Trying to Please Everyone: Or Converting multiple Pop Culture Utopias into a Timeline.

[TheDetailer]

Anne Frank survives and like in Footprints of Mussolini, becomes Prime Minister of Israel.

Jones Is never radicalized due to communism being less popular which contributed to his mindset and his church is exposed as a hoax. He moves to Cuba when a war takes place there and forces him to move to Brazil where he is killed in a shoot out.

Never killed.

So far largely the same as OTL.

Soviet Union failed to really be established and China fell to Civil War.

Cool! So what about these then?

- The Rodney King case and other police issues in America
- LGBT Rights and Representation
- Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Libya and the conflicts associated with them
- The Cambodian Genocide and the Khmer Rouge in the 1970s
- North Korea

 

[Marco Incognito]

Cool! So what about these then?

- The Rodney King case and other police issues in America

The Police Officers responsible should it still happen would not be acquitted, meaning no LA Riots. Other Police Issues is a bit too broad but there would be more restriction on guns akin to the UK. Police officers are required to return them at end of day. They can’t leave shooting ranges, and so on, though this obviously would t solve all problems, several real world cases wouldn’t happen.

- LGBT Rights and Representation

A bit broad also but better than OTL. I personally like the Kentucky Fried Politics BLUTAG label. It’s hard to say when representation would get better because technically most Greek mythological heroes were bisexual. it just wasn’t acknowledged. Dorothy Gale in later Oz Books has it implied.

- Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Libya and the conflicts associated with them

Afghanistan had no coup in 1973 and no Soviet Invasion which led to infighting within the country and the take over by the Taliban do not transpire, mainly due to the British and French keeping their agreements for territory during World War 1. The territory discussed would have included modern Iraq which came into existence as a British controlled mandate in 1920 and so it really doesn’t exist here to begin with except as part of a United Arabia. Same with Syria which was a French mandate. Libya the biggest change is Gaddafi’s death and failure to take power in 1969.

- The Cambodian Genocide and the Khmer Rouge in the 1970s

Wouldn't happen or exist with Chinese Communist support as the communists lost the chinese civil war and their support made up 90% of their power.

- North Korea

Wouldn’t exist for the same reason of a lack of Communist China.

 

[Sonny912]

Hey will Spielberg get to do his animated adaptation of cats?

 

[Marco Incognito]

Hey will Spielberg get to do his animated adaptation of cats?

Yes

 

[Sonny912]

Yes

Awesome.

 

[TheDetailer]

and media is a lot more respectful with the Mamy stereotype and Blackface not existing. So reduced by a lot but not gone regarding African American.

This timeline is largely anti-Blackface even then,

Blackface itself never took off ITTL.

I’m curious, if this is still canon, then I wonder how Blackface and minstrel shows are prevented from becoming massive ITTL.

 

[Marco Incognito]

I’m curious, if this is still canon, then I wonder how Blackface and minstrel shows are prevented from becoming massive ITTL.

Well it’s hard to pinpoint their exact origin. Allegedly they go back to at least 1441 where the Portuguese displayed captive Africans in the country and it was commonly done by plays in the Elizabethan era. Othello is a weird case as he was meant to be a Moor as England had an alliance with them at the time and their culture was popular but then Elizabeth died and James talked about another crusader and the average Englishman couldn’t really distinguish Moors from Ottomans, so making Othello very clearly black was a way of distinguishing him as separate from Turkish and Shakespeare used him being black for metaphor as the villains are the ones to insult him. If I went further back I would butterfly the play The Padlock, which led to the early use of blackface to play one character, but he was changed to an Irish Servant fairly recently and would be changed earlier ITTL which would possibly butterfly away the practice as a whole since it took off after this largely in the 1820's OTL, including the Thomas D.Rice song "Jump Jim Crow" which never existing would butterflying away the term "Jim Crow". Post-Civil War since Dan Emmett founded the first Blackface Minstrel show OTL and also composed Dixie, the practice would be further demonized, especially with the lost cause myth never becoming prominent and the South more severely punished. The Dreadnought Hoax in 1910 where several people wore blackface and pretended to be important visiting Abyssinians to Gain access to a military vessel would lead to backlash ITTL as they were caught and the government trying to make laws against it.

 

[TheDetailer]

Well it’s hard to pinpoint their exact origin. Allegedly they go back to at least 1441 where the Portuguese displayed captive Africans in the country and it was commonly done by plays in the Elizabethan era. Othello is a weird case as he was meant to be a Moor as England had an alliance with them at the time and their culture was popular but then Elizabeth died and James talked about another crusader and the average Englishman couldn’t really distinguish Moors from Ottomans, so making Othello very clearly black was a way of distinguishing him as separate from Turkish and Shakespeare used him being black for metaphor as the villains are the ones to insult him. If I went further back I would butterfly the play The Padlock, which led to the early use of blackface to play one character, but he was changed to an Irish Servant fairly recently and would be changed earlier ITTL which would possibly butterfly away the practice as a whole since it took off after this largely in the 1820's OTL, including the Thomas D.Rice song "Jump Jim Crow" which never existing would butterflying away the term "Jim Crow". Post-Civil War since Dan Emmett founded the first Blackface Minstrel show OTL and also composed Dixie, the practice would be further demonized, especially with the lost cause myth never becoming prominent and the South more severely punished. The Dreadnought Hoax in 1910 where several people wore blackface and pretended to be important visiting Abyssinians to Gain access to a military vessel would lead to backlash ITTL as they were caught and the government trying to make laws against it.

