Viva Kennedy: Rise of the Modern Democratic Party

Introduction
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Viva Kennedy is an Alternate Timeline in which President John F. Kennedy does not pass away on November 22nd, 1963.

After the assassination attempt, Kennedy's popularity skyrocketed, from his lowest approval rating ever at 58% in late-1963 to a resounding 78%, the highest its been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Although nationally Kennedy's popularity skyrocketed, he further sinks in the Deep South. Many White Southerners even decry his survival.

The future remains unknown, but many ponder what would've happened if President Kennedy passed...
 
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Beginning of an Era (p. 1)
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November 22, 1963, 12:30 PM,
Shots ring out over the Presidential Limousine, Secret Service Officers jump to shield all passengers, screaming of the Plaza can be heard. President Kennedy was seen with blood covering the right side of his jacket, he was rushed to the hospital. Notably only the President was wounded in the shooting, and the investigation to find the perpetrator started.

Kennedy arrived to the hospital still conscious holding his right shoulder. He was put under general anesthesia and the removal process began. Using the hospital records and evidence from the car, they determined that the President had been shot twice, the first bullet went through the posterior side of his right shoulder and out of the anterior side, where it went on to lodge into the drivers seat. The second bullet was shot a few seconds later and grazed his neck, but was not imbedded into the skin, it also lodged into the drivers seat.

Around 1:40 PM, about 1 hour and 10 minutes since the attempt on the President's life, Lee Harvey Oswald was pulled from the Texas Theatre for the killing of Police Officer J. D. Tippit, but was later brought up on the charges of the assassination attempt of the President. The assassination charges were brought up after the Police investigated the shells and gun bag in the Book Depository where Oswald worked as a temporary employee. After the shots were fired, Oswald left the room and ran down the stairs where he encountered a Police Officer, however he was let go after being recognized as an employee. This correlation alongside a witnesses eye witness testimony and description of the perpetrator were enough for Oswald to be charged. He was detained and awaited trial.

Back at the hospital the President after a few hours of recovery was deemed stable, he would have to stay in the hospital for a couple more days, but he survived. After the assassination attempt, the RNC put a hold on campaigning until the President was able to resume his duties. Lyndon B. Johnson had been given Acting Powers of the President when Kennedy was under anesthesia.

Due to the precedent of the Oswald case, he was given a trial after about 2 weeks. It lasted only 3 days, when the Jury came back with a decision in a mere 6 minutes. Lee Harvey Oswald was found Guilty of First Degree Murder of Officer Tippit and was found Guilty of the Attempted Murder of President Kennedy. He was sentenced to Life Imprisonment without the chance of Parole.

After the Oswald trial concluded, President Kennedy addressed the Nation on the television...

"My Fellow Americans, I am glad to have returned safely to my residence, with my family, and with those whom I can lean on for support. I am beyond grateful to see the support I have gotten from you, the people and I wish to thank you all for your prayers [...] I am back and I am better than ever! This attempt has made me realize that life truly is so short, and we need to present this realization with action, that is why I am asking Congress, with my whole heart, to pass the Civil Rights Act as soon as possible. Life is a gift and we cannot take the livelihood from individuals based om the color of their skin [...] Thank you and God bless!"

President Kennedy employed the Vice President and the House Leader to cajole Democratic Senators and Representatives respectively. He with some light persuasion got VP Johnson on board, but Carl Albert was more difficult.

The Representative from Oklahoma was not an ardent Segregationist like Majority Whip Hale Boggs, but he was a more Conservative Democrat. Albert proved a key Democratic leader when he got most Southern Democrats in favor of Medicare. He didn't fully support the idea of supporting a Civil Rights Act, but after being talked to by Kennedy and his close friend Lyndon Johnson he eventually decided to support the Administrations goal of passing the Civil Rights Act.
 
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Beginning of an Era (p. 2)
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House Maj. Leader Albert had a fairly easy time rallying support among House Democrats, with the opening of the 2nd Session of Congress the Civil Rights Act was introduced to the House. Speaker McCormack, a New Deal Democrat, put the Civil Rights Act on the floor pretty early on. House Maj. Whip Hale Boggs was notably sidelined during the whole process, which Southerners didn't like. But eventually with Bipartisan support the Civil Rights Act passed through the House.

