Spartakus Lives!: A Collaborative Worldbuilding Exercise

I've had this TL idea in my head for a while now, and was already in the preliminary stages of making maps for this, until my indecisiveness got the better of me and had me redo whatever I was some doing. So that made me realize that maybe I could use some help in creating an interesting world that this timeline is set in.

What's this TL about?
Well, my idea was to create a timeline in which Germany becomes communist.

What are the main POD(s)?
The main point of divergence is that the Spartacists/KPD leadership avoid the January Uprising, instead opting to wait until a better opportunity presented itself to start the revolution, using that time to better organize themselves to stand a chance against both the Freikorps and the German Military. That opportunity would come during the Kapp Putsch and subsequent general strike of 1920 which was launched in response to the coup.

Over in Russia, Lenin is assassinated in 1918. Halting the progress of the revolution and causing the Bolsheviks to splinter into internal factions, it would also cause the Russian Civil war to drag on longer then in OTL.

What's this thread for?
This thread is mainly to develop the timeline further into a cohesive world that I intend to export to a Graphics based TL at some point.

I am pretty much open for all further expansion upon these POD's and the consequences of having a red state in the heart of Europe.
 
Here are some rough ideas that could take place after the POD's.

Germany: Following the succes of the German Revolution, the country would find itself isolated in Europe. The western powers would be very distrusting of this new Red Germany, and would actively try to contain it's influence. Leading to the country focusing on stabilizing itself internally. It would later however pursuit a tactic of backing several European revolutionary organizations, in line with the party's internationalism. It is trough this, that the leadership in Berlin hopes to break trough the cordon and set up an alliance of socialist states.

Austria: The mean idea for Austria is that the success of the German Revolution acts as a catalyst for both the right and the left. The right would be focused on halting the spread of communism at all costs and would try to suppress left-wing elements in Austria. The left would be split as some wanted to emulate the succes of the German Revolution and leave the Social Democrats for the ÖKP. Tensions would eventually boil over, as in 1927 two civilians where killed by the Heimwehr during a political clash leading to a general strike and The July Revolt, which backed by Germany would result in a push for revolution.

France: As revolution sweeps trough Germany, France looked on in horror. It would pursue a policy of containment and diplomatic isolation against the new German state. Building a web of alliances with Great Britain and the new states of central Europe. While also trying to impose the stipulations of the Treaty of Versailles, which the new government in Berlin begrudgingly accepted. Just like in OTL the socialist movement in France split in 1920, with a majority of SFIO members leaving to join the French Communist Party and the German led Third Internationale.
 
Spain: the social unrest caused by the war in the Rif, along with the repression in Barcelona against the Anarchists, give way to a series of small strikes in Madrid, Bilbao, Barcelona, Sevilla and Valencia. The assasination of the prime minister, Eduardo Dato the following year, in 1921, and the leak to the press of the Picasso file (January 1922) about the military disaster in Morocco (Annual) takes the country to a level of political anger that force the government to use the army to reinforce the security forces and to patrol the streets. When the Conservative party wins the elections of 1923, it is accused of having rigged them. General Primo de Rivera launches a coup d'etat in Sevilla. The city becomes paralyzed by a worker's strike. Soon the workers of Barcelona and Madrid follow
 
What's this TL about?
Well, my idea was to create a timeline in which Germany becomes communist.
Always a great idea. Count me as interested.

What are the main POD(s)?
The main point of divergence is that the Spartacists/KPD leadership avoid the January Uprising
It is probably difficult to avoid it because it didn't follow a top-down course by Liebknecht and Luxemburg or anybody else. Nobody really controls the German Radical Left by that point in time effectively. But maybe you don't need top-down control: if the Bolshevik example, which inspired many (and frigthened many others) IOTL, is descending into chaos, that might be enough to instill a different, more cautious mindset. And a greater majority for parliamentary participation - meaing you have SPD, USPD and KPD in the Constitutional Assembly.

using that time to better organize themselves to stand a chance against both the Freikorps and the German Military.
Without Spartakist uprisings, there might not be quite as many Freikorps around as IOTL.
BTW, what is the situation in Bavaria?
And HOW exactly do they "better organize themselves"?
Are we free to flesh this out and do you have any clear limits?
(As you can see, I am most interested in Germany actually, the lynchpin of your magnificent chaos.)

France: As revolution sweeps trough Germany, France looked on in horror. It would pursue a policy of containment and diplomatic isolation against the new German state. Building a web of alliances with Great Britain and the new states of central Europe. While also trying to impose the stipulations of the Treaty of Versailles, which the new government in Berlin begrudgingly accepted. Just like in OTL the socialist movement in France split in 1920, with a majority of SFIO members leaving to join the French Communist Party and the German led Third Internationale.
Just a few questions of consistency here: The Kapp Putsch took place in early 1920. By that time, the Treaty of Versailles had long been signed. And there are but months between the Putsch and the SFIO Congress of Tours in which the party split IOTL. Germany's internationalist involvement would have to be very quick (and its Revolution's triumph, too) to be able to force the SFIO into choosing between adhering to a German-led (!!!) Third Internationale or sticking with the Second Internationale.
 