Great stuff!

I do wonder what would happen to Rice and Emmett ITTL.

Also, I strongly assume that Uncle Tom’s Cabin isn’t bastardised by stereotyping?

 

[Marco Incognito]

Great stuff!

I do wonder what would happen to Rice and Emmett ITTL.

Also, I strongly assume that Uncle Tom’s Cabin isn’t bastardised by stereotyping?

Rice was OTL struck with a kind of paralysis in 1840 that led to his death in 1860. ITTL it would strike earlier and thus signal the end of his career, which OTL the Blackface element was employed by him from 1832 to 1844, and after that included a blackface performance of Uncle Tom's Cabin(Butterflying away the bastardizing of it). It's unclear where he conceived the Jim Crow character but allegedly it was based on a person he met but this is disputed so it's difficult to exactly butterfly. Otherwise I would butterfly away that meeting and thus the Jim Crow Character.

Dan Emmett, butterflying away the earlier Dan Rice, wouldn't use Blackface. He was also appalled by how the South used Dixie during the Civil War saying if he'd known how they'd use it he wouldn't have written it. He made up for it by writing songs for the Union. ITTL he wrote the Union Version of Dixie as a middle finger towards the South. If you haven't heard it is here:

 

[TheDetailer]

Rice was OTL struck with a kind of paralysis in 1840 that led to his death in 1860. ITTL it would strike earlier and thus signal the end of his career, which OTL the Blackface element was employed by him from 1832 to 1844, and after that included a blackface performance of Uncle Tom's Cabin(Butterflying away the bastardizing of it). It's unclear where he conceived the Jim Crow character but allegedly it was based on a person he met but this is disputed so it's difficult to exactly butterfly. Otherwise I would butterfly away that meeting and thus the Jim Crow Character.

Dan Emmett, butterflying away the earlier Dan Rice, wouldn't use Blackface. He was also appalled by how the South used Dixie during the Civil War saying if he'd known how they'd use it he wouldn't have written it. He made up for it by writing songs for the Union. ITTL he wrote the Union Version of Dixie as a middle finger towards the South. If you haven't heard it is here:

This is all great!

Just some more questions about this subject matter about black stereotypes and civil rights: What happens to Harriet Beecher Stowe, Stephen Foster, Frederick Douglass, Ida B. Wells, and Helen Bannerman ITTL?

 

[Marco Incognito]

This is all great!

Just some more questions about this subject matter about black stereotypes and civil rights: What happens to Harriet Beecher Stowe, Stephen Foster, Frederick Douglass, Ida B. Wells, and Helen Bannerman ITTL?

Harriet Beecher Stowe is largely the same as OTL. as is Stephen Foster as only a few of his songs and performances used blackface and he himself stopped, suggesting he was just chasing a trend. Frederick Douglas would in an idealized timeline serve as President of the United States due to the assassination of Victoria Woodhull, both were OTL write in candidates in 1872. Wells could still expose several horrific elements but there'd be significantly less of them, and so they'd be mostly remembered as a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. Helen Bannerman seemed to have wished to create a positive black children's book hero and was misguided in this due to using racial slurs as character names. Having someone point out the problematic elements of this to them during the conception of the book would have alleviated some of this. By contrast a similar character, the Golliwog, would simply not exist due to being based off a minstrel show doll the author owned that would have been discontinued or never made due to the butterflies.

 

[TheDetailer]

Harriet Beecher Stowe is largely the same as OTL. as is Stephen Foster as only a few of his songs and performances used blackface and he himself stopped, suggesting he was just chasing a trend. Frederick Douglas would in an idealized timeline serve as President of the United States due to the assassination of Victoria Woodhull, both were OTL write in candidates in 1872. Wells could still expose several horrific elements but there'd be significantly less of them, and so they'd be mostly remembered as a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. Helen Bannerman seemed to have wished to create a positive black children's book hero and was misguided in this due to using racial slurs as character names. Having someone point out the problematic elements of this to them during the conception of the book would have alleviated some of this. By contrast a similar character, the Golliwog, would simply not exist due to being based off a minstrel show doll the author owned that would have been discontinued or never made due to the butterflies.

Good stuff, I was also wondering about the Golliwog doll.

Just one more question so I’m not overwhelming you with them today: Is there anything significantly different about the OTL Civil Rights Movement from 1954 to 1968 ITTL? Besides some obvious stuff like Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. surviving?

 

[Marco Incognito]

Good stuff, I was also wondering about the Golliwog doll.

Just one more question so I’m not overwhelming you with them today: Is there anything significantly different about the OTL Civil Rights Movement from 1954 to 1968 ITTL? Besides some obvious stuff like Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. surviving?

That's not specific enough.

 

[TheDetailer]

That's not specific enough.