Although it faced relative ease throughout the House, much to the dismay of Southerners, it was almost immediately denounced by the Southern Senators. Kennedy did have strong Senate allies though, including Senate Maj. Leader Mike Mansfield, and Senate Maj. Whip Hubert Humphrey. Leader Mansfield took some unprecedented steps in making sure that the bill didn't die in Committee, however the 'Southern Bloc' filibustered the bill immediately. It took roughly 58 days until the filibuster broke, Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen united most Republicans in favor of the Civil Rights Act and alongside the Democrats they broke the filibuster.

Everett Dirksen was a known moderate and had a good working relationship with Leader Mike Mansfield, and held a strong grip on the Republican Senators, many historians attribute these factors to how the Civil Rights Act got passed.

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President John F. Kennedy signed the Civil Rights Act into law, afterwards he would go meet with an array of Civil Rights leaders, where he would reaffirm his promises to Civil Rights to the leaders and to the nation...

"[...] We have confronted this moral dilemma that we have been facing. We came and answered the question whether all Americans are to be afforded equal rights and equal opportunities, whether we are going to treat our fellow Americans as we want to be treated, and we came back with a resounding triumphant yes. Now an American, because his skin is dark, will not need to worry about eating lunch in a restaurant open to the public, if they can send their children to the best public school available, if they can vote for the public officials who represent them, if, in short, they can enjoy the full and free life which all of us want."

Historians claim that this legislation and the following speech was instrumental in the 1964 Elections. Kennedy, now showing that he would stick true to his campaign promises of Civil Rights, and with a booming economy, was guaranteed a second term. Especially against the likes of Senator Goldwater, the presumptive Republican Nominee.
 
Beginning of an Era (p. 3)
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As the 1964 Election cycle started heating up, there was a sense of dread permeating the air...

With the opening of the Republican National Convention, there was a palpable tension, after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, Goldwater's Conservatives were stirred into a frenzy claiming that the current Administration had "left the white man behind." Goldwater's Conservatives were openly clashing with Rockefeller's Moderates. Goldwater was regarded as the "Conservatives' leading spokesman." As a result, Goldwater was not as popular with the moderates and liberals of the Republican Party. When Rockefeller attempted to deliver a speech, he was booed by the convention's conservative delegates, who regarded him as a member of the "eastern liberal establishment." However, Goldwater won 883 Delegates on the First Ballot securing his victory as the Nominee. When he endorsed Warren Miller for the Vice Presidency, the Republican Convention unanimously voted for Miller.

The 1964 Democratic Convention was generally the same, many Southern Delegates, led by Strom Thurmond, were threatening a walk-out mid Convention. President Kennedy knew this Conventions wouldn't be a coronation, in preparation of the worst possible outcome, he made deals with Rockefeller Republicans and came to a nuclear fallout deal. If the Southern Bloc was to walkout and even switch parties (rumors were stirring that with the nomination of Goldwater, Thurmond would switch parties), then Rockefeller Republicans would switch and become Moderate Democrats. As the Convention starts, JFK would give a speech declaring that his next goal in the advancement of Civil Rights would be a Voting Rights Act and furthering the Equal Opportunity of Housing. After the President's address at the behest of Senator Thurmond the Southern Bloc walked out of the Convention.

Thurmond and the signatories of the Southern Manifesto announced that they would join the Republican Party and fully endorsed Barry Goldwater claiming that he "supports and upholds the ideals of the white man." In response to the Southern Bloc supporting the Republicans, Governor Rockefeller, Senator Clifford Case, and Senator Jacob Javits endorsed President Kennedy and officially joined the Democratic Party. This would leave the Democrats with a majority in Congress but with a much less significant majority. This event would be dubbed by historians as the 'Realignment of Parties.'

This massive realignment of parties right before the 1964 elections will have a lasting impact on the future of the party.
 
signatories of the Southern Manifesto announced that they would join the Republican Party
This is overdoing it imo, a lot of the notable southern democrats in the senate wouldn’t be willing to give up their senior positions they’d lose by switching to switch to a party they themselves don’t think really represent them.
 
