Snapshots from Other Worlds

[eliamartin65]

Inspired by @isabella's Scenes from Other Worlds thread, this will be a repository for family trees and snippets from possible TLs. The ideas presented here may or may not be expanded into full TLs.

Enjoy.

 

[eliamartin65]

What if Charles the Bold had a younger brother, who succeeded him in Burgundy after Charles's death without issue in 1477? And what if Jean's daughter Emma became the power behind the throne due to the influence of her mother?

 

[eliamartin65]

Credit to @Kellan Sullivan for the help with this scenario.

John II, Duke of Burgundy (1434 - 1491) m. 1456 (a Elisabeth of Austria [1] (1436 -1479) and m. 1483 (b Philippa of Guelders {2} (1462 -1521) with issue by both:

1. Emma, Duchess of Burgundy (b. 1459) m. 1476 Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1459) with issue.
2. Isabella of Burgundy [4] (b. 1485) m. 1501 John II of Denmark (b. 1488) [3] with issue.

[1] OTL Queen of Poland as the wife of Casimir IV.
[2] OTL Duchess of Lorraine
[3] Son of John I of Denmark and his wife Maria of England (1455 - 1493), daughter of Henry VI of England and Marie of Armagnac.
[4] Jean’s daughter by his second wife.

 

[BoleynBuff]

Credit to @Kellan Sullivan for the help with this scenario.

John II, Duke of Burgundy (1434 - 1491) m. 1456 (a Elisabeth of Austria [1] (1436 -1479) and m. 1483 (b Philippa of Guelders {2} (1462 -1521) with issue by both:

1. Emma, Duchess of Burgundy (b. 1459) m. 1476 Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1459) with issue.
2. Isabella of Burgundy [4] (b. 1485) m. 1501 John II of Denmark (b. 1488) [3] with issue.

[1] OTL Queen of Poland as the wife of Casimir IV.
[2] OTL Duchess of Lorraine
[3] Son of John I of Denmark and his wife Maria of England (1455 - 1493), daughter of Henry VI of England and Marie of Armagnac.
[4] Jean’s daughter by his second wife.

Hold up! I love this!

 

[eliamartin65]

Alfonso I, King of Aragon and Navarre (c. 1073/1074[a] – 7 September 1134), called the Battler or the Warrior, m. 1109 Urraca, Queen of Leon, Castile and Galicia (c. 1080 – 8 March 1126), called the Reckless:

1. Sancha (b. 1111)
2. Alfonso (b. 1113)

This isn't a collaborative thread....

 

[Kurt_Steiner]

My apologies

 

[eliamartin65]

My apologies

No problem.

 

[eliamartin65]

POD: Adolf of Guelders and Catherine of Bourbon marry earlier

Adolf, Duke of Guelders (1438 - 1477) m. 1457 Catherine of Bourbon (1440 - 1481) with issue:

1. Milan von Egmont [1] (1459 -) m. 1477 Louise of Cleves (1458 -) [2] with issue
2. Johanna von Egmont (b. 1460)[3]
3. Philippa von Egmont [4](b. 1462)

NOTES:

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[1] The much needed heir to the Duchy of Guelders, Milan was born in the eponymous Duchy (his name is a modified version of Miles, meaning “servant of Mary”, but the fact that he was born in Milan itself still stuck). His marriage to Louise of Cleves was brokered by Charles the Bold after he bought the succession rights to Guelders from Milan’s grandfather Arnold. He doesn’t get to become Duke, but if his brother-in-law dies without kids....
[2] Daughter of Adolf of Cleves and Beatrice of Portugal, and sister to Philipp of Cleves
[3] Named after her great-grandmother, Joanna of Jülich. After Milan’s birth, it was expected that Catherine would not give birth again, but she surprised everyone with Joanna and Philippa’s births.
[4] OTL Philippa of Guelders