Sequel de Mayo (Cinco de Mayo, Vol. II)

[Belka DNW]

So sad that the trees planted after 1806 to rebuild the fleet weren't good yet, the could have turned the war in Denmark's favor.

 

[Mayukh]

Franco-Belgian attack from the direction of Arlon, seizing Steinfurt

Isnt Steinfurt near Nederlands? How do they go from Arlon in Belgium to Nederlands in one day?

 

[ElfNoble]

Poor Denmark I wish them the best

 

[lukedalton]

As for Austria, at maximum the OE might feel more emboldened to test the limits of influence in Montenegro and Serbia, though that is certain to draw a very quick Italian response in the long term, especially re: the former.

Yep everyone in Rome will consider Montenegro in the italian sphere of influence so any Ottoman attempt to extend their influence there will not taken well and opposed immediately but increased influence in Serbia can be accepted more easily (nobody in Italy will be very happy but it will be more easy to digest)

 

[EnglishCanuck]

Poor little Denmark, so far from God, so close to Germany...

 

[Devoid]

Poor little Denmark, so far from God, so close to Germany...

And so in bed with belligerent idiots going to war over an undeserving and unrepentant rapist...

 

[Lascaris]

Maybe. The French consider Algeria integral territory but the Ottomans could fuck around about in the Niger Basin or the Ubangi-Shari, I suppose.

As for Austria, at maximum the OE might feel more emboldened to test the limits of influence in Montenegro and Serbia, though that is certain to draw a very quick Italian response in the long term, especially re: the former.

I would be thinking the Ottomans at the moment are... shall we say horrified at the prospect Russia will be back for a return engagement now that the rest of Europe are tied down killing each other? Meddling in Serbia and Montenegro seems an excellent way to bring that forth?

 

[Darth_Kiryan]

He was not forced to make a choice; upon learning of the King's opinion, several crucial Cabinet ministers flipped and voted to mobilize that evening. King Christian countersigned the mobilization order on March 10th, and a massive demonstration occurred in Copenhagen's Nytorv to celebrate what was assumed to be an imminent declaration of war. One hundred thousand Danish soldiers were mobilized with an additional twenty thousand reservists alerted, and the Danish Navy's war plan was activated with immediate effect. Denmark was, for the first time in fifty-five years, going to war.

The only problem for them, of course, was that Germany was well-aware what the Nytorv demonstrations meant, and their war plans included Denmark, too..." [3]

Poor little Denmark, so far from God, so close to Germany...

I think the Jutland Peninsula is about to burn....

 

[Curtain Jerker]

It is notable that in Denmark, the war is referred to not by the moniker it enjoys in the rest of the world but rather is referred to as Ti Dages Krig - the Ten Days War.

That's literally twice as long as I thought Denmark would last...so good job Danes?

 

[Belka DNW]

Foreign Minister Erik Scavenius, a lifelong civil servant from a noble family that in the tradition of certain elite families throughout Europe saw it as their duty to serve in the diplomatic corps. [1] Scavenius opposed the Iron Triangle and argued for Danish neutrality; considering his firmly Germanophilic line in the postwar years

His plataform is basically "I told u bro, I warned u."

 

[Ind89]

So, the ten day war AND the Danish Navy resting on the bottom of the Baltic might lead to a revolution and an abolition of the monarchy. At the very least, Christian X is probably forced to abdicate.

 

[ElfNoble]

Frederick the IX (I think) will be takeing the throne so much earlier is my guess because I think the tolerance for non Swiss republics is zero in europe

 

[GrimmJow007]

Frederick the IX (I think) will be takeing the throne so much earlier is my guess because I think the tolerance for non Swiss republics is zero in europe

Was the Second French Republic not tolerated?

 

[Reisen Storm]

So, the ten day war AND the Danish Navy resting on the bottom of the Baltic might lead to a revolution and an abolition of the monarchy

We'll get a second socialist republic after Chile.

 

[historylearner]

Well Denmarks screwed

 

[Darth_Kiryan]

Well Denmarks screwed

in ten days.
But damn, when you think about it, the Germany Navy obliterating the Danish Navy will certainly scare her enemies, or at least a small jump...

 

[ElfNoble]

I mean the second French Republic was lead by a guy who called himself prince president so yeah also Denmark has no reason to abolish their monarchy

 

[theINQUISITOR]

Isnt Steinfurt near Nederlands? How do they go from Arlon in Belgium to Nederlands in one day?

I think KingSweden was referring to Steinfort in Luxembourg, right across the border from Arlon.

 

[Lemonfish]

That's literally twice as long as I thought Denmark would last...so good job Danes?

I mean consider their performance in WW2, they definitely give their best here.

 

[Gman]

Time for some more population estimates right before the Central European War broke out. I previously estimated Germany and Italy's populations to be 69,0 million and 40,1 million in 1915, using estimated growth rates of 1,228% per year for Germany and 0.814% for Italy. If those same rates were used for the 4 years from 1915 to 1919 then the following populations could be roughly estimated.

Germany: 69 021 138*(1,01228)^4 = 73 364 404 people.
Italy: 40 087 502*(1,00814)^4 = 41 408 774 people.

France had a TTL population of 46 810 371 in 1910. OTL from 1910-1913 they grew from 41.35 million to 41.62 million by 270 000 or 0,217% per year. Without adjusting for TTL higher birth rates and better economic development, it would give a 1919 population of 46 810 371*(1,00217)^9 = 47 732 553. OTL from 1901 to 1911 France grew from 38 962 000 to 39 605 000 by 0,16% per year or (1,0016)^10 = 1,61% in total versus TTL's growth of 3,8% from 1900-1910 which is (3,8/1,61 = 2,36 times higher). This would give a growth rate from 1910-1919 of 0,217*2,36 = 0,512% per year which equals a 1919 population of 46 810 371*(1,00512)^9 = 49 012 100.53.

Austria had a population of 51 005 617 in 1910 TTL and had a growth rate of 10% over the decade equal to 0,957% per year. We know that Austria Hungary is more prosperous than OTL and the 1910s have been a better decade for living standards (reducing things like emigration) and likely boosting population growth a bit (say by 10%) which then equals 1,053% per year and a TTL 1919 population of 51 005 617*(1,01053)^9 = 56 048 101 people in 1919.

The Iron Triangle's two main powers have a total population of 56,0 million + 49,0 million = 105-105,1 million, and the Central Powers have 73,3 million + 41,4 million = 114,7-114,8 million. Belgium and Denmark do go some way to correcting this and likely give the Iron Triangle a very slight population edge.