Era of Camelot (p. 4)
November finally rolls around and there is a strong tension, with the South becoming a Republican stronghold overnight and the West becoming a Democratic one, there are countless possibilities. Scandals that were once taking up the majority of debates and ads have dissipated, now the main focus is party re-branding. The Democrats are trying to re-brand as a Liberal Pro-Civil Rights party, whereas the Republicans with Goldwater as their figurehead have re-branded themselves as a Social Conservative segregationist party. Many onlookers are expecting President Kennedy to be reelected as his popularity has staggered around 60%, however with the massive party realignment, Congress is open season.

1964 Presidential Election

John F. Kennedy - 409 EV/ 54% PV
Barry M. Goldwater - 129 EV/ 46% PV

1964 Senatorial Elections

Democratic Party - 60 (-6)
Republican Party - 40 (+6)

1964 House Elections

Democratic Party - 228 (-30)
Republican Party - 207 (+30)
The results of the election were surprising, the Democrats not only kept their majority within the Senate, but they also kept their majority in the House! Many reports show that due to the recent realignment, the usual Incumbent Stagnation didn’t occur as drastically as it normally would. This gives President Kennedy the ability to pass liberal reform without needing to bend to the will of the Southern Bloc.
 
This is overdoing it imo, a lot of the notable southern democrats in the senate wouldn’t be willing to give up their senior positions they’d lose by switching to switch to a party they themselves don’t think really represent them.
Yeah I get that, I know that it isn’t really realistic, but I mean Thurmond irl switched 1964 even with LBJ. So I was kinda using the fact that Kennedy did everything but try and appease the Southern Bloc Thurmond would switch sooner and bring others with him. 🤷
 
Era of Camelot (p. 5)
After a great showing in 1964, President Kennedy's second inauguration was one of jubilation from the left and minority communities. Almost two million people came to the inauguration, nearly doubling the attendance of his first, below zero, inauguration. Notably Governor Rockefeller was in attendance, alongside Vice President Johnson, showing the unity of the new 'Kennedy Coalition.' The message of the inauguration was maybe unsurprisingly "Cultivate Peace and Harmony With All," taken from the Farewell Address of George Washington. Ted Sorenson, the President's speech writer, further cemented himself as one of the greatest after the Second Inauguration. A famous quote came from Kennedy's second inauguration, one that was a targeted attack at corrupt nepotists in Government, it read the following...

"[...] When our legislators, our governors, our mayors, and our alderman use their influence to defy the law, or to tolerate what we know to be wrong, or turn towards corruption, and make us too scared to speak up. That is when we know that we have struck a blow to freedom, justice, and decency [...]"

Another quote read the following...

"[...] But what we must bear in mind is that what’s good news to you might be bad news to another. And while you sit here today knowing that you have come to hear good news, you must realize in advance, what’s good news for the sheep, well, that might be bad news for the wolf [...]"

The second quote was seen as a jab towards the Southern Bloc, everyone though that the President and the Democrats were going to lose the '64 Elections but they prevailed. President Kennedy was not only gifted a Democratic Congress, but a Filibuster-proof Senate! In a post-inauguration statement, President Kennedy stated that he would push hard for social programs and civil rights causes.

Something that didn't shock a lot of people was Kennedy's restructuring of the Cabinet. He restructured it so that those who fell in line with the Southern Bloc or more Conservative fringes of the party, they would be shuffled outdoor more moderate or liberal members.

The Kennedy Cabinet
President - John F. Kennedy
Vice President - Lyndon B. Johnson
Secretary of State - Dean Rusk
Secretary of the Treasury - Henry Morgenthau Jr.
Secretary of Defense - Robert McNamara
Attorney General - Robert F. Kennedy
Postmaster General - John A. Gronouski
Secretary of Interior - Stewart Udall
Secretary of Agriculture - Orville Freeman
Secretary of Commerce - C. R. Smith
Secretary of Labor - Robert Kastenmeier
Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare - Nelson Rockefeller
The most notable new comers to the Kennedy Cabinet would be Henry Morgenthau Jr. originally not quite supportive of the idea, Morgenthau finally caved into taking the position he held for so long before. The staunch-New Deal ally would prove to be a major ally of President Kennedy. The other new comer would be Nelson Rockefeller, he served as the First Undersecretary of HEW, but after joining the Democratic Party, Kennedy decided to offer Rockefeller the opportunity. Rockefeller quickly agreed to join Kennedy's administration.

