it by pushing the Swedes into wars against France.
We all wish, my friendWas he a king of France?
I did “contribute” to this wish. 😜We all wish, my friend
We all wish 😥
And he does considerably well in your TL as well which really is all that matterI did “contribute” to this wish. 😜
I found it quite difficult not to admire him.And he does considerably well in your TL as well which really is all that matter
The one with the Poland Hungary blob abomination? Or am I thinking of the wrong guy?
In charge, but not uncontested.Does the same apply to his generals as well? Including Stanisław Żółkiewski who was in charge?
In charge, but not uncontested.
Yes, but this is not a relevant argument: the subject was Polish siegecraft, not Russian, which was undeniably quite low at that time and continued to be so all the way to the early stages of the GNW. Not that the Russian field tactics at that time was effective either. And the field commander, Shein, while being a good in defense (he was in charge when Sigizmund besieged the city) was quite inept as a field commander.Anyway, Twenty years later Russians spent 9 months besieging Smolensk, and didnt capture it eventually
Play the Ball.Was he a king of France? Or did he use the Swedes to became, again, a marshal of the French Empire? Your analogies are rather “creative”.
Sorry, usually I’m quite willing to acknowledge when I wrote something potentially offensive but this time I don’t see what caused your remark. The statement that I commented upon was, factually, a very confusing analogy which did not make any sense to me: Bernadotte asking Swedes to restore his position in France. Can you explain its meaning? I could not. That’s why I found it “creative”. What’s wrong with that?Play the Ball.
Not going to simply ask you again.
If you think someone broke the rules you hit the report button. You do NOT double down.Sorry, usually I’m quite willing to acknowledge when I wrote something potentially offensive but this time I don’t see what caused your remark. The statement that I commented upon was, factually, a very confusing analogy which did not make any sense to me: Bernadotte asking Swedes to restore his position in France. Can you explain its meaning? I could not. That’s why I found it “creative”. What’s wrong with that?
But his “Check out basic geography to realise in which direction the Dnieper River is going.” was plain impolite, to put it mildly, and you found it OK.
I’ll follow your advice.If you think someone broke the rules you hit the report button. You do NOT double down.
Play the Ball.You know, in case of sieges, Batory didn't even want to capture Pskov in the first place. The whole point of his campaign was to simply cut off the russian forces in Livonia. After he succeeded in that and achieved his goals, he just went back home, so it's a poor example. As for Smolensk, Sigismund was simply an idiot. Not just in sieges, but also in an open field, like when he decided to personally lead the polish-lithuanian forces against Gustav II Adolf in the battle of Gniew, before he realised that it would be better to give the command to a much more skilled Stanisław Koniecpolski.
Check out basic geography to realise in which direction the Dnieper River is going.
Are we talking about the military campaign, or is this another "Poles bad"?
Have you really not seen the word "if"? If Bernadotte pushed the Swedes into wars against France, it would be like when Sigismund III Vasa pushed the PLC into wars against Sweden. Aluma asked for historical context, so I provided it. And I find as odd that you mock me alone for expanding someone else's comparison.Sorry, usually I’m quite willing to acknowledge when I wrote something potentially offensive but this time I don’t see what caused your remark. The statement that I commented upon was, factually, a very confusing analogy which did not make any sense to me: Bernadotte asking Swedes to restore his position in France. Can you explain its meaning? I could not. That’s why I found it “creative”. What’s wrong with that?