If this is about graphics in the end, is the Focus on territorial Changes?
Or are social, economic and institutional Changes intended to be Part of the mix, too?
 
It is probably difficult to avoid it because it didn't follow a top-down course by Liebknecht and Luxemburg or anybody else. Nobody really controls the German Radical Left by that point in time effectively. But maybe you don't need top-down control: if the Bolshevik example, which inspired many (and frigthened many others) IOTL, is descending into chaos, that might be enough to instill a different, more cautious mindset. And a greater majority for parliamentary participation - meaing you have SPD, USPD and KPD in the Constitutional Assembly.
This could be a very interesting idea, Maybe something smaller in scale than the Spartacist Uprising can happen in this TL, and both it's failure and the stalling Russian Revolution can be enough to convince party leadership to take a more cautious route. Maybe steadily adopting a type of Deleonist model that emphasizes both the organization of workers into Unions/Councils and a stuctred political party that competes in the electoral proces or would that be a bit to much out if character?

And HOW exactly do they "better organize themselves"?
That is something I haven't decided upon. The reason I used the Kapp Putch was because of the Rurh Red Army, which in OTL was very decentralized and fractured. I think it (and maybe other worker militias) could have benefitted from some type of central organ.

Are we free to flesh this out and do you have any clear limits?
You are free to flesh this out, I am hardly an expert on the topic and that was actually one of the reasons I decided to do this as a collaborative effort.

Just a few questions of consistency here: The Kapp Putsch took place in early 1920. By that time, the Treaty of Versailles had long been signed. And there are but months between the Putsch and the SFIO Congress of Tours in which the party split IOTL. Germany's internationalist involvement would have to be very quick (and its Revolution's triumph, too) to be able to force the SFIO into choosing between adhering to a German-led (!!!) Third Internationale or sticking with the Second Internationale.
That was just an idea for France, Maybe it's better we focus on Germany first and see how this change affects the surrounding countries.

If this is about graphics in the end, is the Focus on territorial Changes?
Or are social, economic and institutional Changes intended to be Part of the mix, too?
Social, Economic and institutional changes are also part of the plan, it can be a bit harder to pull of then just showing some maps but I think it can be done.
 
Austria: The mean idea for Austria is that the success of the German Revolution acts as a catalyst for both the right and the left. The right would be focused on halting the spread of communism at all costs and would try to suppress left-wing elements in Austria. The left would be split as some wanted to emulate the succes of the German Revolution and leave the Social Democrats for the ÖKP. Tensions would eventually boil over, as in 1927 two civilians where killed by the Heimwehr during a political clash leading to a general strike and The July Revolt, which backed by Germany would result in a push for revolution.

Austria almost became a council communist country in our reality. In the immediate aftermath of World War I, Austrians were creating Workers' and Soldiers' Councils across the country; during the 1918 January Strike, the SDAPOe leadership was just able to keep the councils under control and end the general strike. The workers' council movement would hit its peak in 1920, but they wouldn't be fully dissolved until 1924. Part of the decline is contributed to the end of the Hungarian Council Republic. Even if Hungary followed its historical path and ends in 1919, the Austrian workers' council movement is going to be inspired by the successful revolution in Germany.

In 1918, the SDAPOe was able to buy off the workers' council with promises of reform. However, with an example of what's possible in Germany, I would think the workers would be harder to buy off a second time. On top of that, the Austrian left (specifically the SDAPOe) was pro-Anschluss during the interwar period; they'd likely be even more supportive with a more compatible government. As such, I think revolution would come a lot sooner than the July Revolt.
 
This could be a very interesting idea, Maybe something smaller in scale than the Spartacist Uprising can happen in this TL, and both it's failure and the stalling Russian Revolution can be enough to convince party leadership to take a more cautious route.
OTL's Spartakist uprising was really small in scale already, when you count it against the strength of socialist labour in Germany in general.

Maybe steadily adopting a type of Deleonist model that emphasizes both the organization of workers into Unions/Councils and a stuctred political party that competes in the electoral proces or would that be a bit to much out if character?
That's not at all out of character, it's exactly what Luxemburg and Liebknecht were advocating and what the pro-Spartakist Revolutionäre Obleute were doing. Cf. Luxemburg's criticism of Lenin in 1918.

The big problem is not getting the German ultra-left to be non-Leninist. The big problem is making it behave in a tactical and clever way. Liebknecht and Luxemburg were extremely upfront, honest, outspoken political thinkers (not really political organizers at all), and especially Liebknecht was such a popular icon that he couldn't be sidelined by anyone else who is more sly and scheming. Unless you kill him off like IOTL, but that would disrupt the "low-profile strategy" at once.