This new Kennedy Administration was dubbed the 'Dream Team' a mix of moderate to liberal Democrats that widely supported Kennedy's New Frontier programs. The Dream Team proved more than the fact that Democrats could unite, it also proved that Democrats now had a clear sense of purpose and new found energy. The Kennedy Coalition in Congress worked tirelessly to pass bills becoming one of the most effective Congresses since FDR's New Deal Coalition.
 
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Era of Camelot (p. 6)
As the first session of the 89th Congress opened, the Democratic Party was very excited to still hold Congress. With these changes, the Congress immediately started pushing through Legislation. Historians would say that the 89th Congress was one of the most effective, as almost every bill that was discussed was passed.

One of the very first bills to be passed was the Equal Opportunity Housing Act of 1965, this was something many thought President Kennedy had left behind as a broken promise, but his readiness and speed at which he proposed it to the 89th Congress showed those rumors untrue. It would make Executive Order 11063 a law, but it would get rid of all the existing limits, the Equal Opportunity Housing Act of 1965 would also make it illegal for any discrimination on private housing. This was seen as a major jump in Civil Rights.

Another major legislative step was after the Revenue Act of 1965, and the Food Stamps Act of 1965. The Revenue Act of 1965 lowered income taxes from 91% to 70%, and lowered Corporate Tax from 52% to 50%, this would have a positive impact on the economy, as it would increase individuals and businesses disposable income. The passage of the Act would be met with higher spending from individuals and more community investments from businesses. The Food Stamp Act, this piece of legislation would secure the Food Stamp Program as a permanent thing, it would been monumental in JFK's 'New Frontier' and would be a integral part of Kennedy's inaugural address.

Even with these achievements from Congress, many people were still upset, Kennedy promised a Voting Rights Act, an amendment to Social Security that would create a strong national Medicare and Medicaid program, and a National Job Corps that would help young adults be trained and educated on their desired occupation, this program would help many impoverished families have the ability to start getting a higher education. But the first session of the 89th Congress closed, leaving many to wonder if President Kennedy will push for these promised programs...

During Congresses massive achievements, President Kennedy was dealing with the shock of Malcolm X being assassinated. President Kennedy would make a short remark,

"[...] He (Malcolm X) and I didn't always see eye to eye. But he was a fighter for freedom [...]"

President Kennedy's statement did help calm the atmosphere, but there was still anger. Then if not to make it even worse, Bloody Sunday occurred, March 7, 1965, an estimated 525 to 600 civil rights marchers headed southeast out of Selma. The march was led by John Lewis of SNCC and the Reverend Hosea Williams of SCLC, followed by Bob Mants of SNCC and Albert Turner of SCLC. The protest went according to plan until the marchers crossed the Edmund Pettus Bridge, where they encountered a wall of state troopers and county posse waiting for them on the other side. County sheriff Jim Clark had issued an order for all white men in Dallas County over the age of twenty-one to report to the courthouse that morning to be deputized. Commanding officer John Cloud told the demonstrators to disband at once and go home. Rev. Hosea Williams tried to speak to the officer, but Cloud curtly informed him there was nothing to discuss. Seconds later, the troopers began shoving the demonstrators, knocking many to the ground and beating them with nightsticks. Another detachment of troopers fired tear gas, and mounted troopers charged the crowd on horseback

After the brutal incident, President Kennedy called Governor George Wallace, reports vary on what was said throughout the call, but there is one quote that everyone can agree on. When discussing possible solutions many heard Kennedy say the following...

"[...] You better get those people out of there! How did he deputize a whole ass town George! Get those damned fools out of there!"

Many said that this quote showed how responsive Kennedy was to the incident, and after a couple hours, the massive amount of deputized white men had their powers 'expired,' and Sheriff Clark resigned. Many saw this as a little victory for the Civil Rights movement. However there are still many liberals going to Selma for the upcoming march and one night three white pastors who traveled to support the march got beaten by members of the KKK, one of the even dying. This made the issue more than just what color someone is, but whom they support as well.

President Kennedy authorized an Executive Order that would Federalize the Alabama National Guard, they would then be ordered to safely escort the almost 50,000 person march to Montgomery, where Martin Luther King would give his famous "How long? Not long" speech. After his speech in Montgomery, Dr. King alongside John Lewis would be asked to get on a call with President Kennedy. On this call President Kennedy would reaffirm his promise that the very first thing that Congress will do once they open again, would be to pass a Voting Rights Act.
 
