Sports What Ifs.

The 1987 Redskins' Super Bowl win, 1 of 3 by Joe Gibbs, wouldn't change a lot for their team if someone else won. Karryl Green and Art MOnk and others still are Hall of Famers (and I'll still be unsure if I'm spelling Green's name right), certain people obviously have Super Bowl rigns and make nice stories, etc..

But, who else could Doug Williams have gone to who would have had a chance at the Super Bowl and who would have made for interesting PODs?

I thought of the Cowboys at first - if they go 9-6 and become a wild card instead, then beat the inexperienced Saints, overconfident 49ers, and the REdskins or Bears, then Doug Williams really gets in "The Zone" and wins Super Bowl MVP, it probably doesn't let Landry coach any longer. In fact, he probably retires, riding off into the sunset with the most improbable of wins. And Jerry Jones then just rebuilds the Cowboys in his image anyway, including the Herschel Walker trade.

But a number of other clubs needed a quarterback as insurance in '86 and then could have gone all-in on Williams in '87, perhaps also getting George Rogers in a trade, and looked like they were near the top, only for Williams to put them over. Who would be the most interesting? Have the biggest impact? The Bears are another thought - McMahon had tons of injury issues and Payton would finally get his Super Bowl TD - but a 2nd Chicago title in 3 years doesn't impact things a lot.

Of course, QBs have much more of an impact now, but it's interesting to imagine Doug Williams in The Zone (as well as Timmy Smith) for someone else. Or even for an AFC club that can defeat the Broncos, though that might be a slightly harder task. They creamed the Oilers, the Browns didn't have the injuries they did next year, and a few other teams were already set at QB, too.

It's fun to play with the USFL guys coming back to the NFL sometimes.
 
One I just thought of is what if the 1974 pre-season NFL strike had lasted long enough to cancel at least some regular season games and shorten the regular season?
  • what would the NFL do if there had been enough time to play a shortened regular season
    • in more recent times, during the pre-season 2011 strike the NFL considered planning for a 14-game season with the full set of division games. What would they have planned if the 1974 strike were unresolved when the season was scheduled to start?
  • how would a strike-shortened 1974 season affect the then-competing World Football League? Would it have strengthened it enough to stay afloat longer?
  • how would a strike-shortened 1974 season affect the planned expansion of the league in 1976?
    • a less unviable competing league would have made it even more a challenge for the Seahawks and Buccaneers
  • would a strike-shortened 1974 season have accelerated the rule changes introduced beginning in 1978 to improve offensive productivity?
  • would a strike-shortened 1974 season have cancelled or accelerated the move towards a 16-game regular season?
 
But, who else could Doug Williams have gone to who would have had a chance at the Super Bowl and who would have made for interesting PODs?
The only ones, aside from Dallas, seem to be in Southern California.

The Los Angeles Raiders are the most interesting one. The Raiders were relying on veteran Jim Plunkett when the USFL collapsed, and he retired at the end of 1986. If the Raiders had made a pitch for Williams, they might have avoided their decline to 5–10 in 1987 (that is, assuming he showed anything like his Redskins form). The possibility that Williams could have led the Raiders to something better than their 7–9 1988 record, especially as what was between 1978 and 1985 the strongest division in the NFL — in fact by a crude calculation the 1984 AFC West remains the strongest division-season in the NFL since World War II, stronger even than last year’s AFC North — was weakening due to the decline of the Seahawks and Chargers.

The issue with the Raiders is how would Williams have got on with their management and ownership?

The San Diego Chargers — the Raiders’ division rivals —might have considered Williams given that Dan Fouts was in the twilight of his career, but perhaps they were not good enough to attract his attention. After all, the Chargers were 4–12 in 1986, which was the equal third-worst record in the league that season.

The Los Angeles Rams are also interesting. Would they have made a pitch for Williams if they did not gain Jim Everett in a trade with the Houston Oilers? It is possible that Williams was not what the Rams wanted — reading the 1986 press a day or two ago has said to me that the Rams wished to acquire young quarterbacks after having failed in the postseason with numerous aging veterans.
 
