John Farson: That's one possibility that I've considered and even decided to explore to some extent via the marriage of the Roman prince Valentinian, and the Frankish princess Clotilde. However, they are based in the western Emperor where they can only come to power if Theodosius dies childless before Valentinian. At the same time, a new precedent has been set which could lead to future marriages between the Merovingian dynasty of Francia and the Pannonian dynasty of Rome, thereby potentially blending the two households in which a Frankish king or Roman emperor could be of mixed Frankish-Roman blood. So yeah, in general I'd agree that your theory is possible, but not until more time has passed for the two societies to integrate culturally and even politically.
ray243: Compared to the Germanic tribes, Roman civilization is highly advanced for its time and elements of it were incorporated by the OTL Germanic successor states that eventually developed into the various kingdoms of Medieval Europe. It may be a bit of a stretch to get the Franks to actually want to be Romans, as in subjects of the Empire, but they can certainly incorporate the finer points of Roman civilization into their own society, thereby Romanizing them without actually making them Roman. In time they could come to completely favor Roman law, or a Frankish version of it, over their own local laws. Given that the Catholic Church is headquartered in the western Empire, the Frankish laity and especially the clergy will be even more exposed to the influence of the Roman way of life. If in time assimilation leaves very few significant differences between Romans and Franks, citizenship could be the final step to full integration if a Frankish king gains the title of Roman emperor at some point, or if a Roman emperor gains the Frankish throne. This is a really helpful conversation by the way, so thanks for discussing it with me because it's given me some new ideas that I didn't really consider before.
cimon: Thanks! Merry Christmas to you too. I think Provence would be a decent reward for Rome's assistance against the Burgundians, especially since the Franks would almost certainly claim the lion's share in territory and other rewards in the conquest of Burgundy. Yes, there's always the possibility of a fallout that could lead to a Roman-Frankish war as long as the two states remain separate. Even to this day, I think governments would consider their friends and allies to be potential threats in the future. It's not paranoia so much as it is about being practical; old friends can turn into enemies, enemies can be turned into friends, it's just the reality of a vicious circle in politics. The WRE is determined to maintain good relations with Francia, both through secular politics and the Catholic Church, but they cannot afford to grow complacent either for reasons stated above.
ray243: Compared to the Germanic tribes, Roman civilization is highly advanced for its time and elements of it were incorporated by the OTL Germanic successor states that eventually developed into the various kingdoms of Medieval Europe. It may be a bit of a stretch to get the Franks to actually want to be Romans, as in subjects of the Empire, but they can certainly incorporate the finer points of Roman civilization into their own society, thereby Romanizing them without actually making them Roman. In time they could come to completely favor Roman law, or a Frankish version of it, over their own local laws. Given that the Catholic Church is headquartered in the western Empire, the Frankish laity and especially the clergy will be even more exposed to the influence of the Roman way of life. If in time assimilation leaves very few significant differences between Romans and Franks, citizenship could be the final step to full integration if a Frankish king gains the title of Roman emperor at some point, or if a Roman emperor gains the Frankish throne. This is a really helpful conversation by the way, so thanks for discussing it with me because it's given me some new ideas that I didn't really consider before.
cimon: Thanks! Merry Christmas to you too. I think Provence would be a decent reward for Rome's assistance against the Burgundians, especially since the Franks would almost certainly claim the lion's share in territory and other rewards in the conquest of Burgundy. Yes, there's always the possibility of a fallout that could lead to a Roman-Frankish war as long as the two states remain separate. Even to this day, I think governments would consider their friends and allies to be potential threats in the future. It's not paranoia so much as it is about being practical; old friends can turn into enemies, enemies can be turned into friends, it's just the reality of a vicious circle in politics. The WRE is determined to maintain good relations with Francia, both through secular politics and the Catholic Church, but they cannot afford to grow complacent either for reasons stated above.