That is something I haven't decided upon. The reason I used the Kapp Putch was because of the Rurh Red Army, which in OTL was very decentralized and fractured. I think it (and maybe other worker militias) could have benefitted from some type of central organ.
Well, the Ruhr Red Army was an alliance of anarcho-syndicalists, independent social democrats, and communists. You can not have the latter two split, but I don't see how you can have the FAU integrated and subordinated under a central organ dominated by others - unless you give them great leeway to do whatever they want locally, like in the short-lived Bolshevik-Makhnovist alliance IOTL.


OK, here comes my sketch:
  • In her prison cell in Breslau, Luxemburg writes about the Russian Revolution, like IOTL. Instead of lauding the initiative and the will to power of the Russian proletariat and its Bolshevik vanguard and criticising them for unnecessarily curbing democracy and political liberties, she is lauding them for a "good start" of relentlessly pushing the socialist agenda and pulling others in an alliance with them (the Left SRs), then criticises them for abandoning this alliance when in power and thus succumbing to the inevitable fate of Robespierre (I assume Lenin is shot by Left SR Fanny Kaplan?).
  • Come the Kiel Mutiny and the SPD jumping on the revolutionary bandwagon and the Spartakists liberated from prison, the leaders of the Spartakist faction urge, in Luxemburg's sense of TTL, the USPD Congress to push for an ambitious (and popular but hopelessly unrealistic) platform, not only with the Constituent Assembly elections in mind but also to pull the working populace and the SPD to the left. They do not yet manage to sway a majority for their demands,and so the USPD goes into the elections with much the same platform as IOTL but the Spartakists continue to campaign and mobilise for their demands anyway. A somewhat duplicitous strategy is undertaken with regards to arms and militancy: while the whole party denounces the arming of right-wing paramilitary Freikorps with tacit or explicit consent of the Provisional Government (Rat der Volksbeauftragten) and the army leadership within the framework of the Ebert-Groener-Pact, local Spartakus groups and Revolutionäre Obleute continue to clandestinely amass weaponry, too, and to train Red Guards / "security services of the workers' councils" / ... in their use.
    [This is borderline ASB, but if you want proper "communism" on a path to a fast and thorough victory, you need to tweak a few things.]
  • When the terms of the ToV transpire, the Spartakists lead the wave of popular protest from the left. Liebknecht or Luxemburg seizes the initiative and meets with Frossard and Bombacci. The three publicly proclaim their counter-proposal. In German, it is called "Friedensbund der freien Völker" or something of the like (the free peoples' alliance for peace), and it entails the following core ideas: a confederation of socialist states containing a common Bundist control over the socialized war-relevant treasures of the soil (coal, ores etc.), the elimination of all national armies and the formation of a common Bundist "peace corps" which is also to be disbanded once the revolution has triumphed across the globe, in the meantime it defends the Bund against capitalist-imperialist aggression).
    The idea is evidently absolutely fantastic and unrealistic. But it re-animates the almost-slumbering workers' councils, whose main and popular call had been "Peace!" anyway. With the Liebknecht-Frossard-Bombacci Plan around (even though Liebknecht is not yet party leader in Germany, Frossard would find it hard to sell it to the entire SFIO, and as for Bombacci's PSI I'm not sure either), they leap back into action behind the slogans "Peace, People's Wealth, Bread and Brotherhood!" (with the first referring to a peace without harsh conditions which punish populations for the crimes committed by their deposed tyrants; the second referring to the socializations; the third always being popular but especially in a situation where the blockade still tries to starve Germany into submission; and the fourth referring to the idea that internationalist unity and unification is the only viable and logical conclusion to be drawn from the Great War, hence the Bund).
    The governments of the Entente states are extremely disquieted. The centrist government goes on and signs the ToV anyway, which costs them dearly in popularity, like IOTL, only this time the protest isn't all absorbed by the Far Right.
  • With the post-Paris blues befalling the moderate USPD leadership and the Spartakists having gained massively in popularity with their Bundist rejection of Versailles, a new USPD emergency council is called and Liebknect is elected party leader. The most moderate fringe (I'm thinking of Bernstein and the like) leave the party, but most Centrists stay on.
  • Bund-inspired feelers are stretched out by the trio (USPD/SFIO/PSI) to various Russian factions, to the new Hungarian government and to the left wing of the Austrian SDAPÖ and their councils. What they'd need now would be a victory in the relative political void that was Central-Eastern Europe. Ideally, Hungarians and Bundist volunteers or troops from (where???? - a trapped Bolshevik army from the Civil War might be awesome, but I have no idea how to get them pushed all the way through Ukraine....) manage to hold off the Romanian advance on Budapest. [This is also borderline ASB, probably already crossing the border.]
  • With a first victory in the East blowing into their wings - and their movement for worldwide peace gaining a paradoxically militarist vibe and more first-hand military experience for many -, Spartakists / Bundists from Germany and Austria call together a common council aiming to find ways to unite both countries into one socialist republic. Their governments look on in horror, begin to imprison a few of its leaders and comb the countryside for weapons in the hands of red guards. But since the Spartakists are playing the social AND the patriotic card this time (they're the loudest voice denouncing Versailles and Saint-Germain with their counter-proposal, and now they're aiming seriously at Anschluss; people like Laufenberg and Wolffheim will support the course in droves, too, causing tensions with the principally anti-nationalist leadership circle around Liebknecht, Luxemburg and Levy), government repression against them is by far not as popular and is going to face resistance and obstruction. Any socialist leaders "shot while attempting to escape" will immediately become popular martyrs, not just for the radical left, but in the eyes of a wider populace (think of Robert Blum 1848).
  • We still need something to cause this cauldron to bubble over, to cause revolution first in Germany, then very fast also in Austria (the latter is easy if the first is achieved). THe Kapp Putsch doesn't work quite so well because the Far Right wouldn't attempt it in this political atmosphere, and anyway the entire build-up to the Kapp Putsch with the Baltic Freikorps etc. is going to be messed with by Lenin's death and the different course of history from then onwards. Evidently, it is only going to win if there is broad popular sentiment pushing in the general far left direction, which I tried to plausibilise with the Bundist anti-Versailles campaign. So, the Far Left can't win from a defensive position like in the Kapp Putsch. It needs to be on the offensive in general. We need an opportunity. I'm still not sure what exactly that could be, but we need to take into consideration that outside factors only begin to change towards the end of 1920 . A few political murders might not be enough... even a miners' strike might not be enough... will have to think about that.
Either way, when the Revolution comes, it'll be council-backed, and aiming to make the Liebknecht-Frossard-Bombacci Plan a reality. Which is not going to work because Frossard and Bombacci are not in power in their countries. But a revolution in Austria could happen. And if Kun stays in power in Hungary, the three might form the first nucleus of the Bund in reality (and not just in theory). Now the first question is, what do the Entente governments do in the face of a socialist Anschluss (or even Anschluss plus)? (Considering that at least the Italian government might be confronted with an even more militant Biennio Rosso itself...)