League Cup winners if the losing finalists had won (numbers in brackets are League Cup titles won by the team) -

1961 - Rotherham United (1)
1962 - Rochdale (1)
1963 - Aston Villa (1)
1964 - Stoke City (1)
1965 - Leicester City (1)
1966 - West Ham United (1)
1967 - West Bromwich Albion (1)
1968 - Arsenal (1)
1969 -Arsenal (2)
1970 - West Bromwich Albion (2)
1971 -Aston Villa (2)
1972 -Chelsea (1)
1973 -Norwich City (1)
1974 - Manchester City (1)
1975 - Norwich City (1)
1976 - Newcastle United (1)
1977 - Everton (1)
1978 - Liverpool (1)
1979 - Southampton (1)
1980 - Nottingham Forest (1)
1981 - West Ham United (2)
1982 - Tottenham Hotspur (1)
1983 - Manchester United (1)
1984 - Everton (2)
1985 - Sunderland (1)
1986 - Queens Park Rangers (1)
1987 - Liverpool (2)
1988 - Arsenal (3)
1989 - Luton Town (1)
1990 - Oldham Athletic (1)
1991 - Manchester United (2)
1992 - Nottingham Forest (2)
1993 - Sheffield Wednesday
1994 - Manchester United (3)
1995 - Bolton Wanderers (1)
1996 - Leeds United
1997 - Middlesbrough
1998 - Middlesbrough
1999 - Leicester City
2000 - Tranmere Rovers
2001 - Birmingham City
2002 - Tottenham Hotspur (2)
2003 - Manchester United (4)
2004 - Bolton Wanderers (2)
2005 - Liverpool (3)
2006 - Wigan Athletic (1)
2007 - Arsenal (4)
2008 - Chelsea (2)
2009 - Tottenham Hotspur (3)
2010 - Aston Villa (3)
2011 - Arsenal (5)
2012 - Cardiff City (1)
2013 - Bradford City (1)
2014 - Sunderland (2)
2015 - Tottenham Hotspur (4)
2016 - Liverpool (4)
2017 - Southampton (2)
2018 - Arsenal (6)
2019 - Chelsea (3)
2020 - Aston Villa (4)
2021 - Tottenham Hotspur (5)
2022 - Chelsea (4)
2023 - Newcastle United (2)
2024 - Chelsea (5)
Women's League Cup winners if the losing finalists had won (numbers in brackets are League Cup titles won by the team) -

Birmingham City (1)
Birmingham City (2)
Lincoln (1)
Arsenal (1)
Notts County (1)
Birmingham City (3)
Manchester City (1)
Arsenal (2)
Arsenal (3)
Bristol City (1)
Chelsea (1)
Chelsea (2)
Chelsea (3)
 
What about the Steelers? Mark Malone was abysmal.


And they still managed to go 8–7 and miss the playoffs by only one game.
I was going to mention the Steelers — who had been kept more than competitive by a weak AFC Central since Terry Bradshaw declined — but forgot after procrastinating over the post.

The Steelers of 1987 as it was improved by two wins over the Steelers of 1986, despite very bad play from Malone. If Williams played as well as he did in Tampa or the 1987 postseason, they could well have beaten out Kosarʼs Browns and Moonʼs Oilers, and a run to the Super Bowl might not be a far-fetched hypothesis.
 
WI the Bears draft Aaron Rodgers as QB instead of Cedric Benson with the fourth pick in the 2005 NFL draft? Rodgers would certainly have had a better career than Grossman in Chicago, IMO and, with Rodgers, the Bears likely win Super Bowl XLI...
 
I just learned from a faellow Cleveland Indians fan last week that there was a good reason, unbeknownst to me, that the red Sox were seen by some as bitter rivals in the early '80s. Dennis Eckersley had basically forced a trade after Rick Manning stole his wife! The 2 couldnt be in the same room together, and from what this friend recalls, Eck threw at Manning and really couldn't stand the Indians in general.

It was perhaps more palatable for the Indians in 1977 to trade a 20-game winner than a young centerfielder with promise; Ted Cox, whom they got in return, was supposedly a can't miss prospect. But let's say the REd Sox refuse to let him go and Manning is the one traded isntead; perhaps there are rumors about Eckersley's arm.

Where would they trade Manning? How would this impact the REd Sox? Do they still get rid of Fergie Jenkins? If not, he did well enough that he *might* have allowed Boston to win their division. (Then again, one more loss and a playoff isn't needed for the Yankees to win.)

Eckersley no doubt leaves as a free agent after 1984, but could he, Len Barker, Bert Blyleven, and John Denny, with a good young 5th starter in place of Wayne Garland, actually steal a half-division and make the playoffs? While they'd probably lose to the Yankees or Brewers, it's not out of the question. In which case someone else probably acquires Rick Sutcliffe in 1982.
 
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