Era of Camelot (p. 7)
Congresses Second Sessions opens, at the behest of President Kennedy, Congress passes the historical Voting Rights Act of 1966, President Kennedy is praised for this decisive action after the Selma March. But, on top of passing the Voting Rights Act, Congress would also pass Social Security Amendments of 1966 which would create Medicaid and Medicare, later in the year, President Kennedy would reach out to Senator William Proxmire of Wisconsin, the proposal by Kennedy would be a gutting of the Taft Hartley Act. Known later as the Proxmire Workers Act of 1966, the bill would get rid of the prohibition on almost all forms of striking and picketing. It would keep it's guidelines on investigating unions (due to the likes of Hoffa and other huge Union-Mob Leaders).

The Proxmire Workers Act of 1966 would be passed and signed into law by the President. Workers across the United States praise the President for helping the blue collar class. Republicans call the Proxmire Workers Act and the Voting Rights Act as 'political pandering' as the nation goes into the 1966 Midterm Elections. Although those bills will definitely help the Democrats, a looming issues begins to grow... Vietnam.

1966 Senatorial Elections

Democratic Party - 60 (0)
Republican Party - 40 (0)

1966 House Elections

Democratic Party - 250 (+22)
Republican Party - 185 (-22)
The Democrats retain their filibuster proof majority in the Senate, and even expand upon their majority in the House. Many credit the growth within the House to the Voting Rights Act and the Proxmire Workers Act, two bills that had major consequences on the Kennedy Coalition, solidifying the black community and the blue collar workers into the Kennedy Coalition.

President Kennedy has now seen a half decade of prosperity. The Administration beat a recession and ushered in record economic growth, supported massive Civil Rights reform, and (minus Bay of Pigs) have 'beaten' back the Soviets out of the Americas. President Kennedy had a popularity of almost 68%. But, a major issue arises, Vietnam. President Kennedy had devised a plan for the US involvement in Vietnam. He came to the conclusion that the US should help the Vietnamese through sending over an Officer Corp, but reaffirmed his position that it was "their (South Vietnam) war to win." This was much to the scrutiny from Military Officials and even Secretary McNamara, but Kennedy did not budge. He would not authorize a full ground force to be sent to Vietnam.

Throughout the later half of the 60's Kennedy would slowly withdraw US Officers and US Advisors, this happens due to the North slowly taking Southern cities (notably the Soviets also do not interfere in Vietnam). In 1967 the President of Vietnam Nguyen Van Thieu would flee from South Vietnam and go to Australia. The South Vietnamese Military Junta would then surrender to the Northern government. President Kennedy would offer protection within the US to some South Vietnamese officials, but by the end of 1967, the Vietnamese Civil War was over. Kennedy gave a speech to Congress on a special invite, he would be quoted as saying the following...

"[...] We helped them (South Vietnamese) as much as we could, unfortunately our allies in the South were unable to prevail. But what we must remember is that there were no American casualties. The United States has an obligation to its people first and foremost [...]"

The President was met with harsh criticisms from Republicans and some even from within the Democratic party. He justified these criticisms by pointing the the fact that the North Vietnamese government was staunchly independent from China and even the Soviet Union. President Kennedy would also make it a point, that the situation in Vietnam had been deteriorating for a couple years now, and if the US had launched a true military operation the casualties were in the tens of thousands. The President would also make it clear that the North Vietnamese had a massive advantage after Diem's assassination and collapse was a "sad inevitable." Although there was originally a lot of anger and criticisms for Kennedy's position, it soon became a popular sentiment among Democrats.

(I don't really know how to make it known, but without the draft and Vietnam as a whole, the 'flower power' movement doesn't really happen to the extent it did IRL, which in and of itself would make the political climate going into 1968 much safer and less polarized.)
 