Sorry that this did not end up with the idea of an Versailles-embracing communist Germany. It is almost borderline ASB as it is anyway. (But it's been fun writing it so far.)
 
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Well, the Ruhr Red Army was an alliance of anarcho-syndicalists, independent social democrats, and communists. You can not have the latter two split, but I don't see how you can have the FAU integrated and subordinated under a central organ dominated by others - unless you give them great leeway to do whatever they want locally, like in the short-lived Bolshevik-Makhnovist alliance IOTL.
Maybe a loose alliance or some sort of unified left front could work in this TL, or do you think that a bit to much of a stretch?

I assume Lenin is shot by Left SR Fanny Kaplan
He is indeed shot by Kaplan. It would be interesting to see how the Bolsheviks wil do without Lenin, and who will step up to fill his role.

We need an opportunity. I'm still not sure what exactly that could be, but we need to take into consideration that outside factors only begin to change towards the end of 1920 . A few political murders might not be enough... even a miners' strike might not be enough... will have to think about that.
We indeed need a good opportunity for the revolution to proceed, I also can't really think of any at the moment.

Now the first question is, what do the Entente governments do in the face of a socialist Anschluss (or even Anschluss plus)?
That is a good question indeed, I can't imagine that they would just let the Anschluss happen so we will definitely need some sort of reaction from the Entente powers, when this happens. Do you think it could even include military action?


Sorry that this did not end up with the idea of an Versailles-embracing communist Germany. It is almost borderline ASB as it is anyway. (But it's been fun writing it so far.)
That's not a problem at all, everything I posted before was only a loose concept and nothing was really set in stone, except the desired outcome ofcourse. I really like the ideas your floating around, especially the counter proposal for Versailles.
 
Maybe a loose alliance or some sort of unified left front could work in this TL, or do you think that a bit to much of a stretch?
It could, for the time of struggle. Don't know how to Bring them together afterwards, though.

He is indeed shot by Kaplan. It would be interesting to see how the Bolsheviks wil do without Lenin, and who will step up to fill his role.
You mentioned factional strife...

If not, then Zinoniev or Kamenev would be my bets.

Do you think it could even include military action?
Quite certainly. Red Germany might have to brace for its Atatürkist period of struggle. War-weary and partly solidaric populations in America, Britain and France might induce them to pull out eventually, but that's a bloody road.

Glad you liked my ideas. I'll try to think of more.
 
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