Viva Balbo! – An Alternate Duce, an Alternate Italy
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Thanks. I stole the idea for the alt boards from Dr. Strangelove.
Not sure if he stole the idea from someone else first. As to the question, they took him very seriously OTL. After all he was more than just a "barnstormer", by the time of that flight he'd turned the Blackshirts into a serious national paramilitary organization out of scattered groups. He'd also been Italy's Air Minister. He was already known as a skilled organizer and politician befoe the flights. And yes, the flights themselves, long-distance mass flights in a time without much experience there at all, took the type of organization that demanded attention.
Thanks! It took a while to squeeze this through RL, so I hope it was worth the wait. Took me longer than I'd hoped as well. Hope you like the rest!
Thanks, glad to have you on board.
'Torah Torah Torah' - that is brilliant!
Totally ripped it off from Christopher Moore.
But yea, so brilliant I had to steal it fair-and-square.One of only three threads I'm subscribed to (the others being Era of Limits and Tailgunner In The Driver's Seat).
It would seem you had a typo or were giving a calculated answer. Upthread you reponded to my query that the Savoy Throne was safe ITTL, yet in the post an Italian Republic is referenced as the current state.
So it would seem Fascism will fall in Italy in a manner similar to Francoist Spain. So Balbo will be the second and last Duce?
It is promising that Balbo is so controversial, it means that one can make a legitimate case in his favor.
The Jewish situation seems interesting. I am guessing Hitkler carried out mass deoprtation. Still a genocide of Slavs, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and the like though it would seem. While elders are not always right it is irritating to see youth not accord them respect. An elder should have to work to lose the respect due their station, I have seen it in my clan.
So it would seem Fascism will fall in Italy in a manner similar to Francoist Spain. So Balbo will be the second and last Duce?
It is promising that Balbo is so controversial, it means that one can make a legitimate case in his favor.
The Jewish situation seems interesting. I am guessing Hitkler carried out mass deoprtation. Still a genocide of Slavs, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and the like though it would seem. While elders are not always right it is irritating to see youth not accord them respect. An elder should have to work to lose the respect due their station, I have seen it in my clan.
Very interesting GK.
Surprised that Silvio B is around in this TL but sometimes we need a figure we can all recognise.
And I certainly liked the ContraHistoricus.com board with its completely made-up members Is there a Nerdoleon member perhaps?
Surprised that Silvio B is around in this TL but sometimes we need a figure we can all recognise.
And I certainly liked the ContraHistoricus.com board with its completely made-up members
Is there a Nerdoleon member perhaps? I like the update, but is the whole TL going to be present day lookig back at Balbo, or that time itself?
And, il Duce? That was Mussie's personal title and I doubt that anyone trying to continue his legacy (im sure Balbo will at least claim to do that) will take it.
I see that Libya is going to play quite a role (im sure some of that model colony stuff could be borrowed from an Empire Reborn) and that some coup is in order.
Seconded. Please don't kill the monarchy, there could be a cool Franco Spain scenario with Italy instead. (also, I dont want any of that New Rome stuff, Italy is fine for now )
Love it, keep it up.
Jim
And, il Duce? That was Mussie's personal title and I doubt that anyone trying to continue his legacy (im sure Balbo will at least claim to do that) will take it.
I see that Libya is going to play quite a role (im sure some of that model colony stuff could be borrowed from an Empire Reborn) and that some coup is in order.
Seconded. Please don't kill the monarchy, there could be a cool Franco Spain scenario with Italy instead. (also, I dont want any of that New Rome stuff, Italy is fine for now
)Love it, keep it up.
Jim
Thanks! As for Berlusconi...couldn't resist. The guy's pure chutzpah. He's like Ted Turner, Bill Clinton, and Dubya all wrapped up in one. Besides, I really get the feeling a man like him would find a real place in ATL politics as well. I totally see him as a "Balbian".
Thanks, I'm honored.
Using the term "Republic" was unintentional, but yes, Fascism will "fall" Francoesque - but note the continued existence of the Fascist Party! There will still be an Italian King...just as there's a British Queen OTL.
As for the Jews, the situation will be...complicated. Complicated and extremely controversial up to ATL "present day". You're on the right track. And yes, the divide between Youth and Elders is supposed to be noteworthy.
Very interesting GK.
Surprised that Silvio B is around in this TL but sometimes we need a figure we can all recognise.
And I certainly liked the ContraHistoricus.com board with its completely made-up members
Thanks, Professor. Heh...I'm not sure if "Nerdoleon" (or should it be Nerdicus? "I am Nerdicus!") will appear.
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Thanks. I stole the idea for the alt boards from Dr. Strangelove.
I am fairly sure I took the idea from somewhere else, but I can't for my life remember exactly where. Maybe it was inspired by DBWI threads in general. Btw, you are doing it far better than me.
Thanks! Hope the rest of the TL lives up to the expectations.
No surprise. Either way I liked the way you did it. Thanks for the complement, but yours is fine.
PS: congrats on the Turtledove for NSCW. Well deserved!
The day after the nuclear holocaust, the only things living in Italy will be cocroaches and Berlusconi.
And they will probably vote him as president, too.
lol . Seriously, this is good and I'd like to see more. Write now.
Oh and Berlusconi was born before the PoD so he might still go into politics.
. Seriously, this is good and I'd like to see more. Write now.Oh and Berlusconi was born before the PoD so he might still go into politics.
I have read that Balbo thought at a two parties system in long term.
Substantially the fascist party split in two:
conservatives and fascist-socialist,
and united to cristian democrat,liberals ( that in Italy are the equivalent of the Repubblican left center-wing),socialists not marxist.
This two parties system was in any case a bit authoritarian and elitist,but not an
dictatorship.
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