Oh, well I just mean with all of these successes for earlier civil rights early on in American history during the 19th century what does the civil rights movement for African Americans we know IOTL in the 1950s and 1960s look like ITTL? Is there anything of significance that changes?

 

[Marco Incognito]

Oh, well I just mean with all of these successes for earlier civil rights early on in American history during the 19th century what does the civil rights movement for African Americans we know IOTL in the 1950s and 1960s look like ITTL? Is there anything of significance that changes?

Not really because the focus would be on Post-1900. Anything before that is just hypothetical and is considered non-canon.

 

[TheDetailer]

Not really because the focus would be on Post-1900. Anything before that is just hypothetical and is considered non-canon.

Fair enough then.

What will be the next post be about?

 

[Marco Incognito]

Fair enough then.

What will be the next post be about?

Working on DragonGod, the finale to TTL"s Dragonball and also 1996 in Anime.

 

[Marco Incognito]

DragonGod(1995-1999)
Toei Animation wanted another series and intended to go through with the series regardless of Toriyama's involvement. Toriyama, originally considered himself done with the series, but decided that since the series would go on without him, chose to participate. Using his authority he overrode the ideas for the series such as turning Goku into a child.

Battle of Gods Saga
The Series is set 10 years after the Majin Buu Saga and continues from the epilogue. The outcome of the fight is not shown but Goku and Videl’s daughter Pan finishes a fight with Vegeta’s daughter Bra. A Strange ship then arrives on Earth and makes a declaration that it comes from another universe and that the Gods have decided to hold a tournament between the universes, with the main universe classified as Universe 7. Beerus, the God of Destruction(who resembles the Egyptian God Anubis[1]) arrives on Earth with his angel assistant Whis. They explain that the Supreme Being(Who is never seen) has determined that the multiverse must be thinned. The specific cluster they are in has 12 Universes. 4 are off limits but 8 must be removed. The group also meet the being Zamasu, who is tasked with destroying alternate universes. Zamasu has sensed a disruption within the multiverse which the Fighters learn was caused by the “Future Timeline” from the Cyborg Saga(known as Universe 9), but the Universe 7 Bulma lies and says she created the Time Machine and claims responsibility. Universe 7 is then sentenced to be punished in the tournament.

Each Universe must choose up to 10 fighters. The two Universes will then begin merging. The only way to stop this is by killing the 10 chosen fighters of one of the universes, unless the chosen fighter forfeits. If all 10 fighters from one universe are killed, defeated or forfeit, it will be erased. Forfeiting will result in the fighter being allowed to live in the victor’s universe. Zamasu decides to punish Universe 7 by holding them back intentionally so that they will fight an opponent of his choice who has already won a round.

The Fighters begin to assemble their team. It is revealed that due to the stakes they are able to revive dead fighters for as long as the tournament lasts. Living members who join the team include Goku, Piccolo, Kururin, Broly, Goten, Majin Buu, and Android 21. They also choose to revive Tantong, Vegeta, and Raditz, who have all been training in the afterlife since their deaths.

Universe 6 is revealed to the Audience. In the Universe, The Kais learned of Bibidi’s plan to create Majin Buu and attacked his lab. While Bibidi attempted to release the creature, when Buu’s pod opened there was nothing inside as there was not enough energy. The Kais killed Bibidi. They went onto prevent other threats such as Frieza’s Descendants, the Legendary Super Saiyan and others. On Planet Sadala, the home of the Saiyans(later renamed to Vegeta in the main universe), they interfered in a civil war and allowed the good hearted Saiyans to triumph. The Kais then chose to train a kind hearted Saiyan named Yamoshi as their champion and he became the first Super Saiyan God. The Saiyans became a force for good and the only living Frost Demon, named Frost, is heroic[2].

The Five Supreme Kais make up half the roster. The second half includes Frost, the Assassin Hit, Yamoshi, and the Saiyans Cabba and Kaulifa.

Beerus agrees to train one of the warriors in achieving the form of Super Saiyan God which Yamoshi achieved. Five kindhearted Saiyans are needed. Tangtong, Vegeta, Raditz, Broly and Pan take part in the ritual and give Goku the power. He battles Beerus and while he still loses, Beerus is impressed and agrees to continue to train him, Tangtong, Vegeta and Broly.

However, the actual battle goes better than expected. Universe 6’s Earth was destroyed long ago. The Five Supreme Kais appear on the Sacred World of the Kais, but Kibito Kai is happy to see them and all refuse to fight. There are two version of East Supreme Kai and they decide to fuse together using the Potara earrings so there will only be one.

art by Gerelksombra

Planet Sadala appears where Planet Vegeta used to be. A Battle ensues between the Universe 7 Warriors and the Universe 6 Warriors. During the battle, Goku learns that Kaulifa is actually one of two survivors from a previously defeated universe, specifically they were that Universe’s versions of Goku with the other survivor, Kale, Kaulifa’s sister, being that universe’s equivalent of Broly. Their team appeared to be a genderbent version of Universe 7 with some implied differences(The female Vegeta equivalent evidently recruited Kaulifa on Earth rather than directly fighting them), but were all killed by Yamoshi except for Kaulifa, Kale and another fighter named Vumi[3], who realized the battle was lost, but were given the option by Yamoshi to use the Super Dragonballs to revive their world and so forfeited after being defeated seconds before the timer ran out.

