What if the Warsaw Pact and Yugoslavia revolted against Moscow in 1956 in solidarity with Hungary?

[EzekielOfJerusalem]

Let's say right around the time the revolutionaries had basically succeeded and international moral support was highest, the governments and/or people of East Germany, Poland, Romania, and Yugoslavia revolted against Moscow, with at minimum similar demands to the Hungarian revolutionaries. What happens next? How does the West respond?

 

[karlos2075]

I don't know if that is even posible but I think that Moscow is going to be very angry and may even lead to a "Communist civil war"
The only countries that would not be in conflict would be Albania, China, North Vietnam and North Korea

 

[Monk78]

There was no such solidarity between these states
Remember just 10 yrs earlier Nazis fought long and hard in hungry

 

[pattersonautobody]

As this early of a stage it just leads to a Stalinist flavored repression. Kruschev gets replaced by Malenkov gone evil or something. USSR would prevail. Interestingly, this may prolong the USSR to the point where it becomes a huge North Korea that persists to the modern day.

 

[Craig]

It would help to lose the 1956 Suez crisis.

 

[sarge]

Yugoslavia had been on the outs with the Soviets since 1948. There was no Moscow to rebel against there.

 

[Lord Cheddar]

Yugoslavia had been on the outs with the Soviets since 1948. There was no Moscow to rebel against there.

Yeah, supporting anti-Soviet rebels is something that the Yugoslavs would have loved to do, especially if said rebels happened to be leftists as well.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that they actually helped the Hungarians quite a bit IRL.

 

[Impirius]

The USSR crushes everyone and brings extreme retribution against us for it.
What shape that would take i have no idea but that big F you to the entire basis of Soviet ideology will lead to Morgantyu Germany degrees of insanity.

 

[Sasza]

Such a rebellion took place in Poland. The army mobilized against the Red Army's movements.

 

[EasternRomanEmpire]

Let's say right around the time the revolutionaries had basically succeeded and international moral support was highest, the governments and/or people of East Germany, Poland, Romania, and Yugoslavia revolted against Moscow, with at minimum similar demands to the Hungarian revolutionaries. What happens next? How does the West respond?

The government would never do such a thing as leaders in Hungary in 1956 and in Czechoslovakia in 1968 were an exception not the norm, if there were a series of peoples revolts they would easily be crushed by the government at least until Soviet troops arrive.

 

[Meester Collins]

Such a massive rebellion would spark a nuclear holocaust of Eastern Europe. The USSR would see it as an existential crisis and react accordingly with its ultimate weapons.

 

[The Ranger]

I doubt they would do that if the USSR were not being invaded by the Eastern countries but they would crack down hard.

 

[CalBear]

Be a bloodbath.

 

[Hrvatskiwi]

Yeah, supporting anti-Soviet rebels is something that the Yugoslavs would have loved to do, especially if said rebels happened to be leftists as well.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that they actually helped the Hungarians quite a bit IRL.

Tito actually opposed the Hungarian uprising of 1956.

He was a strong supporter of the Prague Spring in Czechoslovakia though.

 

[Sam R.]

Tito actually opposed the Hungarian uprising of 1956.

He was on the fence about it for longer than the Italian party and almost on the fence as long as the Chinese Party.

If Poland comes out clearly in favour, and there's another state clearly in favour, then Yugoslavia and China will tail end the Hungarians, and the Soviet Union will choose to become the Leader of a Great Reform Movement in Europe. Much like the Soviet Union agreed with the Polish Party when the Polish military out manoeuvred them.

The CPs will "bandwagon" any "winning" movement and claim responsibility for its genius. Inside the Soviet Union there were industrial issues around 1956 in the form of work-ins, and in Moscow and Leningrad there were lower level movements compatible and existing in the student-nomenklatura. Mikoyan's report from Hungary was strongly in favour to the Political Committee. Zhukov outlined the military costs of Hungary accurately and a in a way which indicated his personal preference within the policy agreement that the military would not make policy demands. Zhukov's estimate of costs was proved right on the ground.

