Ahh, good pointNot sure if Luisa de Borgia exists in this scenario as Louis XII hasn't gotten the throne and Charles VIII hasn't got the same deal with Ceasare as he did.
Ahh, good pointNot sure if Luisa de Borgia exists in this scenario as Louis XII hasn't gotten the throne and Charles VIII hasn't got the same deal with Ceasare as he did.
It would indeed be. Since the Spanish alliance is pretty much dead right now, they can ally with France as well. And if Edmund's wife is French, that would create interesting things down the road in 1512-15 when I have plans for France...I'm kind of leaning towards Madeleine de la Tour d’Auvergne, since it's a French proxy match and I think Henry VII would still be interested in improving relations with the French. It would almost perfectly balance out his kids' marriages in terms of alliances: Portugal, Scotland, Burgundy, France.
Once more with feelings, Louise Borgia isn't gonna be of existence since the reign of Louis XII is gonna be butterflied or delayed.A Tudor-Borgia match. God save us all.
You are in luck, my friend! Fernando is gonna be the main character here, Charles Orlando is gonna be very important in the future and Edmund is gonna be there as well.Fernando, Edmund and Charles Orlando are the most interesting PODs in this story to me. Can't wait to see where each of their stories go.
Let's hope it will warm upIt looks like Fernando and Eleonor are going to have a very chilly marriage.
They're bringing in the heat.Let's hope it will warm up
They are not off to the best start exactly. But to be fair, having your betrothal switched all of a suddenly, being secretly swished away to France (at least attempted to), being sort of arrested and brought back to your country that now is conquered and finding out that not only did your little sister die, but your parents and little brother fleed away and left you behind, isn't something that is easy to dealt with at the age of 12 regardless of being a royal or not. So no, she's not passionately in love with her 15 year old husband yet and Ferdinand The Catholic can be a pretty scary person at times. Plus it fits with Ferdinand's general behaviour to his in laws otl. He might have had something to do with Prince Alfonso's death, he hated Philip and he screwed over Henry in 1512 with going behind his back to take Navarre. #worstfatherinlawever. Even if he treats his daughters better here better than he did Juana and Catalina. #worstfathereverIt looks like Fernando and Eleonor are going to have a very chilly marriage.
Give them time.Let's hope it will warm up
Not really right now.They're bringing in the heat.
Ferdinand the catholic and Joao the Perfect Prince are perfect demonstrations that the best monarchs are more often than not just flat out horrible people.They are not off to the best start exactly. But to be fair, having your betrothal switched all of a suddenly, being secretly swished away to France (at least attempted to), being sort of arrested and brought back to your country that now is conquered and finding out that not only did your little sister die, but your parents and little brother fleed away and left you behind, isn't something that is easy to dealt with at the age of 12 regardless of being a royal or not. So no, she's not passionately in love with her 15 year old husband yet and Ferdinand The Catholic can be a pretty scary person at times. Plus it fits with Ferdinand's general behaviour to his in laws otl. He might have had something to do with Prince Alfonso's death, he hated Philip and he screwed over Henry in 1512 with going behind his back to take Navarre. #worstfatherinlawever. Even if he treats her better than he did Juana and Catalina. #worstfatherever
I feel that Joao deserves better. He did not institute an inquisition or expel the Jews.Ferdinand the catholic and Joao the Perfect Prince are perfect demonstrations that the best monarchs are more often than not just flat out horrible people.
Give the abandoned, bewildered and grieving girl some time.nice
True, but Poor Diego deserved MUCH better.I feel that Joao deserves better. He did not institute an inquisition or expel the Jews.
will do.Give the abandoned, bewildered and grieving girl some time.
We have to agree to disagree.True, but Poor Diego deserved MUCH better.
Gracias.will do.
Oh? Español tambien! que interesante!Gracias.
De nada. (did I say it right? I can't speak Spanish.)Oh? Español tambien! que interesante!
As a colombian i can comfirm that you did said it rightDe nada. (did I say it right? I can't speak Spanish.)
Ha! Suck on that, my awful Spanish teacher in the eight grade!As a colombian i can comfirm that you did said it right
Tell them girl!Ha! Suck on that, my awful Spanish teacher in the eight grade!