WI/AHC: A reforming Labour government in the UK in the 1980s

Australia and New Zealand both had Labor/Labour governments during much of the 1980s that reformed the economy along marketeer lines. In the former it was done with a human face, in the latter it was done in an arguably more brutal way that even the likes of Thatcher pursued.

How could the UK have a similar government, and who would lead it? What would the implications be?
 

Garrison

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Australia and New Zealand both had Labor/Labour governments during much of the 1980s that reformed the economy along marketeer lines. In the former it was done with a human face, in the latter it was done in an arguably more brutal way that even the likes of Thatcher pursued.

How could the UK have a similar government, and who would lead it? What would the implications be?
Have Callaghan go to the polls in 1978 and win? That would probably see the end of Thatcher as Conservative leader and by 1983 you may not have a split in the Labour ranks, or at least its the hard left that does the splitting and takes relatively few voters with it.
 
Any left wing breakaway would likely be led by Tony Benn, a figure hardly lacking in charisma and gravitas even then (when he terrified many). Not sure where it would be strong but it would take enough of the vote in most of the country to cause the official Labour Party problems.

Callaghan I'm thinking is too nice to lead this government. David Owen and Denis Healey as a prime minister/chancellor combination (could just as easily be the other way around). Neil Kinnock perhaps becomes the Helen Clark type figure (reluctantly going along with the reforms but leading a more left-wing government in the 1990s onwards.
 

Garrison

Donor
Any left wing breakaway would likely be led by Tony Benn, a figure hardly lacking in charisma and gravitas even then (when he terrified many). Not sure where it would be strong but it would take enough of the vote in most of the country to cause the official Labour Party problems.

Callaghan I'm thinking is too nice to lead this government. David Owen and Denis Healey as a prime minister/chancellor combination (could just as easily be the other way around). Neil Kinnock perhaps becomes the Helen Clark type figure (reluctantly going along with the reforms but leading a more left-wing government in the 1990s onwards.
Yeah but OTL the shift to the Left sent many Labour voters into the arms of the SDP, practically guaranteeing huge Tory majorities for the next decade. I doubt any hard left party would be nearly as damaging.
 
Perhaps Labour wins in 1970, followed by Tory victories in 1974 and 1978. This would set up a Labour victory in 1982.
 
Healey if he won the leadership instead of Foot?
1979-83 was always going to be a poisoned chalice, regardless of leader. Even if the PLP votes Healey in, the hard left would still hold significant power among the membership. Benn would challenge Healey for the leadership rather than the deputy role, and he could even win. There wouldn't be as much of a breakaway from the right, but Jenkins and his followers had already decided to form a new party even before Foot took charge, so there would still be a split of some variety. Add in the Falklands effect and the improving economy, and there is no way Labour could realistically challenge for power.

The Callaghan government could last into the early eighties if he had gone to the polls in 1978, but they would likely only last one more term unless they won a larger majority than expected.

The best way to get a Labour government of this sort is to have the Tories in power in the late seventies, either by having Heath win in 74 as expected, or losing in 1970 and winning four years later. Assuming they don't fare much better than the OTL government, a moderate Labour would be well positioned to win back power at an alt-1979 GE, and hold power throughout the eighties by pushing through limited monetarist reforms whilst placating left wingers by spending more of the North Sea oil money on the welfare state, rather than tax cuts.
 
1979-83 was always going to be a poisoned chalice, regardless of leader. Even if the PLP votes Healey in, the hard left would still hold significant power among the membership. Benn would challenge Healey for the leadership rather than the deputy role, and he could even win. There wouldn't be as much of a breakaway from the right, but Jenkins and his followers had already decided to form a new party even before Foot took charge, so there would still be a split of some variety. Add in the Falklands effect and the improving economy, and there is no way Labour could realistically challenge for power.

The Callaghan government could last into the early eighties if he had gone to the polls in 1978, but they would likely only last one more term unless they won a larger majority than expected.

The best way to get a Labour government of this sort is to have the Tories in power in the late seventies, either by having Heath win in 74 as expected, or losing in 1970 and winning four years later. Assuming they don't fare much better than the OTL government, a moderate Labour would be well positioned to win back power at an alt-1979 GE, and hold power throughout the eighties by pushing through limited monetarist reforms whilst placating left wingers by spending more of the North Sea oil money on the welfare state, rather than tax cuts.

Who would be the leader of the Conservatives in the mid 1970s if Heath had lost in 1970?
 
The "Callaghan calls an October '78 Election" POD is probably too late. Even had Callaghan won an overall majority (which is likely but far from certain) he would have faced 20-30 Bennite backbenchers, a Bennite controlled Labour NEC and a trade union movement where the likes of Scargill were rising to prominence. He wouldnt have the political space to manouver into a Hawke-Keating style accord with the trade union movement, the rot had gotten too deep. Even if Callaghan had been able to successfully hand over to Healey in 1980-81, Labour's chances of re-election aren't particularly good.

