The Great Crusade (Reds! Part 3)
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CthulhuFhtagn
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Norteamericanos. It's what most of them call us now anyway (even Mexicans, which doesn't really make any sense when you think about it).
Does the USAR's military continue the tradition of a strong NCO class and the flexibility for commanders or is it in the regimented top down USSR style.
Yup.
Of course it does. The Soviet military tradition was still fundamentally based on the Tsarist military tradition, and indeed part of the American revolution was a rebellion against such trends being imposed, top-down, on the military.
I don't remember if this has been answered but ITTL what happened to Mikhail Frunze? I've recently been playing a lot of Kaisserreich and I like their approach of letting people who where OTL less important being major impactful people on the world. His fate is gonna largely depend on whether or not his death in surgery was assassination or not though. Similarly but without the tinge of Kaisserreich what where the fates of the German Sparticist leaders? Where Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht killed as OTL or did one of the two escape. They where both young enough that their survival could lead to them being important down the line.
Wait really? Luxemburg living seems like it would be a pretty huge deal! I mean Frunze is probably gonna be relatively unimportant except in terms of soviet military doctrine, Luxemburg living though means that the revolutionary movement doesn't get all it's non puppet leaders murdered.
Teshuvah
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Please don't bump a thread if there hasn't been an update. Message Jello if you'd like to know, rather than getting all of our hopes up.
Well, don't bump it for bumping's sake, but if there's a point you'd like to discuss, then please feel free to post, even if I haven't been active.
In some sense, my threads being active are helpful motivators towards keeping me productive on this. To answer his question, no this timeline is not dead. It's just a rather large project that has to be balanced with work, university and other projects I've been working on.
You know, I'm wondering something, what does the Labour party of Britian think of their former comrades in the second international, The Socialist labour party/ Worker's communist party? Since unlike the other third international parties they were not a breakoff of the origanol but an continouation from the previous international. Also the fact they only declared revolution after the right tried to throw them out illegally must have the TUC think of them at least a bit differently than the bolsheviks, they were after all the properly and legally elected party and the reactionarys were the ones who had to break legality of the situation. Something that was what didn't happen with the birth of the Soviet Union.
Also since they themselves are socialists (if reformist ones), they would have a far better understanding of these things than the everyday common man or the right wing.
Also since they themselves are socialists (if reformist ones), they would have a far better understanding of these things than the everyday common man or the right wing.
I'm not sure about Norway, but in France there was still a breakaway, it's just that initially the SFIC took with it the majority of the SFIO's membership. Though France's socialist movement was already divided, and the SFIO was already of a more revolutionary bent than the rest of the European labor movement, as the reformists clustered into the Republican Socialist Party or the Radical-Socialists.
That's what I was referring to - I was under the impression the SFIO renamed itself the SFIC and the SFIO afterwards was a breakaway refounding.
They would have if they could have, but I don't think the Tours Congress had that authority, especially given that the existing party apparatus and in particular the parliamentary section remained strongly opposed. So it was easier to make a clean break (though many local organizations came along with it).
I didn't know about all of this but the primary question I had was what does the labour party (and the other second international) parties think of the Socialist labour party and the fact they joined the third international? Also what does the labour party (and the Trade Union Congress) think of the revolution in America, since unlike the revolution in the soviet union, the party had legally and fairly were elected into office and the only reason their was an revolution was becouse the right tried to overthrow the goverment.
So what I'm asking basicly what does the Labour and the TUC think of the Socialist Labour Party/Workers communist party and the STLA/IWSU respectfully?
So what I'm asking basicly what does the Labour and the TUC think of the Socialist Labour Party/Workers communist party and the STLA/IWSU respectfully?
Hey folks, I like this timeline so much. At the same time I got too many ideas to contribute to this. But the two major ones are the structure of the All-Union Department of Public Safety and Stalin's Criticism of Constitutionalism in a Socialist State.
Here's the proposed structure of the Department of Public Safety, which was modeled after the PRC's Department of Public Security (In our real timeline).
Section 1 – General Administration
Section 2 – General Patrol
Section 3 – Criminal Investigation
Section 4 – Immigration and Border Control
Section 5 – Protective Service
Section 6 – Security of Public Officials
Section 7 – Economic Crimes
Section 8 – Counter-intelligence
Section 9 – State Security (Security Intelligence)
Here's the proposed structure of the Department of Public Safety, which was modeled after the PRC's Department of Public Security (In our real timeline).
Section 1 – General Administration
Section 2 – General Patrol
Section 3 – Criminal Investigation
Section 4 – Immigration and Border Control
Section 5 – Protective Service
Section 6 – Security of Public Officials
Section 7 – Economic Crimes
Section 8 – Counter-intelligence
Section 9 – State Security (Security Intelligence)
Section 9 – State Security (Security Intelligence)
Does Section 9 eventually turn into a cyber crimes section lol. I would love that.
Does Section 9 eventually turn into a cyber crimes section lol. I would love that.