The Universe 7 team began losing to Yamoshi. Vegeta finds himself teaching the Saiyan Cabba during their fight as he has yet to achieve Super Saiyan, only numerous Zenkai Boosts and vows to train him. Goku makes a similar promise to Kaulifa, who rather than wishing to make themselves stronger, instead insists that everyone within their group receive the same training, as such they refused to be the only one granted the Super Saiyan God Power and it was split up between the Saiyans present instead, which led to them losing when Yamoshi challenged them to a tournament one at a time instead of all at once to exploit this weakness. Kaulifa and Kale join the fight against Yamoshi and while they and the Universe 7 team lose, Yamoshi surprises everyone by forfeiting upon learning that the Universe 7 Saiyans are largely dead, intending to replace them with his own heroic versions. The other fighters agree and Universe 6 is declared the loser by forfeit, angering Zamasu but he reluctantly accepts this as there was still one less universe. Yamoshi agreed to train the Saiyans along with Beerus, which now includes Kaulifa and Kale. On Earth, it is revealed that another group of Universe 6 natives were brought over. This includes Dr.Hedo, who is the head of a heroic version of the Red Ribbon Army called Red Robotics that manufacture robot heroes.

Zamasu Saga
Zamasu organizes a match between the “Future” Universe and what is dubbed Universe 3. In this Universe, Bardock challenged King Vegeta for the throne after getting his visions and won, gathering the Saiyans and in a combined attack, destroyed Frieza as he was transforming along with his ships. The Saiyans then spent years battling King Cold and Cooler. There remains an opposition led by the alien scientist Dr.Raichi, which includes the heroes Tapion and Earth’s ruler Demon King Piccolo. The three agree reluctantly to team up with the Saiyans to save their universe. Their Team consisted of Bardock, Gine, Tangtong, Vegeta, Raditz, Nappa, Dr.Raichi, Broly, Tapion, and Demon King Piccolo. Since Trunks’s Universe has been devastated. It only has Trunks and Android 16 to defend it. Universe 7 volunteers to help protect it by volunteering 8 fighters in Yamoshi, Goku, Vegeta, Tangong, Broly, Majin Buu, Android 21, and Piccolo. Zamasu intentionally gives the rival Universe an advantage by allowing him to possess one of their fighters. He chooses Kakarot, as he had been granted immortality by the Dragonballs.

The fight begins. During the battle the resistance of Dr.Raichi, Tapion and Demon King Piccolo switch sides but prioritize killing the Saiyans from their universe. To the shock of many, Yamoshi is killed by Zamasu. Raichi reveals his supercomputer Hatchiyack, that allows him to summon dead fighters. Tapion is confronted by “Future” Trunks, who recognizes him. A flashback is shown where Tapion, a traveling hero, arrived on Earth to fight the Androids after befriending Trunks. He was killed but passed his sword onto Trunks before dying. It is explained that in Universe 7 he opposed Frieza for a few years but never came to Earth since it had its own defenders. The Universe 9 Tangtong, Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz are killed by Hatchiyack. Universe 7 Broly kills his counterpart from Universe 9 only for them to be added to Hatchiyack. Zamasu proves too much and the group is forced to flee to their universe. The Bardock, Gine, Tapion, and Demon King Piccolo of Universe 9 retreat with the group. They explain the situation to Beerus, who declares Zamasu had broken the rules.

One group takes the fight directly to Zamasu to save the “Future” Universe while Raichi attacks Planet Sadala. The Good Saiyans are slaughtered with Cabba and Kaulifa watching Kale be killed. This causes Cabba to go Super Saiyan during the fight. Bardock and Gine arrive to help with Bardock determined not to lose another homeworld and using his visions of the future to help in the fight. Bardock bonds with Kaulifa, commenting that was the name that Gine would have given their daughter if they had one. While the warriors succeed in breaking Hatchiyack, causing all the ghosts to disappear, a second weapon is revealed in mind controlling nanites that infect most of the fighters into attacking Earth, where most of the remaining fighters such as Videl, Tien, Yamcha, Kururin, Pan, Bra and others fight them until Bulma is able to invent a way to expel the nanites and the cure is spread into the atmosphere. Demon King Piccolo is killed saving his “Son” Piccolo.

In the “Future” Timeline, The warriors there including Beerus, battle Zamasu with Goku and Vegeta fusing together as Gogeta. They defuse but Future Trunks is able to land the killing blow by using the Spirit Bomb to empower his sword, cutting Zamasu vertically and finally killing him.

In the aftermath, Piccolo arrives on Universe 9 and is mistaken for Demon King Piccolo, with everyone in fear of him. He decides to take advantage of this to help rebuild Earth under his rule. He spits out an egg that he intends to train as his son and eventual heir. Dr.Hedo and the heroic Red Robotics ironically move into the Future Timeline to try and help it rebuild. Tapion departs into Universe 7 to find his other self. The Grand Priest arrives and reveals the Supreme Being has decreed the tournament will continue into the final round with Universe 7 fighting Universe 11. The Grand Priest is about to destroy the “Future Universe but with Zamasu dead, a new Kai appears and declares there must be a Supreme Kai of Time and protects Trunks and his universe by declaring they will establish that timeline as their base of operations.

