White Army Victory - Russian Civil War

[Pearlshire19]

If the White Army won against the Red Army in the Russian Civil War, what exactly would have happened after that? Alternative Scenarios are welcome.

 

[yourworstnightmare]

Depend on when they win (them winning is quite ASB), but I think some kind of unstable Russian Republic would be established.

But for the Whites to win you need;
a) Public Support (the peasants) without the peasants they are doomed
b) The generals need to be able to coordinate their attacks and cooperate, not go solo all the time
c) They need to accept the secession of Poland, the Baltic States, Finland and perhaps even more areas, they would need the support from the groups leaving the Russian Empire, but because of their stubborness to never accept secessions, they did not get that support.

 

[Melvin Loh]

yourworstnioghtmare's right, the key thing for the Whites during the Russian CW was to have unity of action instead of the different generals just wanting to go out and do their own thing without any co-ordination. Say, WI the Czar and his fam had beenr escured from yekaterinburg as a rallying point for the Whites ? Also, how bout a greater level of combined allied support for the Whites instead of the token efforts in Murmansk, Siberia et al ?

 

[Wednesday]

c) They need to accept the secession of Poland, the Baltic States, Finland and perhaps even more areas, they would need the support from the groups leaving the Russian Empire, but because of their stubborness to never accept secessions, they did not get that support.

This isn't really right. The Polish war was an opportunistic attack initiated by the Poles to secure territory beyond the Curzon line, which succeeded in seizing Lvov before the Bolsheviks counterattacked. The Baltic states were at least moderately enthusiastic for the White cause and supplied Yudenich with a large portion of his army for his ill-fated 1919 attack on Petrograd. Finland would be the key area for acquiescence during the operations of the Civil War itself. The failure by Kolchak to recognize Finnish independence induced Mannerheim and Stahlberg to withhold reinforcements from Yudenich that could have allowed him to capture Petrograd.

 

[yourworstnightmare]

Yeah, but the Poles would have intervened much earlier (for selfish landgrabbing and influence spreading reasons) and coordinated their efforts with the Whites if the Whites could cooperate with "Polish rebel scum". Same goes for Ukrainians (their weak and divided nationalist movement would have needed a boost anyway) and peoples of the Caucasus (whom the Russians could have left to kill each other). The inability of the Whites to abandon the dream of a Russian Empire was one of their failures. The other more serious one was their attitude towards the peasants, which robbed them all chances to win the war. If the Whites could buy the peasants and mobilize them in the White army the Reds would not stand a chance.