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marktaha

Banned
After a great showing in 1964, President Kennedy's second inauguration was one of jubilation from the left and minority communities. Almost two million people came to the inauguration, nearly doubling the attendance of his first, below zero, inauguration. Notably Governor Rockefeller was in attendance, alongside Vice President Johnson, showing the unity of the new 'Kennedy Coalition.' The message of the inauguration was maybe unsurprisingly "Cultivate Peace and Harmony With All," taken from the Farewell Address of George Washington. Ted Sorenson, the President's speech writer, further cemented himself as one of the greatest after the Second Inauguration. A famous quote came from Kennedy's second inauguration, one that was a targeted attack at corrupt nepotists in Government, it read the following...



Another quote read the following...



The second quote was seen as a jab towards the Southern Bloc, everyone though that the President and the Democrats were going to lose the '64 Elections but they prevailed. President Kennedy was not only gifted a Democratic Congress, but a Filibuster-proof Senate! In a post-inauguration statement, President Kennedy stated that he would push hard for social programs and civil rights causes.

Something that didn't shock a lot of people was Kennedy's restructuring of the Cabinet. He restructured it so that those who fell in line with the Southern Bloc or more Conservative fringes of the party, they would be shuffled outdoor more moderate or liberal members.

The Kennedy Cabinet
President - John F. Kennedy
Vice President - Lyndon B. Johnson
Secretary of State - Dean Rusk
Secretary of the Treasury - Henry Morgenthau Jr.
Secretary of Defense - Robert McNamara
Attorney General - Robert F. Kennedy
Postmaster General - John A. Gronouski
Secretary of Interior - Stewart Udall
Secretary of Agriculture - Orville Freeman
Secretary of Commerce - C. R. Smith
Secretary of Labor - Robert Kastenmeier
Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare - Nelson Rockefeller
The most notable new comers to the Kennedy Cabinet would be Henry Morgenthau Jr. originally not quite supportive of the idea, Morgenthau finally caved into taking the position he held for so long before. The staunch-New Deal ally would prove to be a major ally of President Kennedy. The other new comer would be Nelson Rockefeller, he served as the First Undersecretary of HEW, but after joining the Democratic Party, Kennedy decided to offer Rockefeller the opportunity. Rockefeller quickly agreed to join Kennedy's administration.

This new Kennedy Administration was dubbed the 'Dream Team' a mix of moderate to liberal Democrats that widely supported Kennedy's New Frontier programs. The Dream Team proved more than the fact that Democrats could unite, it also proved that Democrats now had a clear sense of purpose and new found energy. The Kennedy Coalition in Congress worked tirelessly to pass bills becoming one of the most effective Congresses since FDR's New Deal Coalition.
Why would Rocky want to give up real power as Governor of New York for a minor Cabinet post?
 

marktaha

Banned
Congresses Second Sessions opens, at the behest of President Kennedy, Congress passes the historical Voting Rights Act of 1966, President Kennedy is praised for this decisive action after the Selma March. But, on top of passing the Voting Rights Act, Congress would also pass Social Security Amendments of 1966 which would create Medicaid and Medicare, later in the year, President Kennedy would reach out to Senator William Proxmire of Wisconsin, the proposal by Kennedy would be a gutting of the Taft Hartley Act. Known later as the Proxmire Workers Act of 1966, the bill would get rid of the prohibition on almost all forms of striking and picketing. It would keep it's guidelines on investigating unions (due to the likes of Hoffa and other huge Union-Mob Leaders).

The Proxmire Workers Act of 1966 would be passed and signed into law by the President. Workers across the United States praise the President for helping the blue collar class. Republicans call the Proxmire Workers Act and the Voting Rights Act as 'political pandering' as the nation goes into the 1966 Midterm Elections. Although those bills will definitely help the Democrats, a looming issues begins to grow... Vietnam.

1964 Senatorial Elections

Democratic Party - 60 (0)
Republican Party - 40 (0)

1964 House Elections

Democratic Party - 250 (+22)
Republican Party - 185 (-22)
The Democrats retain their filibuster proof majority in the Senate, and even expand upon their majority in the House. Many credit the growth within the House to the Voting Rights Act and the Proxmire Workers Act, two bills that had major consequences on the Kennedy Coalition, solidifying the black community and the blue collar workers into the Kennedy Coalition.

