LordKalvert
Banned
What happens if the Dutch decide to join the allies in 1914. The most likely PODs for this are:
1) The Germans don't modify the Schifflen plan and go through the Netherlands as well as Belgium.
2) The Belgians put up enough resistance at Liege that the Germans decide they must go around the fort to stay on their timetable prompting Dutch intervention
3) The Dutch simply make the calculation that since Germany has violated Belgian neutrality, they won't respect Dutch neutrality either and that they should fight now while they have allies rather than latter when they won't
So how does this play out in the fighting:
the Dutch do have a fairly good army, relatively well equipped and about a tenth the size of the German. They also have very good defensive positions to fall back on and would represent a very serious threat to the German Northern Armies line of communications.
How do Moltke and Joffre react to the changed situation
Do the Germans still press forward with little hope of beating the French or do they fall back to defensive positions or simply resign themselves to a long war and try and conquer the low countries to exploit?
What does Joffre do? Does he push forward with his planned attacks? Shift forces to the north knowing that he could now threaten Germany's rear?
With Joffre, what do you think he actually does and what would have been his best option here
1) The Germans don't modify the Schifflen plan and go through the Netherlands as well as Belgium.
2) The Belgians put up enough resistance at Liege that the Germans decide they must go around the fort to stay on their timetable prompting Dutch intervention
3) The Dutch simply make the calculation that since Germany has violated Belgian neutrality, they won't respect Dutch neutrality either and that they should fight now while they have allies rather than latter when they won't
So how does this play out in the fighting:
the Dutch do have a fairly good army, relatively well equipped and about a tenth the size of the German. They also have very good defensive positions to fall back on and would represent a very serious threat to the German Northern Armies line of communications.
How do Moltke and Joffre react to the changed situation
Do the Germans still press forward with little hope of beating the French or do they fall back to defensive positions or simply resign themselves to a long war and try and conquer the low countries to exploit?
What does Joffre do? Does he push forward with his planned attacks? Shift forces to the north knowing that he could now threaten Germany's rear?
With Joffre, what do you think he actually does and what would have been his best option here