A successful revolt means that the Soviet Union agreed with the revolt, or leads it. Remember that the central demands of 1956 were posed in Poland, Hungary and the USSR itself as a revitalisation of socialist or communist society.

 

[Beatriz]

For All Time had Stalin nuking Belgarde

 

[Hrvatskiwi]

He was on the fence about it for longer than the Italian party and almost on the fence as long as the Chinese Party.

If Poland comes out clearly in favour, and there's another state clearly in favour, then Yugoslavia and China will tail end the Hungarians, and the Soviet Union will choose to become the Leader of a Great Reform Movement in Europe. Much like the Soviet Union agreed with the Polish Party when the Polish military out manoeuvred them.

The CPs will "bandwagon" any "winning" movement and claim responsibility for its genius. Inside the Soviet Union there were industrial issues around 1956 in the form of work-ins, and in Moscow and Leningrad there were lower level movements compatible and existing in the student-nomenklatura. Mikoyan's report from Hungary was strongly in favour to the Political Committee. Zhukov outlined the military costs of Hungary accurately and a in a way which indicated his personal preference within the policy agreement that the military would not make policy demands. Zhukov's estimate of costs was proved right on the ground.

A successful revolt means that the Soviet Union agreed with the revolt, or leads it. Remember that the central demands of 1956 were posed in Poland, Hungary and the USSR itself as a revitalisation of socialist or communist society.

Yes, this is all true and much more in-depth than my reply.

 

[Tripwire]

He was on the fence about it for longer than the Italian party and almost on the fence as long as the Chinese Party.

If Poland comes out clearly in favour, and there's another state clearly in favour, then Yugoslavia and China will tail end the Hungarians, and the Soviet Union will choose to become the Leader of a Great Reform Movement in Europe. Much like the Soviet Union agreed with the Polish Party when the Polish military out manoeuvred them.

The CPs will "bandwagon" any "winning" movement and claim responsibility for its genius. Inside the Soviet Union there were industrial issues around 1956 in the form of work-ins, and in Moscow and Leningrad there were lower level movements compatible and existing in the student-nomenklatura. Mikoyan's report from Hungary was strongly in favour to the Political Committee. Zhukov outlined the military costs of Hungary accurately and a in a way which indicated his personal preference within the policy agreement that the military would not make policy demands. Zhukov's estimate of costs was proved right on the ground.

A successful revolt means that the Soviet Union agreed with the revolt, or leads it. Remember that the central demands of 1956 were posed in Poland, Hungary and the USSR itself as a revitalisation of socialist or communist society.

Wasn’t the Polish Communist Party pretty well under the thumb of the USSR at the time?

 

[karlos2075]

For All Time had Stalin nuking Belgarde

He was dead, but that's something he could do.

 

[seraphim74]

Wasn’t the Polish Communist Party pretty well under the thumb of the USSR at the time?

There was a strong faction led by Gomułka which wanted more independence (or autonomy), no Soviets in Polish administration, security apparatus, party and of course in armed forces. They were also willing to give people a little more freedom, release most of political prisoners, loosen restrictions on culture, accept some private property in economy, improve relations with the Catholic Church and generally improve the quality of life of ordinary people. In 1956 after the revolt of workers in Poznań Gomulka's faction became more and more popular and the Hungarian Uprising met with a lot of support from Polish people. During the decisive days of the final clash between factions the Soviet troops in Poland started marching on Warsaw and Polish internal security troops loyal to Gomułka secured key places in Warsaw. Eventually a Soviet delegation led by Khrushchev landed in Warsaw and after very stormy negotiations accepted Gomułka as new leader of Poland. Soviet tanks were sent back to bases.
Fun fact, the Poles were not informed about Krushchev's arrival and his plane was intercepted by Polish fighters. It is not very likely, but WI one of them was a little too trigger happy, or if the Soviet plane had a malfunction and crashed? The Soviets would see it as a very hostile action and it might trigger military intervention and at least some Polish units would fight. It might be a start of another Polish uprising.