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Weapon Profile: Warrenton-class Aircraft Carrier
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    Ship Class Profile
    United States Navy Aircraft Carriers

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    USS Warrenton (CV-44) photographed leaving San Diego Naval Base in San Diego, California on July 16, 1999 for Fleet Problem 22 with the US East Pacific Fleet.​

    Class Name: Warrenton-class aircraft carrier (AKA the Southern Battles-class)

    In Service: 1977 - present (as of 2000)

    Ship List: 5 ships
    • USS Warrenton (CV-44)
    • USS Richmond (CV-45)
    • USS Vicksburg (CV-46)
    • USS Nashville (CV-47)
    • USS Shiloh Landing (CV-48)
    Armament:
    • 6 x 12 cell RIM-23 Sea Trail anti-air missile launchers (24 missiles each launcher)
    • 10 x 25mm Skylance CIWS batteries
    Aircraft (Standard Loadout circa 1979):
    Displacement: 71,951 long tons (80,585 t)

    Speed:     35 knots (65 km/h; 41 mph)

    Range: 12,500 nautical miles (23,150 km; 14,384 mi) at 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph)

    Complement:     5,718 officers and men (Asian-Pacific War)

    Notes: Aircraft Manufacturers are listed here:
    • Marchand Aviation (founded July 26, 1941 by Tom Marchand in Providence, Rhode Island)
    • Whitchurch Aircraft (founded November 7, 1928 by Randall Whitchurch in Tillamook Bay, Oregon)
    • Snowberger Reimann Aerospace (merger between Snowberger Aircraft and Reimann Corporation on June 6, 1967 in Fairfield, Connecticut)
    • Lambright Helicopter Consortium (founded April 11, 1952 by Jack Lambright in Willmar, Minnesota)

    Ship Notes: N/A
     
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    • Mac Gregor

    RyderWest said:
    I feel that Zall's non interventionist policy is going to bite him in the ass once the inevitable Second Great War happens. The IEF Civil War will be too big to ignore once China starts to reclaim Manchuria for itself, and winding down American military strength overseas is not going to help things.

    For some reason, this reminds me of pre-WW2 America in some ways.
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    Lalli said:
    I don't see IEF Civil War escalating as great war. Some neighbours, speciality China, might do something but hardly this escalates outside of IEF.

    But surely this war will harm Zaal's presidency.
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    RyderWest said:
    Well, China has been eyeing the Xinjiang Republic, Tibet and Manchuria for years, perhaps decades now. Since the declaration of a Chinese Cold War by Lincoln IV in 1990, America has to step up its commitments to its allies in the Pacific Region. Zaal's committment to keep out of foreign affairs is threatening to destabilise the American military presence in Asia, allowing for China to put it's expansionist claims in motion.


    I can agree with you on that sentiment.
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    Interesting comments y'all. Seems to be a divide on whether the IEF Civil War will spark a global confrontation.

    * Friendly reminder ITTL its Uyghurstan not Xinjiang Republic
     
    Utgard96

    Utgard96

    Lalli said:
    If is hopefully there is just European nations. That can't call as Eurovision Song Contest if there is Asian non-European nations.
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    Yes they can. Eurovision is the name of the group that runs the contest, and nothing else. They choose who enters, and it was always a competition between their members rather than a competition between the countries of Europe.
     

    Mac Gregor

    Kaiser Chris said:
    Shame Blanton couldn't pull an Obama and get reelected. Though I do agree with Ryder that Zaal well have his legacy tarnished by a refusal to intervene or take a side on the IEF civil war. In my mind anyone who doesn't take action for a collapsing country that has hundreds of nukes and is one of the world powers is just plain stupid. By the way will the Orthodox Council take action in the civil war? I could see the conservatives using the alliances to call in extra troops to support their cause, while some will defect to Germany's camp.
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    Luminous said:
    If I remember correctly, Romania is already leaning towards the German camp. Serbia and Greece are relatively neutral but pro-Russia regardless of the outcome. I think Bulgaria is a wild card. Just what I think; not sure if it is correct.

    Frankly, it's more likely that they remain, but if Turkey makes a motion towards Armenia, as implied, at least Greece and Serbia would probably enter into the war against them (as a resurgent Turkey would look towards them or Syria afterwards).
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    Quick recap on the Orthodox Council. So the organization itself is pretty much defunct since the OC HQ in Kiev has been captured by Reformers.

