Optimus Princeps - A Trajan TL

Alcsentre Calanice · May 30, 2015

TC9078 said:
To be fair, they could always come to a compromise with the army, like making the Emperor head of the army but having it be officially controlled by the Senate. And limiting the powers of the Emperor is honestly a GOOD thing, as in OTL, in the words of EU4: "the autocratic, semi-divine nature of the emperor is so powerful it encourages civil wars." So with limiting the Emperor's powers, it will make the Roman Empire more stable, and if the Emperor and the Senate find a decent compromise in authority in the Empire, then you're golden.

Emperor - head of the army. This is very dangerous. The emperor could, everytime the senate opposes him, send his soldiers to Rome to restore the old order.

Alcsentre Calanice · May 31, 2015

Any ideas for a name of the new order? Liberal principate is a bit to long to write/read each time and very repetitive. And "new republic" is Star Wars-esque.

Upton_Sinclair · Jun 1, 2015

G.Washington_Fuckyeah said:
Any ideas for a name of the new order? Liberal principate is a bit to long to write/read each time and very repetitive. And "new republic" is Star Wars-esque.

Second Republic?

Zek Sora · Jun 1, 2015

Upton_Sinclair said:
Second Republic?

Too French

Alcsentre Calanice · Jun 2, 2015

Zek Sora said:
Too French

And the second French republic wasn't that glorious.

I'll stick to "Liberal Principate", like the "Liberal Empire" under Napoleon III.

Zek Sora · Jun 2, 2015

G.Washington_Fuckyeah said:
And the second French republic wasn't that glorious.

I'll stick to "Liberal Principate", like the "Liberal Empire" under Napoleon III.

Liberal Principate sounds good.

better than "New Roman Republic" anyway

Grouchio · Jun 2, 2015

I wonder if a monolatrist Hellenistic religion (may it be the Imperial Cult, Jove, Sol Invictus, Isis or Mithras) will take center stages as popular religions this time around. A divergence from Christian ascendence I'd say.

Alcsentre Calanice · Jun 2, 2015

Grouchio said:
I wonder if a monolatrist Hellenistic religion (may it be the Imperial Cult, Jove, Sol Invictus, Isis or Mithras) will take center stages as popular religions this time around. A divergence from Christian ascendence I'd say.

I'm currently working on a general overview of the world in 300 AD. So Jesus is already integrated in the pagan pantheon, but influence of the eastern religions may als be very strong. Sol Invictus is a good candidate, as he was Constantine's god before he turned Christian.

But in the underclass, Buddhism may be popular too (you have also these idea of an ultime salvation independent from your wealth).

Komnenos002 · Jun 2, 2015

New Principate perhaps?

Alcsentre Calanice · Jun 2, 2015

Komnenos002 said:
New Principate perhaps?

Or something Greek?

Komnenos002 · Jun 2, 2015

G.Washington_Fuckyeah said:
Or something Greek?

I would assume no, since my understanding is that the ruling classes, even in the Hellenic regions of Rome, still spoke Latin until Heraclius.

MorningDew · Jun 23, 2015

G washington, are you planning for roman civilization to pull a china?

thanks and good bacon,
Swagmiester

Alcsentre Calanice · Jun 23, 2015

swag of the swag said:
G washington, are you planning for roman civilization to pull a china?

thanks and good bacon,
Swagmiester

Pull a China? But who would then play Europe and Japan

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MorningDew · Jun 24, 2015

One does not simply need a Europe and japan

A permanent state of semi cold war between the "Latin" west and "Greek" east would be awesome! Like northern china and southern china on steroids!(why has no-one done a timeline off of this

) but it would require that the east's traditions break off from the west's, which is plausible considering that Mesopotamia+Egypt+Greece and Anatolia is well more than enough to have a center of civilization rivaling roman Italy.

The questions is, Will you do so? It would ironically enough prevent either from collapsing due to the constant need for innovation and the sheer difficulty of conquering one another.

thanks and good bacon,
Swagmiester

Alcsentre Calanice · Jun 24, 2015

swag of the swag said:
One does not simply need a Europe and japan

A permanent state of semi cold war between the "Latin" west and "Greek" east would be awesome! Like northern china and southern china on steroids!(why has no-one done a timeline off of this) but it would require that the east's traditions break off from the west's, which is plausible considering that Mesopotamia+Egypt+Greece and Anatolia is well more than enough to have a center of civilization rivaling roman Italy.

The questions is, Will you do so? It would ironically enough prevent either from collapsing due to the constant need for innovation and the sheer difficulty of conquering one another.

thanks and good bacon,
Swagmiester

I'm not even sure if I will finish this TL.

Nagisaki · Jun 24, 2015

G.Washington_Fuckyeah said:
I'm not even sure if I will finish this TL.

I feel the same way about my TL. I nearly finished it, but then restarted it to make it look better. Now I struggle to even get a few out as I am too focused on games I bought from the Steam Summer Sale. Sometimes I wonder if I truly want to write timelines. Honestly, probably not, but it is too much fun to write them if I'm in a good mode, screw what people think of it, if I only get one viewer for my TLs then fine, as long as someone appreciates it I will continue it as I know people like it. Not sure if I share any of your reasons for not knowing if this TL will finish, but I wish you luck, and hope you make the right choice, whichever it may be.