What if a 9/11 style attack occurred in Russia? Imagine that on September 11, the world wakes up to russia being attacked instead of America. What would the targets be? Would it be perpetrated by Chechens? What Would Russia's reaction be.? What if it's Al-Qaeda, does Russia invade Afghanistan again? What's the world reaction to the attacks?
WI: 9/11 style attack occurs in Russia
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Russia suffered numerous terrorist attacks in the early 2000s, most prominently the Moscow Theatre and Beslan School Hostage Crises, both committed by Chechan terrorists. Global sympathy over these was largely why the West turned a blind eye to heavy-handed Russian retaliation in Chechnya.
CthulhuFhtagn
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It would have to be something iconic, but not necessarily the Kremlin. Maybe the Winter Palace?
If it was linked to the Chechens Russia's response would probably be to send more troops to the region. I'm not sure if you'd see an invasion of Afghanistan, though.
If it was linked to the Chechens Russia's response would probably be to send more troops to the region. I'm not sure if you'd see an invasion of Afghanistan, though.
While both events were deadly, I'm talking about an event that would kill 3,00 or people in one day. The type of event that would take Russian Nationalism to the max.
One could argue that the various Chechen attacks in the early 2000s were Russia's 9/11, and Putin's crackdown up to and including current events in the Ukraine is all part of the response. Putin used the nationalist fervor and fear these attacks inspired to cement his grip on poor. Opposition to Putin was portrayed as wanting the terrorists to win.
Heck, you can even argue that its weirdly parallel to what happened here after 9/11, only that the US has considerably stronger institutions and it couldn't be taken as far. The 2002 elections in the United States did figure some prominent cases where Democrats who'd opposed parts of the Bush Administration's policies had ads run against them where their faces were computer morphed into Osama bin Laden's.
Heck, you can even argue that its weirdly parallel to what happened here after 9/11, only that the US has considerably stronger institutions and it couldn't be taken as far. The 2002 elections in the United States did figure some prominent cases where Democrats who'd opposed parts of the Bush Administration's policies had ads run against them where their faces were computer morphed into Osama bin Laden's.
This was pretty huge too. There was not 3000 death but it was pretty big at the time. And it was before 9/11.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
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Case is very controversial though. FSB is often accused from false flag operation.
Well I don't know to much on the case to comment, but from a logical point of view, every country has it's conspiracy theorists.
redlightning
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I don't know if there are any large enough buildings in Russia to crash planes into and kill thousands of people like in the United States. It's very plausible that the Chechen terrorist group gets a hold of nuclear material and detonates a dirty bomb in a major city like Moscow and kills thousands this way instead. This would prompt very brutal Russian retaliation.
whitecrow
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Sure you could. For example, wiki says the Moscow State University has 15000 staff and 47000 students.
A university could easily have thousands people on campus during the school year.
How is it 'very plausible"? Note that no one was able to pull of nuclear terrorism anywhere in the world (despite some people claiming Russia lost 100 nukes since the fall of USSR).
cubefreak123
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Whether it's a dirty bomb, crashing planes into a building, or some other catastrophic event, you will see a few things happen. Russian nationalism and Putin's power will soar and Chechnya would see a massive retaliation (even if they're not the perpetrators of the attack, a terrorist is a terrorist at this point). Russia garners international sympathy for awhile as well.
Internationally I'm not sure that much would change to the extent that it did OTL. There would certainly be an uptick in pressure on terrorist groups and other countries would be taking steps to make sure it didn't happen to them too. But part of the shock of 9/11 was that the US has rarely faced such brazen attacks. The effect wouldn't be as strong since everyone knows about the Chechens and Russia has had to endure tragedies in even recent history.
Internationally I'm not sure that much would change to the extent that it did OTL. There would certainly be an uptick in pressure on terrorist groups and other countries would be taking steps to make sure it didn't happen to them too. But part of the shock of 9/11 was that the US has rarely faced such brazen attacks. The effect wouldn't be as strong since everyone knows about the Chechens and Russia has had to endure tragedies in even recent history.
Not for lack of trying. They planted bombs with radioactive materials a few times that were disarmed before exploding.