Tournament of Power Saga
Universe 11 is revealed to be a universe where Kururin killed Vegeta before he could escape on Earth. The group then went to Namek. Piccolo was killed by Zarbon, who just saw him as another Namekian warrior(something which Vegeta prevented in the original story). This causes Kami and the Dragonballs to disappear on Earth. Zarbon then attacked Elder Guru’s home without having to bring Vegeta back to the ship and was killed after a long fight by Nail. Nail, Goku and Kururin then hatched a plan to have Nail distract Frieza while Kururin and Goku stole the Dragonballs. Frieza caught on and killed Nail before destroying a large area just as Kururin and Goku were going to make their first wish. Frieza then killed Tien, Yamcha and Yajirobe when they arrived. Since then the Frost Demon Family has continued to rule the Universe. The remaining Namekians including Guru fused together, rending the Dragonballs as inert but creating a powerful singular Namekian that continues to defy Frieza. Another group that rose up to fight Frieza were the Elite Galactic Patrol including leader Jiren, speedster member Dyspo, and experimental superhuman Jiren. On Earth, Cell rose to power before departing. Majin Buu was also revived and continues to be a threat. The Universe 11 team consists of: Frieza, Cooler, King Cold, Cell, Majin Buu, Dabura, The Super Namekian. Jiren, Toppo, and Dyspo. It is revealed that Zamasu, in case he lost, trained this universe’s Frieza into obtaining God Ki.

When the Battle begins The Super Namekian, Jiren, Toppo and Dyspo attack the Frost Demons. Frieza chooses to flee. Cooler, King Cold, Majin Buu, Bobidi and Dabura are killed. The Galactic Patrol state that they intend to kill the Universe 7 team to protect their own universe but fully expect to win, choosing instead to liberate the worlds the Frost Demons conquered. Frieza flees to Universe 7 and meets Frost, who he begins corrupting by claiming to also be heroic as Frost quickly rises up as a member of the Galactic Patrol, recruiting members across the galaxy in secret. Broly, having recently joined the Galactic Patrol along with other Saiyans like Cabba, meets and falls for a new member named Cheelai. Cell attacks Universe 7 and is defeated in an intense rematch with Goku with the aid of Android 21. The Wizard Bobbidi is found to have escaped and use this dark powers on Universe 7's Tapion, trying to turn him into a vessel for dark power only for Tapion of Universe 3 to find and mercy kill lhim to prevent the evil within him from being unleashed. Bobbidi then retreats and begins working to revive another great evil he is hoping will be superior to Majin Buu.

As the Universe 7 team has their final showdown on Namek against Jiren, Toppo, and Dyspo. Goku, Tangontg and Vegeta are occupied by the appearance of Bobbidi's newest monster Janemba who they have to fuse to defeat. They arrive late and exhausted but resume the fight. The fight seems to be a losing battle until Frieza arrives with Goku and Vegeta both being defeated by his new power and even the Galactic Patrol releasing their most dangerous prisoner Moro is not enough and he is killed by Frieza. While Toppo and Dyspo are killed in intense battles against Universe 7, Jiren defeats Kefla, a fusion of Kaulifa and Kale brought back by Fortuneteller Baba. The time limit approaches, forcing Goku and Frieza to team up, with Frieza forfeiting to not be erased. They work together and finally defeat Jiren seconds before the timer ends. Jiren forfeits, meaning Universe 7 wins. Jiren then casually kills Frieza with a flick of his finger and accepts his new role, joining Universe 7’s Galactic Patrol and leaving to protect the universe with the other Galactic Patrollers and the recruits such as Broly, Cheelai and Cabba.

After a wish on the Super Dragonballs brings back the destroyed Universes, Tangtong, Vegeta and Raditz say goodbye to their families as they prepare to return to the afterlife. Tangtong and Vegeta decide to have one final fight and depart into the universe. A Supernova is detected and they are afterwards never seen again. Piccolo and Trunks occasionally visit from their respective new universes. Pan and Bra become the protectors of Earth and the world enjoys a long period of peace.

Notes
[1] OTL Akira Toriyama based Beerus on a cat he had at the time of Dragonball Super, which is not the case given the earlier time frame.

[2] To flip the script, The Universes are mixes of Universes from the fan comic Dragonball Multiverse, making them divergent timelines instead. Of course, Dragonball Super later used the same idea but made each universe completely different.

[3] Vumi would most likely be TTL's equivalent to OTL Android 21(the name of which applies to the heroic version of Cell ITTL) but appearing much earlier. They are most likely a combination of their main self, Dr.Gero, Cell, and Majin Buu. They likely began in the Gero role by creating the Androids, but didn't go out on themselves, found the sealed up Majin Buu and turned themselves into a Cell-like being with their DNA, but their consciousness was split into a good and evil version with the evil version being killed by the spirit bomb and the good version surviving.​

 

[Ninja2006]

View attachment 882684
DragonGod(1995-1999)
Toei Animation wanted another series and intended to go through with the series regardless of Toriyama's involvement. Toriyama, originally considered himself done with the series, but decided that since the series would go on without him, chose to participate. Using his authority he overrode the ideas for the series such as turning Goku into a child.