    Kingdom of Romania: Instituted some limited constitutional reforms to appease the masses. Has publicly grown closer to Germany, as the Romanian monarchy needs a powerful benefactor. The Romanian government has no intention of being dragged into the IEFs current troubles.

    Kingdom of Serbia: Serbia is trying its best to keep close ties with the IEF. However there is no agreement on whether the back the Conservative or Reformer. Either way their isn't much Serbia can do to influence events so they basically waiting out the war and keeping an eye on domestic unrest.

    Tsardom of Bulgaria: Basically in the same situation as Serbia. It has called for a partial mobilization to secure its borders and keep the populace in check.

    Kingdom of Greece: Currently in the grips of a nasty civil war between Socialists and supporters of the monarchy. There has been talk of possible Serbian/Bulgarian intervention in support of the monarchy.
     

    Mac Gregor

    Luminous said:
    Also, question for Mac:

    What is the status of Liberia and (Equitorial?) Guinea? Considering how aggressive and expansionist West Africa is right now, what is the popular opinion in both countries regarding integration or not into the large federation? I remember seeing on one of the old maps that Liberia was, at one point, tentatively included in the LAR. Are either nation attempting to appeal to the LAR for membership to fend off any aggression from West Africa?

    It would be a shame for anything to happen to them.
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    Both Guinea and Liberia are concerned by the aggressive nationalism coming from West Africa. There are certain groups in each country who would like to join West Africa but the majority are against. Neither nation is eligible under the current LAR Charter to join as they are not in the Americas. Liberia has a sort of unspoken alliance with the U.S. due to historical ties. Some are wishing to sign an official defense treaty but there is little desire for that in the Zaal Whitehouse. Guinea is more on its own and doesn't have a security guarantor.
     
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    Mac Gregor

    RyderWest said:
    Ship Class Profile
    United States Navy Aircraft Carriers
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    Class Name: Warrenton-class aircraft carrier (AKA the Southern Battles-class)

    In Service: 1977 - present (as of 2000)

    Ship List: 5 ships
    • USS Warrenton (CV-44)
    • USS Richmond (CV-45)
    • USS Vicksburg (CV-46)
    • USS Nashville (CV-47)
    • USS Shiloh Landing (CV-48)
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    Very cool post. I am assuming that this USS Warrenton is the latest in a line of ships of that name as there was a USS Warrenton mentioned during the South American War back in the late 1940s. The TL, mentions that the USS Valley Forge was sunk during the Bonin Island campaign. Perhaps before the Southern Battles-class there was a Revolutionary Battles-class? However, it has been established that not all aircraft carriers are named after battles, for example during the Battle of Chichi Jima the U.S. Navy fielded the USS John Paul Jones, USS Manifest Destiny, USS Ragged Island, USS Robert T. Lincoln, USS Saratoga, and USS Sundern). Also, I love the aircraft manufactures. Cheers!
     

    Mac Gregor

    MatthewFirth said:
    Would the Eurovision Song Contest exist here?
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    The short answer is no. As Eurovision doesn't exist ITTL. Over the years their have been a variety of televised song/music competitions in Europe and elsewhere but nothing on the scale of OTL's Eurovision Song Contest. The closest thing is probably France's Champion de la Musique which ran from 1973-1991.
     

    Prince Daemon Targaryen

    Mac Gregor said:
    Quick recap on the Orthodox Council. So the organization itself is pretty much defunct since the OC HQ in Kiev has been captured by Reformers.

    Kingdom of Romania: Instituted some limited constitutional reforms to appease the masses. Has publicly grown closer to Germany, as the Romanian monarchy needs a powerful benefactor. The Romanian government has no intention of being dragged into the IEFs current troubles.

    Kingdom of Serbia: Serbia is trying its best to keep close ties with the IEF. However there is no agreement on whether the back the Conservative or Reformer. Either way their isn't much Serbia can do to influence events so they basically waiting out the war and keeping an eye on domestic unrest.

    Tsardom of Bulgaria: Basically in the same situation as Serbia. It has called for a partial mobilization to secure its borders and keep the populace in check.

    Kingdom of Greece: Currently in the grips of a nasty civil war between Socialists and supporters of the monarchy. There has been talk of possible Serbian/Bulgarian intervention in support of the monarchy.
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    So if Germany offers each state an alliance, then at this point only Romania would accept?
     
    traveller76

    traveller76

    I think the Balkans states are a] dealing with their own problems and b] wanting to see who wins in the Imperial Civil War. No one wants to be on the losing side and in a toss up between Germany and Russia.
     
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