What if R J Mitchell lives?

R. J. Mitchell died of bowel cancer in 1937 at the age of 42. He originally had a colostomy in 1933 and it seemed this had been successful. However, the cancer returned in 1936.

In his short life he designed a wide range of sea planes from the Walrus to the Stranraer. He pushed the boundaries of high speed flight with the S4, S5, S6 and S6b. The S6b set a world speed record of 407mph in 1931. The Spitfire, as well as all its other positive attributes, had the highest critical mach number of all of the piston engine fighters of the time. I've seen figures as high as 0.86 Mach, and on another site some joker suggests the Spit airframe could have withstood Mach 1.3 if it had been given enough thrust.

So, what would have happened if he'd never developed cancer in the first place, or if the 1933 surgery had been successful?

Obviously he would have continued to have influence on the Spitfire project, as well as the Supermarine B.12/36 four engine bomber. If we allow him the same life span as Sydney Camm he would have lived until 1967 and therefore had a major influence on the development of high speed flight in Britain post war. At the very least we would have been spared that eyesore the Attacker. Surely Mitchell would have created something more asthetically pleasing.
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And, of course, in the hands of a man of Mitchell's genius, the Supermarine Swift could really have been something special rather than the crushing disappointment it was.
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So, how big a loss was he? Where could British aviation have been with him?
 
Vickers reorganised everything in 1938. Would Mitchell have been given the same freedom, as he was allowed when Vickers just owned Supermarine, after the reorganisation? Genius doesn't often fit nicely with hierarchies! Even Camm had his moments at Hawker!
 
Vickers reorganised everything in 1938. Would Mitchell have been given the same freedom, as he was allowed when Vickers just owned Supermarine, after the reorganisation? Genius doesn't often fit nicely with hierarchies! Even Camm had his moments at Hawker!

True. Never underestimate the congenital craving men in suits have to frustrate genius.
 
R. J. Mitchell died of bowel cancer in 1937 at the age of 42. He originally had a colostomy in 1933 and it seemed this had been successful. However, the cancer returned in 1936.

In his short life he designed a wide range of sea planes from the Walrus to the Stranraer. He pushed the boundaries of high speed flight with the S4, S5, S6 and S6b. The S6b set a world speed record of 407mph in 1931. The Spitfire, as well as all its other positive attributes, had the highest critical mach number of all of the piston engine fighters of the time. I've seen figures as high as 0.86 Mach, and on another site some joker suggests the Spit airframe could have withstood Mach 1.3 if it had been given enough thrust.

So, what would have happened if he'd never developed cancer in the first place, or if the 1933 surgery had been successful?

Obviously he would have continued to have influence on the Spitfire project, as well as the Supermarine B.12/36 four engine bomber. If we allow him the same life span as Sydney Camm he would have lived until 1967 and therefore had a major influence on the development of high speed flight in Britain post war. At the very least we would have been spared that eyesore the Attacker. Surely Mitchell would have created something more asthetically pleasing.
Supermarine_Attcker_FB.2_WP290_ST812_1831_Sqn_STN_25.02.56_edited-2.jpg

And, of course, in the hands of a man of Mitchell's genius, the Supermarine Swift could really have been something special rather than the crushing disappointment it was.
Supermarine_Swift_FR.5_XD905_V-A_Farnborough_10.09.55_edited-2.jpg



So, how big a loss was he? Where could British aviation have been with him?

IIRC His initial brush with cancer saw him taking the air in Switzerland and while in that neck of the woods he got wind of the latest German developments which led him to believe that Germany was resurgent and set upon a course that could only mean another war.

So the cancer was an important part of his late character and drive to produce the Spitfire.

Had he lived - who knows maybe more of his twin and 4 engined designs might have been better received

Longer ranged Spitfires?

Folding wing Spitfires for the Navy in 38?

Longer Ranged Folding Wing Spitfires for the navy in 38? :D

Maybe he and Beverley Shenstone, who had worked at Junkers in Germany for a few years before moving to England in 1932 and who helped design the spitfires rather nice wing, could have a greater influence on the rest of the industry?
 
I would like to think that at some point Mitchell would have redesigned the Spitfire to have a wide track undercarriage. It would have sorted a lot of problems the Spit had with rough airfields in other parts of the world (and also as a bonus made the Seafire better suited to carrier operation.)
 
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