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Challenge: Anthrakodynamic Revolution instead of Hydrodynamic?
#1
The Ghana, May 24th, 2769, 11.25 p.m.:
Recently I´ve been thinking about how the world might look like if industrialisation had not happened based on waterpower, but on something less environmentally intrusive like, say, coal. Just think: Italia, Dalmatia, Eastern Atlantis, Sygria, Svitudo, Helvetia and all these other mountainous places, how beautiful would they look without artificial lakes and dams everywhere? Unfortunately, the Electric Revolution is rather too late for a PoD, since waterpower had way too much of a technological advance over other energy sources already.
But what if the initial mechanical revolution with the textile mills and everything in the 12th century had happened with, for example, coal as a fuel instead of waterpower and steam engines driving early textile mills etc.? Could this have worked? And if so, would it still start in Asia Minor, or maybe instead in some place with great coal deposits, like, say, along the Rhine?
So here is your challenge, should you accept it: Have the great leap in mechanization happen based on coal instead of waterpower! Bonus points if it happens earlier than IOTL.
#2
dux, May 25th, 2769, 9.13 a.m.:
No way that could have happened.
Building steam engines requires steel of a quality which was way beyond what the Greeks were able to make at that time. Or anybody else, for that matter. Also, last time I checked, fully waterpowered textile mills only came into being in the late 13th century; in the 12th century, it was just water-powered spinning wheels.
#3
Boudicca, May 25th, 2769, 10.57 a.m.:
I`m not sure if it`s possible… but Britannia could be a good place to start a coal-based industrialisation. It had coal, ore, wool… and the Celts had a great tradition of iron-working. The concept of steam power is not too abstract, it was known to Heron already. If someone came up with the idea, and an aristocrat had decided to put their resources into making a steam engine-powered textile mill happen, instead of meddling in Hibernia or Iutia, they might have made a fortune out of it and attracted others to copy the idea.
#4
Simon, May 25th, 2769, 12.21 a.m.:
Boudicca wrote:
The concept of steam power is not too abstract, it was known to Heron already
Please, not the aeliopile again! It was a mere toy, its output utterly insufficient to power even an automatic shoebrush.
The Ghana wrote:
Just think: Italia, Dalmatia, Eastern Atlantis, Sygria, Svitudo, Helvetia and all these other mountainous places, how beautiful would they look without artificial lakes and dams everywhere?
What is your problem with dams and lakes? I think they look nice, especially seen from above… and coal isn`t exactly making the world prettier, either. Coal fires stink, and the smoke darkens everything.
Also, what others have said before: iron quality was far too bad for practical steam engines in the 13th century. To have a coal-powered industrialisation, you would either need to speed up metallurgical innovations by centuries, or slow down mechanization efforts by centuries. Both is borderline-ASB.
#5
Impractical Crab, May 25th, 2769, 2.00 p.m.:
This could have actually happened. A lot of factors had to come together for the hydrodynamic revolution to happen: the abolition of slavery, an unusually long period of peace and prosperity, the Confederacy`s unique combination of a weird heterogeneity of legal systems, yet unfettered free trade within much of the Mediterranean. You only need to eliminate one of the factors, and fully mechanized cloth-production in waterpowered textile mills is not happening in the 13th century. You could have the Hunnic invasions take a turn for the worse. Or civil wars break out earlier, and the Confederacy falls apart a century before OTL. Or the opposite: legal harmonization across the Confederacy happens earlier, perhaps a Codex Tarentinus in the 12th century already, or the Koinon Neon succeeds in the 1060s. With Agonistic, Simonist, Aetas Aurea and other radical isotian factions as strong as they were in the earlier years of the Confederacy, such a unified law code could easily regulate mill-building in unfavourable ways, or prevent the accumulation of capital in the hands of a few oligarchs from happening.
Technical innovations would have happened sooner or later anyway, of course. But we cannot rule out that an exponential growth in installed mechanical power only happens several centuries later, when the building of steam engines has become a viable and even practical option. Coal is indeed the second most likely energy source, greater quantities of it are easily available, which was not the case with oil or gas, let alone electricity, which required a whole set of further innovations. And with a completely different energy source and industrialisation taking place in an entirely different time period, places other than Asia Minor are definitely in the cards. I would not say Britannia, though. Gallo-Roman feudalism was economically far too stagnant for such changes to become likely. Changing this would probably require a PoD in the first millennium AUC. Otherwise, India might be a good bet.
#6
The Ghana, May 25th, 2769, 8.28 p.m.:
Thanks for your feedback and ideas, guys! Especially Impractical Crab, I might actually take up your idea and write a timeline where the Confederacy falls apart earlier and steampowered industrialisation happens in India….
