US and CS National Identities After CS Victory

[Johnrankins]

The problem with mining is the relative danger of the work, and the relative value of a slave as a financial asset.

Depends on where and how you mine. You can also make them ranchers if you wish. There isn't going to be a big population out there anyways,
it's a big desert.

 

[NothingNow]

The Confederates had Judah P. Benjamin though.

That, and Charleston had a fairly well established Jewish mercantile community that was pretty old. Hell, you had more established and moderately high profile Jews in the South than you did in the North anywhere but New York City (where you had a number of very high profile jews, but most of them were comparatively recent european transplants,) most of whom were heavily engaged in commerce and very well tied into their neighbors.
Hell, Commodore Uriah P. Levy's ancestors were among the founders of one of the oldest Jewish Congregations in the US (Kahal Kadosh Mickva Israel, in Savannah, founded 1735.)

 

[Johnrankins]

That, and Charleston had a fairly well established Jewish mercantile community that was pretty old. Hell, you had more established and moderately high profile Jews in the South than you did in the North anywhere but New York City (where you had a number of very high profile jews, but most of them were comparatively recent european transplants,) most of whom were heavily engaged in commerce and very well tied into their neighbors.
Hell, Commodore Uriah P. Levy's ancestors were among the founders of one of the oldest Jewish Congregations in the US (Kahal Kadosh Mickva Israel, in Savannah, founded 1735.)

You had Jewish communities in Milwaukee, Chicago and other cities. You had no shortage of Jews up North. More moved to the North then the South by all accounts.

 

[NothingNow]

You had Jewish communities in Milwaukee, Chicago and other cities. You had no shortage of Jews up North. More moved to the North then the South by all accounts.

Well, yes, but they weren't as successful, and were proportionately more likely to be attacked (seeing as the vast majority of Northern Jews, and american jews period (~90%) were recent (<15 Year) immigrants during the Civil war, and thus significantly more likely to incite nativist ire along side the usual anti-Semitism.

 

[King Gorilla]

Well, yes, but they weren't as successful, and were proportionately more likely to be attacked (seeing as the vast majority of Northern Jews, and american jews period (~90%) were recent (<15 Year) immigrants during the Civil war, and thus significantly more likely to incite nativist ire along side the usual anti-Semitism.

Well you are essentially dealing with the difference between 1st and 4th generation immigrants. There won't be nativist ire because most Southern Jews are native.

 

[MerryPrankster]

Hmm...anti-Semitic backlash in the U.S., maybe if Judah P. Benjamin manages to negotiate foreign recognition of the Confederacy or something like that?

This might lead to a more philo-Semitic Confederacy, especially if premillenial dispensationalism (the End Times theology that leads to many conservative Christians supporting Israel) becomes part of Southern churches.

In TTL, the Confederacy (if it lasts that long) becomes a supporter of Zionism, especially in the Holy Land and not in substitute sites like Uganda, while the U.S. defends the rights of Palestinians out of spite? And Jews might find the Confederacy friendlier than the North if there's an anti-Semitic backlash.

Perhaps TTL's American Jews might be more racist than OTL as a result of their mistreatment by a philo-black (to a point) society. This could even get theological, if they too start believing in the Curse of Ham or using OT rules about what ethnicities the Israelites were allowed to intermarry with to justify condemning interracial marriage.