Battle of Gods Saga
The Series is set 10 years after the Majin Buu Saga and continues from the epilogue. The outcome of the fight is not shown but Goku and Videl’s daughter Pan finishes a fight with Vegeta’s daughter Bra. A Strange ship then arrives on Earth and makes a declaration that it comes from another universe and that the Gods have decided to hold a tournament between the universes, with the main universe classified as Universe 7. Beerus, the God of Destruction(who resembles the Egyptian God Anubis[1]) arrives on Earth with his angel assistant Whis. They explain that the Supreme Being(Who is never seen) has determined that the multiverse must be thinned. The specific cluster they are in has 12 Universes. 4 are off limits but 8 must be removed. The group also meet the being Zamasu, who is tasked with destroying alternate universes. Zamasu has sensed a disruption within the multiverse which the Fighters learn was caused by the “Future Timeline” from the Cyborg Saga(known as Universe 9), but the Universe 7 Bulma lies and says she created the Time Machine and claims responsibility. Universe 7 is then sentenced to be punished in the tournament.

Each Universe must choose up to 10 fighters. The two Universes will then begin merging. The only way to stop this is by killing the 10 chosen fighters of one of the universes, unless the chosen fighter forfeits. If all 10 fighters from one universe are killed, defeated or forfeit, it will be erased. Forfeiting will result in the fighter being allowed to live in the victor’s universe. Zamasu decides to punish Universe 7 by holding them back intentionally so that they will fight an opponent of his choice who has already won a round.

The Fighters begin to assemble their team. It is revealed that due to the stakes they are able to revive dead fighters for as long as the tournament lasts. Living members who join the team include Goku, Piccolo, Kururin, Broly, Goten, Majin Buu, and Android 21. They also choose to revive Tantong, Vegeta, and Raditz, who have all been training in the afterlife since their deaths.

Universe 6 is revealed to the Audience. In the Universe, The Kais learned of Bibidi’s plan to create Majin Buu and attacked his lab. While Bibidi attempted to release the creature, when Buu’s pod opened there was nothing inside as there was not enough energy. The Kais killed Bibidi. They went onto prevent other threats such as Frieza’s Descendants, the Legendary Super Saiyan and others. On Planet Sadala, the home of the Saiyans(later renamed to Vegeta in the main universe), they interfered in a civil war and allowed the good hearted Saiyans to triumph. The Kais then chose to train a kind hearted Saiyan named Yamoshi as their champion and he became the first Super Saiyan God. The Saiyans became a force for good and the only living Frost Demon, named Frost, is heroic[2].

The Five Supreme Kais make up half the roster. The second half includes Frost, the Assassin Hit, Yamoshi, and the Saiyans Cabba and Kaulifa.

Beerus agrees to train one of the warriors in achieving the form of Super Saiyan God which Yamoshi achieved. Five kindhearted Saiyans are needed. Tangtong, Vegeta, Raditz, Broly and Pan take part in the ritual and give Goku the power. He battles Beerus and while he still loses, Beerus is impressed and agrees to continue to train him, Tangtong, Vegeta and Broly.

However, the actual battle goes better than expected. Universe 6’s Earth was destroyed long ago. The Five Supreme Kais appear on the Sacred World of the Kais, but Kibito Kai is happy to see them and all refuse to fight. There are two version of East Supreme Kai and they decide to fuse together using the Potara earrings so there will only be one.

View attachment 882719
art by Gerelksombra

Planet Sadala appears where Planet Vegeta used to be. A Battle ensues between the Universe 7 Warriors and the Universe 6 Warriors. During the battle, Goku learns that Kaulifa is actually one of two survivors from a previously defeated universe, specifically they were that Universe’s versions of Goku with the other survivor, Kale, Kaulifa’s sister, being that universe’s equivalent of Broly. Their team appeared to be a genderbent version of Universe 7 with some implied differences(The female Vegeta equivalent evidently recruited Kaulifa on Earth rather than directly fighting them), but were all killed by Yamoshi except for Kaulifa, Kale and another fighter named Vumi[3], who realized the battle was lost, but were given the option by Yamoshi to use the Super Dragonballs to revive their world and so forfeited after being defeated seconds before the timer ran out.

The Universe 7 team began losing to Yamoshi. Vegeta finds himself teaching the Saiyan Cabba during their fight as he has yet to achieve Super Saiyan, only numerous Zenkai Boosts and vows to train him. Goku makes a similar promise to Kaulifa, who rather than wishing to make themselves stronger, instead insists that everyone within their group receive the same training, as such they refused to be the only one granted the Super Saiyan God Power and it was split up between the Saiyans present instead, which led to them losing when Yamoshi challenged them to a tournament one at a time instead of all at once to exploit this weakness. Kaulifa and Kale join the fight against Yamoshi and while they and the Universe 7 team lose, Yamoshi surprises everyone by forfeiting upon learning that the Universe 7 Saiyans are largely dead, intending to replace them with his own heroic versions. The other fighters agree and Universe 6 is declared the loser by forfeit, angering Zamasu but he reluctantly accepts this as there was still one less universe. Yamoshi agreed to train the Saiyans along with Beerus, which now includes Kaulifa and Kale. On Earth, it is revealed that another group of Universe 6 natives were brought over. This includes Dr.Hedo, who is the head of a heroic version of the Red Ribbon Army called Red Robotics that manufacture robot heroes.