#7
Uriel, May 26th, 2769, 1.13 a.m.:
Excellent idea, I would love to read that!
#8
Impractical Crab, May 26th, 2769, 4.47 p.m.:
Mind you, that doesn`t mean a coal-powered industrialisation would have left the world a better place. It´s always difficult to say how far-reaching the consequences of burning such a lot of coal might have been…
#9
Simon, May 26th, 2769, 5.13 p.m.:
Impractical Crab wrote:
Mind you, that doesn`t mean a coal-powered industrialisation would have left the world a better place. It´s always difficult to say how far-reaching the consequences of burning such a lot of coal might have been…
Yeah, that. Such a lot of coal fires would cause such an incredible pollution that it would lower the quality of living in very large regions, or even worldwide. Some theoretical ecologists I´ve read even suggest that it would mess up the weather across the planet big time. I don`t think people would have tolerated such a nasty, dirty business at all.
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And here is the promised map, I skipped forward to around 1330 AUC:
Legend:
1 - Judaea
2 - Samaria
3 - Isauria and Pamphylia
4 - Chattia (post-Heormannian imperial core)
5 - peripheral post-Heormannian kingdoms
6 - post-Warmannian imperial core around Moraha
7 - peripheral post-Warmannian kingdoms and their Vandilian conquests
A Few Authorial Endnotes
This has been my first timeline on this forum, and writing it has been a lot of fun. Receiving feedback from other forum members felt great and motivated me to aim for plausibility and in-depth explanations. Sadly, I know that I haven`t always excelled at achieving these objectives. The amount of research required was only one factor which proved problematic – the other one being my desire to take this timeline and my pet polity, the Confederacy, far into a bright future, and to have things like the Hunnic invasions, the stronger Mazdakists and the development of waterpowered textile manufacturing happen. I fear now that these attempts have caused a few plausibility problems, and even more narrative weaknesses.
And I had already come quite a long way… My first attempt at writing such a timeline was on althistory.wikia.com:
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Abrittus
Writing for the higher plausibility standards of this community here made me realize that I couldn`t just turn most of the Roman Empire of the Principate into a federal democracy like I had done on the other site. It had to be messier than that, bloodier, more diverse, more ambiguous. Writing that differently felt good. (When I began writing, I didn`t know that things would turn out differently in that respect. The idea of the militarized Roman rump-Empire (Sirmium) came to me later. That is why one of the earliest posts, where I have the tourist guide speak about events during the times of the revolution in Singidunum is wrong now. Unfortunately, I can´t edit the post now since it`s too old.)
But I should have made it messier still, even more divisive, with more severe setbacks, infights, external threats etc. The Confederacy should have come apart or experienced bloody civil war, like the Hellenic democracies of classical antiquity did, too. The Roman Empire should have experienced more frictions and power struggles, too, which would have opened the floodgates for barbarian meddling. The drawback to this would have been to slow down things even more, and honestly, I might have got lost among a self-created pandemonium of rivalling post-imperial Greco-Roman statelets. Also, writing it that way would have required a lot of creative stories about battles, commanders, politicians, intrigues, alliances etc., which aren`t exactly what I´m strong at.
Writing the timeline with less handwaving, more failures of those I sympathise with and more ambiguities might have developed some of the concepts which fascinate me in a much more meaningful way. Since I wasn`t able to achieve this, I`ll finish this with a few explicit words about what fascinated me, what compelled me to write this timeline, and what writing this timeline and receiving the feedback from all of you – for which I cannot thank you enough – has revealed to me about these topics.
(All of the topics can be summed up in the pivotality I see in the Third Century. Radical change was imminent on so many levels – and much less predictable than it looks at first sight.)
1. Christianity `s Diversity
By the middle of the 3rd century, Christianity has become a very sizable minority. Although its hierarchies already mirrored the political model of the Roman Empire whose essence and legacy it would soon become, the movement was still so incredibly more diverse than what Nicaea, Chalcedon etc. would soon make it. It appealed to the dissatisfied on many levels and in many different, often incompatible ways. Radical asceticism or good deeds in the community? Constitute your community after the principles of the Sermon on the Mount, or give the Caesar its due? Its structures were both surprisingly hierarchical for a heterogeneous marginalized minority, and surprisingly democratic for its time (still). Being a Christian was a political issue – but what politics it meant was not yet hewn in stone. I wanted to give the millennarist egalitarianism of the Agonistici and similar groups more space. In hindsight, I think I should have given more thought to the reclusive tendencies within Christianity, though – and let the theocratic beast go wilder, doing more damage to itself and throwing more monkey-wrenches into the wheels of economic development.