President Kennedy has now seen a half decade of prosperity. The Administration beat a recession and ushered in record economic growth, supported massive Civil Rights reform, and (minus Bay of Pigs) have 'beaten' back the Soviets out of the Americas. President Kennedy had a popularity of almost 68%. But, a major issue arises, Vietnam. President Kennedy had devised a plan for the US involvement in Vietnam. He came to the conclusion that the US should help the Vietnamese through sending over an Officer Corp, but reaffirmed his position that it was "their (South Vietnam) war to win." This was much to the scrutiny from Military Officials and even Secretary McNamara, but Kennedy did not budge. He would not authorize a full ground force to be sent to Vietnam.

Throughout the later half of the 60's Kennedy would slowly withdraw US Officers and US Advisors, this happens due to the North slowly taking Southern cities (notably the Soviets also do not interfere in Vietnam). In 1967 the President of Vietnam Nguyen Van Thieu would flee from South Vietnam and go to Australia. The South Vietnamese Military Junta would then surrender to the Northern government. President Kennedy would offer protection within the US to some South Vietnamese officials, but by the end of 1967, the Vietnamese Civil War was over. Kennedy gave a speech to Congress on a special invite, he would be quoted as saying the following...



The President was met with harsh criticisms from Republicans and some even from within the Democratic party. He justified these criticisms by pointing the the fact that the North Vietnamese government was staunchly independent from China and even the Soviet Union. President Kennedy would also make it a point, that the situation in Vietnam had been deteriorating for a couple years now, and if the US had launched a true military operation the casualties were in the tens of thousands. The President would also make it clear that the North Vietnamese had a massive advantage after Diem's assassination and collapse was a "sad inevitable." Although there was originally a lot of anger and criticisms for Kennedy's position, it soon became a popular sentiment among Democrats.

(I don't really know how to make it known, but without the draft and Vietnam as a whole, the 'flower power' movement doesn't really happen to the extent it did IRL, which in and of itself would make the political climate going into 1968 much safer and less polarized.)
One third could filibuster then.
 
Camelots Shadow (p. 8)
With 1968 beginning, many look back on the Kennedy Administration and ponder, what would have happened if Kennedy didn't survive? Whatever weird theories come out of that, many people agree that the Kennedy Administration was one of greatness. Jackie Kennedy held a Gala at the White House honoring her husband and going through the achievements of his Administration and her closing speech had a notable quote, she had said...

"[...] Don't let it be forgot, that for a moment, one shining moment there was Camelot [...]"

For the upcoming elections, it was probably more difficult for the Democratic Party to find a nominee than it was for the Republicans, the Democrats had to figure out who would carry on the legacy of Kennedy. For the Democratic Primary there were three possible Nominees, the Front Runner was Senator Eugene McCarthy, the strong willed Kennedyite had experience, worked alongside Kennedy on multiple occasions, and was a powerhouse in the Senates Foreign Relations Committee. Then there was Senator Hubert Humphrey, Humphrey was a liberal Democrat, but openly criticized President Kennedy on some foreign policy issues, his Kennedy criticisms made him popular in the western more moderate states. Finally there was Lyndon B. Johnson, some would assume that Johnson would be the natural successor to Kennedy due to him being his Vice President, but it was widely known that there were a multitude of differentiating opinions on policy from the two. Johnson was also one of the last figures of the 'Southern Bloc' that used to make up a massive portion of the Democrats.

For the Republican Primary, there is Richard Nixon, Eisenhower's Vice President and the President Kennedy's first foe. Nixon is the clear front runner, but the strongest contender is Governor George Romney. Many people support Nixon as he is the more conservative nominee, but there were many more moderates that said that Nixon would be unable to win against Eugene McCarthy, Hubert Humphrey, and even Lyndon Johnson.
 

marktaha

Banned
With 1968 beginning, many look back on the Kennedy Administration and ponder, what would have happened if Kennedy didn't survive? Whatever weird theories come out of that, many people agree that the Kennedy Administration was one of greatness. Jackie Kennedy held a Gala at the White House honoring her husband and going through the achievements of his Administration and her closing speech had a notable quote, she had said...