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Zamasu Saga
Zamasu organizes a match between the “Future” Universe and what is dubbed Universe 3. In this Universe, Bardock challenged King Vegeta for the throne after getting his visions and won, gathering the Saiyans and in a combined attack, destroyed Frieza as he was transforming along with his ships. The Saiyans then spent years battling King Cold and Cooler. There remains an opposition led by the alien scientist Dr.Raichi, which includes the heroes Tapion and Earth’s ruler Demon King Piccolo. The three agree reluctantly to team up with the Saiyans to save their universe. Their Team consisted of Bardock, Gine, Tangtong, Vegeta, Raditz, Nappa, Dr.Raichi, Broly, Tapion, and Demon King Piccolo. Since Trunks’s Universe has been devastated. It only has Trunks and Android 16 to defend it. Universe 7 volunteers to help protect it by volunteering 8 fighters in Yamoshi, Goku, Vegeta, Tangong, Broly, Majin Buu, Android 21, and Piccolo. Zamasu intentionally gives the rival Universe an advantage by allowing him to possess one of their fighters. He chooses Kakarot, as he had been granted immortality by the Dragonballs.

The fight begins. During the battle the resistance of Dr.Raichi, Tapion and Demon King Piccolo switch sides but prioritize killing the Saiyans from their universe. To the shock of many, Yamoshi is killed by Zamasu. Raichi reveals his supercomputer Hatchiyack, that allows him to summon dead fighters. Tapion is confronted by “Future” Trunks, who recognizes him. A flashback is shown where Tapion, a traveling hero, arrived on Earth to fight the Androids after befriending Trunks. He was killed but passed his sword onto Trunks before dying. It is explained that in Universe 7 he opposed Frieza for a few years but never came to Earth since it had its own defenders. The Universe 9 Tangtong, Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz are killed by Hatchiyack. Universe 7 Broly kills his counterpart from Universe 9 only for them to be added to Hatchiyack. Zamasu proves too much and the group is forced to flee to their universe. The Bardock, Gine, Tapion, and Demon King Piccolo of Universe 9 retreat with the group. They explain the situation to Beerus, who declares Zamasu had broken the rules.

One group takes the fight directly to Zamasu to save the “Future” Universe while Raichi attacks Planet Sadala. The Good Saiyans are slaughtered with Cabba and Kaulifa watching Kale be killed. This causes Cabba to go Super Saiyan during the fight. Bardock and Gine arrive to help with Bardock determined not to lose another homeworld and using his visions of the future to help in the fight. Bardock bonds with Kaulifa, commenting that was the name that Gine would have given their daughter if they had one. While the warriors succeed in breaking Hatchiyack, causing all the ghosts to disappear, a second weapon is revealed in mind controlling nanites that infect most of the fighters into attacking Earth, where most of the remaining fighters such as Videl, Tien, Yamcha, Kururin, Pan, Bra and others fight them until Bulma is able to invent a way to expel the nanites and the cure is spread into the atmosphere. Demon King Piccolo is killed saving his “Son” Piccolo.

In the “Future” Timeline, The warriors there including Beerus, battle Zamasu with Goku and Vegeta fusing together as Gogeta. They defuse but Future Trunks is able to land the killing blow by using the Spirit Bomb to empower his sword, cutting Zamasu vertically and finally killing him.

In the aftermath, Piccolo arrives on Universe 9 and is mistaken for Demon King Piccolo, with everyone in fear of him. He decides to take advantage of this to help rebuild Earth under his rule. He spits out an egg that he intends to train as his son and eventual heir. Dr.Hedo and the heroic Red Robotics ironically move into the Future Timeline to try and help it rebuild. Tapion departs into Universe 7 to find his other self. The Grand Priest arrives and reveals the Supreme Being has decreed the tournament will continue into the final round with Universe 7 fighting Universe 11. The Grand Priest is about to destroy the “Future Universe but with Zamasu dead, a new Kai appears and declares there must be a Supreme Kai of Time and protects Trunks and his universe by declaring they will establish that timeline as their base of operations.