Labour winning in 1970 is one plausible POD. With Wilson not having to struggle to keep Labour united in opposition - and Benn still in government and not shifting to the left post 1970 defeat as in OTL - its likely Gwyn Morgan takes over as Labour General Secretary in 1972 instead of Ron Hayward (Hayward was elected in OTL by Wilson's casting vote). As a consequence Labour's proscribed list is upheld, and fringe far-left groups, particularly Militant, are never able to find their way into the party. Jenkins/Callaghan succeeds Wilson as leader, but the 1973 oil crisis means the Tories win the 1974-5 election. If Labour stays together in opposition theres a good chance Labour could return to power in 1980 under Jenkins, Callaghan or Healey.

The most likely scenario is what if Heath had won a working majority at the Febuary 1974 election. Wilson, expecting a defeat, had already decided to resign as leader after the election, and would almost certainly have been succeeded by Callaghan. Instead of exhausting himself holding together a government with no overall majority as in OTL, Callaghan is in opposition, and has the time and political capacity to take on the hard left. Instead of Labour tearing itself apart in 1979-83 however it occurs in 1974-78, at a time the left doesnt have an unpopular moderate Labour government as a punching bag. Labour loses the 1978 election (assuming Heath is better able to manage the economy, particularly in 1974-5, and the city not being spooked by a Labour government butterflies away the 1976 IMF crisis), but 13 years of Tory government and another oil crisis means Labour win the 1982/3 election, perhaps by a small landslide. Labour would have the benefits of a relatively easy economic ride, north sea oil money, and the 1971 industrial relations act is never repealed. Labour would probably be in for a couple of terms. Most likely by the 1990s Britain is looking a bit like West Germany, a blend of social market economy, reformed trade unions with large memberships, efficent and publicly owned rail and bus networks, a coal industry that is in decline but will be phased out over 20 years or so rather than overnight. Maybe this 1980s Labour government privatises British Airways, Rolls-Royce and British Leyland, and perhaps sells some shares in BP (Callaghan sold a minority stake in OTL), but the more controversial Thatcher-Era privatisations, Water, Gas and Rail are certainly not going to go ahead as in OTL.
 
Who would be the leader of the Conservatives in the mid 1970s if Heath had lost in 1970?
Maudling was second in 1965, and is generally a pretty common AH PM. I wonder how far-fetched a return to Douglas-Home would be at this point.

It's the most common starting point for Enoch Powell leadership TLs, 'If Banks had Played' perhaps being one of the best examples. Whilst I think it was probably his best shot, I still think it's very unlikely he would get anywhere near winning, given that he was on the most right wing fringe of the Tory party.

Maybe someone like Geoffrey Ripon or Edward DuCann would make more sense as a right wing candidate.
 
Maudling was second in 1965, and is generally a pretty common AH PM. I wonder how far-fetched a return to Douglas-Home would be at this point.
On election day 1970 Douglas-Home, Maudling and Willie Whitelaw (then Tory Chief Whip) arranged to meet at Home's house the weekend after the expected election defeat to arrange how to replace Heath as leader, given that until 1974 there was no mechanism for challenging an incumbent leader. The intention seems to be that Home would take over again as acting leader (unclear if this was for a matter of weeks or longer term) as he was un-divisive and credible as a former PM.

A potential Powell leadership makes interesting speculation, but him actually becoming Tory leader is ASB. From 1968-1973/4 he was the post popular politician in Britain, but his racist message never had more than a handful of supporters on the Tory backbenches. If the Tory members had a vote, he probably would have ended up as leader, but in the days when the leader was elected by the parliamentary party he had no chance.
 
On election day 1970 Douglas-Home, Maudling and Willie Whitelaw (then Tory Chief Whip) arranged to meet at Home's house the weekend after the expected election defeat to arrange how to replace Heath as leader, given that until 1974 there was no mechanism for challenging an incumbent leader. The intention seems to be that Home would take over again as acting leader (unclear if this was for a matter of weeks or longer term) as he was un-divisive and credible as a former PM.

A potential Powell leadership makes interesting speculation, but him actually becoming Tory leader is ASB. From 1968-1973/4 he was the post popular politician in Britain, but his racist message never had more than a handful of supporters on the Tory backbenches. If the Tory members had a vote, he probably would have ended up as leader, but in the days when the leader was elected by the parliamentary party he had no chance.

If Whitelaw is still Chief Whip in 1972, I think he would be a more likely candidate than Powell to succeed Maulding.
 
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