2. The Military Anarchy – an Idly Running Democratic Momentum? Or: the Empire`s Unused Human Resources
Civilized empires of antiquity were never defeated by migratory peoples from the periphery because the latter had superior military technology (they most often had not), greater numbers of potential warriors/soldiers (they never had), a more solid economic powerbase (LOL), or better strategists and politicians. Empires defeated themselves – they could not unearth the human resources they nominally had control over. Often, this is explained in terms of “overstretchedness”, i.e. too thin an elite controls too many people as a result of conquests.
In Rome`s case, though, Romanization was quite a success story, so classical overstretching theory does not apply, and indeed few people have attributed Rome´s crisis and downfall to secessionist movements and provincial revolts. Which raises the question… well, during the 3rd century, around 50,000,000 people identified more or less strongly as Romans. One or two centuries later, the figure has not changed much, and yet this huge civilization is generally described as being unable to muster enough soldiers to withstand the onslaught of barbarian groups which are both much less numerous and less able to produce good weaponry. That has always appeared odd to me. It was as if the people whose great-great-grandparents had actively Romanised themselves gave up on their state.
This has made me see the so-called “Military Anarchy” with different eyes. Soldiers elevating people from among themselves to the purple, and endangered towns and provinces supporting them – weren`t they among the last people who actively attempted to defend the Romanity of their quarters and who still showed civic spirit and an interest in their res publica? Yet, at the same time, they always set on the wrong horse; almost every usurper dashed to Rome and abandoned those who had elevated him. A momentum of popular engagement running idly, disappointed over and over again. From this vantage point, the so-called consolidation under Diocletian, Constantine etc. was the quiet before the storm and after the last gasps of life had left the Roman body politic.
At the same time, from this vantage point, the Crisis of the Third Century was only a few mental steps away from establishing post-imperial, but definitely Roman states which could mobilise their human resources to a much greater extent. My timeline has aimed to take these steps. Not only in the Confederacy, where the armed forces ally and ultimately subordinate themselves to local civic movements and their institutions, but also in the rump empire. Looking back, though, I should have given the Alexandrinian legions a more central role in the constituting process of the Confederacy for plausibility`s sake – and I should have made the rump-imperial beast lash out more, not just against the Confederacy, but also against the Germanic Barbarians across the Danube, with more conquests and less isolation. But also with more instability, which would have opened the floodgates for Germanic meddling.
3. What the Latifundia Could Have Become, Too
Another aspect which fascinates me is the socio-economic structure of the latifundia / villae rusticate in the imperial period. So ambivalent. They surely were the roots of OTL´s reversal to economic manorialism with demonetarization, subsistence, “inner secession” from the empire and of the introduction of feudalist military and political structures. That´s why I had the Gallo-Roman part of the former Empire go down this road, even without barbarians taking over everywhere.
But they were not just a symptom or cause of crisis. They also brought relatively capital-intensive, complex production principally aimed for the market to a countryside previously caught in the stagnant world of subsistence. In the 3rd century, they had to work almost without slaves – which would have made them attractive places for those who had to offer their labour – had it not been for the landowners` political power which helped tweak the whole legal system in their favour (a process completed under Diocletian after it had overcome peasant revolts in many places, and which caused yet more of them: the bagaudae are not a figment of my imagination…)
Could the mechanizing (oil-presses! saw-mills!), export-oriented and labour-divisive rural economic complexes not have turned into persistently profit-oriented, more broadly owned units – something like cooperatives? Not replacing cheap slave labour with cheap serf labour might have provided a greater incentive for mechanization, while keeping the large market-oriented structures looks like the only context in which it could have a chance. That would have required successful peasant revolts, which in turn were only thinkable if other (e.g. religious) rebellions occurred, too, and gave the whole thing an ideological basis, and parts of the military supported it, too.
The socioeconomic system with the “synergeia” are the bedrock of the Confederacy. I admit that bringing them about required a lot of handwaving. What I feel bad about, though, is not taking them seriously enough. If such structures were really implemented, some would indeed seal themselves off from the market, diversify and go into communal susbsistence mode – turn into villages of egalitarian sects, either kept in that state by a dogmatic religion or public cult, or threatened by a reversion into neo-tribalism. Others would go bankrupt, and yet others would become super-powerful, absorbing land and resources from competitors and turning into micro-states. Having a comitium civitatis – and even a majority of them Confederacy-wide! – protect and freeze their status and land boundaries as if they had the hindsight of a late 19th-century Cooperativist thinkers was perhaps a bit too much wishful thinking on my part.
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Anyway – I have ranted enough. Has anyone of you any constructively critical feedback which might help me write better timelines in the future? What did you like, what did you miss / not like? Where would you have wanted this timeline to move? … As always, I am grateful for every comment.