Tournament of Power Saga
Universe 11 is revealed to be a universe where Kururin killed Vegeta before he could escape on Earth. The group then went to Namek. Piccolo was killed by Zarbon, who just saw him as another Namekian warrior(something which Vegeta prevented in the original story). This causes Kami and the Dragonballs to disappear on Earth. Zarbon then attacked Elder Guru’s home without having to bring Vegeta back to the ship and was killed after a long fight by Nail. Nail, Goku and Kururin then hatched a plan to have Nail distract Frieza while Kururin and Goku stole the Dragonballs. Frieza caught on and killed Nail before destroying a large area just as Kururin and Goku were going to make their first wish. Frieza then killed Tien, Yamcha and Yajirobe when they arrived. Since then the Frost Demon Family has continued to rule the Universe. The remaining Namekians including Guru fused together, rending the Dragonballs as inert but creating a powerful singular Namekian that continues to defy Frieza. Another group that rose up to fight Frieza were the Elite Galactic Patrol including leader Jiren, speedster member Dyspo, and experimental superhuman Jiren. On Earth, Cell rose to power before departing. Majin Buu was also revived and continues to be a threat. The Universe 11 team consists of: Frieza, Cooler, King Cold, Cell, Majin Buu, Dabura, The Super Namekian. Jiren, Toppo, and Dyspo. It is revealed that Zamasu, in case he lost, trained this universe’s Frieza into obtaining God Ki.

When the Battle begins The Super Namekian, Jiren, Toppo and Dyspo attack the Frost Demons. Frieza chooses to flee. Cooler, King Cold, Majin Buu, Bobidi and Dabura are killed. The Galactic Patrol state that they intend to kill the Universe 7 team to protect their own universe but fully expect to win, choosing instead to liberate the worlds the Frost Demons conquered. Frieza flees to Universe 7 and meets Frost, who he begins corrupting by claiming to also be heroic as Frost quickly rises up as a member of the Galactic Patrol, recruiting members across the galaxy in secret. Broly, having recently joined the Galactic Patrol along with other Saiyans like Cabba, meets and falls for a new member named Cheelai. Cell attacks Universe 7 and is defeated in an intense rematch with Goku with the aid of Android 21. The Wizard Bobbidi is found to have escaped and use this dark powers on Universe 7's Tapion, trying to turn him into a vessel for dark power only for Tapion of Universe 3 to find and mercy kill lhim to prevent the evil within him from being unleashed. Bobbidi then retreats and begins working to revive another great evil he is hoping will be superior to Majin Buu.

As the Universe 7 team has their final showdown on Namek against Jiren, Toppo, and Dyspo. Goku, Tangontg and Vegeta are occupied by the appearance of Bobbidi's newest monster Janemba who they have to fuse to defeat. They arrive late and exhausted but resume the fight. The fight seems to be a losing battle until Frieza arrives with Goku and Vegeta both being defeated by his new power and even the Galactic Patrol releasing their most dangerous prisoner Moro is not enough and he is killed by Frieza. While Toppo and Dyspo are killed in intense battles against Universe 7, Jiren defeats Kefla, a fusion of Kaulifa and Kale brought back by Fortuneteller Baba. The time limit approaches, forcing Goku and Frieza to team up, with Frieza forfeiting to not be erased. They work together and finally defeat Jiren seconds before the timer ends. Jiren forfeits, meaning Universe 7 wins. Jiren then casually kills Frieza with a flick of his finger and accepts his new role, joining Universe 7’s Galactic Patrol and leaving to protect the universe with the other Galactic Patrollers and the recruits such as Broly, Cheelai and Cabba.

After a wish on the Super Dragonballs brings back the destroyed Universes, Tangtong, Vegeta and Raditz say goodbye to their families as they prepare to return to the afterlife. Tangtong and Vegeta decide to have one final fight and depart into the universe. A Supernova is detected and they are afterwards never seen again. Piccolo and Trunks occasionally visit from their respective new universes. Pan and Bra become the protectors of Earth and the world enjoys a long period of peace.

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Notes
[1] OTL Akira Toriyama based Beerus on a cat he had at the time of Dragonball Super, which is not the case given the earlier time frame.

[2] To flip the script, The Universes are mixes of Universes from the fan comic Dragonball Multiverse, making them divergent timelines instead. Of course, Dragonball Super later used the same idea but made each universe completely different.

[3] Vumi would most likely be TTL's equivalent to OTL Android 21(the name of which applies to the heroic version of Cell ITTL) but appearing much earlier. They are most likely a combination of their main self, Dr.Gero, Cell, and Majin Buu. They likely began in the Gero role by creating the Androids, but didn't go out on themselves, found the sealed up Majin Buu and turned themselves into a Cell-like being with their DNA, but their consciousness was split into a good and evil version with the evil version being killed by the spirit bomb and the good version surviving.​

Cool! Would this be the end of the franchise, or would there be more?

 

[Marco Incognito]

Cool! Would this be the end of the franchise, or would there be more?

There would be more but in a different form since ITTL Toriyama wanted to take a break just as OTL. There may be another installment sometime later on similar to the Dragonball Renaissance but that was triggered by Toriyama's dissatisfaction with the live action Dragonball: Evolution, which could be butterflied away for a few reasons. One is it came about when 20th Century Fox gained the rights to Dragonball in 2002 and also its release of 2009 would coincide close to when TTL does Jump World which is a massive crossover of Shonen Jump's properties and with Cinematic Universes in general being more common ITTL(Just last year in 2008, George Miller's Justice League Movie would have come out), they'd want to possibly do a cinematic universe of their. There's also plans to do a DragonMan/DC Crossover where Planet Vegeta and Planet Krypton switch universes, following Superman in the DragonMan Universe and Tangtong and then Goku in the DC Universe titled Dragon SuperMan and Super DragonMan respectively.