For the upcoming elections, it was probably more difficult for the Democratic Party to find a nominee than it was for the Republicans, the Democrats had to figure out who would carry on the legacy of Kennedy. For the Democratic Primary there were three possible Nominees, the Front Runner was Senator Eugene McCarthy, the strong willed Kennedyite had experience, worked alongside Kennedy on multiple occasions, and was a powerhouse in the Senates Foreign Relations Committee. Then there was Senator Hubert Humphrey, Humphrey was a liberal Democrat, but openly criticized President Kennedy on some foreign policy issues, his Kennedy criticisms made him popular in the western more moderate states. Finally there was Lyndon B. Johnson, some would assume that Johnson would be the natural successor to Kennedy due to him being his Vice President, but it was widely known that there were a multitude of differentiating opinions on policy from the two. Johnson was also one of the last figures of the 'Southern Bloc' that used to make up a massive portion of the Democrats.

For the Republican Primary, there is Richard Nixon, Eisenhower's Vice President and the President Kennedy's first foe. Nixon is the clear front runner, but the strongest contender is Governor George Romney. Many people support Nixon as he is the more conservative nominee, but there were many more moderates that said that Nixon would be unable to win against Eugene McCarthy, Hubert Humphrey, and even Lyndon Johnson.
Jack.to.Bobby - when I'm through how about you? Would McCarthy have run without Vietnam?
 
Jack.to.Bobby - when I'm through how about you? Would McCarthy have run without Vietnam?
I personally think McCarty would've still run, I mean he had a strong campaign and he ran multiple times irl so even without Nam he may still. Bobby I didn't want to run because he has yet to be anything but AG, so he is gonna win NY Senate in '68
 
Camelots Shadow (p. 9)
August 26 - 29, 1968
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

The 1968 Democratic National Convention started off to a rocky start. Originally going to held in Chicago, certain Western Delegates (many of whom came from the Party Realignment) were not comfortable with a tight grasp Mayor Daley had, and petitioned for a more neutral area. Senator Proxmire suggested Milwaukee, a city from his home state and it was accepted.

Inside the Convention, people gave their speeches in support of one candidate or another, but Keynote Speaker, Attorney General Robert Kennedy's speech was the one most memorable...

"[...] We must come together this weekend and show that we will continue the work that needs to be done! When we gather here, this is not a blank ceremony, this is the continuation of the flesh and blood of our nation [...]"

Many people were shocked to hear Bobby Kennedy not endorse someone, this caused a major upswing in Humphrey's popularity and a negative impact on Johnson's. After several more speeches were heard, the first ballot was taken for the Democratic National Convention.

First Ballot
(1304 needed to win)
Eugene McCarthy - 1198
Hubert Humphrey - 982
Lyndon B. Johnson - 419
Other/Blank - 8
The first ballot showed a strong showing from Eugene McCarthy, but in a surprise turn Vice President Johnson got a total of 419 votes! Notably more conservative than the other two candidates, he received a fairly large chunk of the vote. Of course with no one yet nominated, we move to the second ballot!

Second Ballot
(1304 needed to win)
Eugene McCarthy - 1211
Hubert Humphrey - 978
Lyndon B. Johnson - 415
Other/Blank - 3
The second ballot showed continued growth for Eugene McCarthy, the loyal ally of President Kennedy, however Johnson has retained a good chunk of delegates, and he is in a good position to bargain. However, with dwindling support Humphrey could also make a play here. But, again next ballot...

Third Ballot
(1304 needed to win)
Eugene McCarthy - 2169
Hubert Humphrey - 49
Lyndon B. Johnson - 388
Other/Blank - 1
Out of the third ballot Eugene McCarthy has won the Democratic Nomination for President! Humphrey's endorsement of McCarthy is seen as the defining moment clearly. Some Johnson delegates switched to Humphrey in the hopes that Humphrey delegates may not support McCarthy, but to no avail. After the nomination of McCarthy, he endorses Hubert Humphrey to be nominated for the Vice Presidency, Humphrey is unanimously chosen.

As Eugene McCarthy accepted the nomination and his speech was famous for this quote...

"[...] As I stand before you today, I will promise you that I will finish the work that President Kennedy has started, I will do what is best for the nation. The United States of America will continue to be the shining beacon. The United State of America will be that Camelot [...]"​

Many people were happy to see McCarthy's promise to continue the work Kennedy had started, he even got applause from the Conservative Delegates. However many Conservatives express outward worry about such a liberal ticket.
 
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marktaha

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Surely he was little known nationally and only entered Presidential politics due to Vietnam. I still believe that Bobby would have run.
 
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