Just read this TL again.
It's awesome.
...And let's face it, Rajah John's turning down Leopold II is probably a good thing (not that it helps his reputation in the end).
And if I were John Brooke, I'd have given Leopold a shorter answer, but such is diplomacy.
I wonder if the international recognition won't be more important in the medium term, though - sure, Sarawak has lost some marginal territory, but now it can develop without worrying that the Netherlands or some other power will try to snap it up.
International recognition will be helpful in the long term also, to avoid absorption from a future neighbor, after TTL independence of colonies.
All I can say is Brooke is making a lot of mistakes vs a minor power very far from their logistics base. Unless it was butterflied away, The Brooke's also didn't take advantage of what is happening Banjarmasin war which is happening at the same time. From what I read, the interpretation of the Brooke's in ttl are weak and incompetent monarchs.
The American Civil War, IMO, is probably going like OTL.
He'll do much to promote transportation and industrialization, but what he will be remembered for the most will be his international policy. The 1860's were full of events that could make a statesman widely known, and Cavour might just know which events to pick.
First...you know that now in Europe there is a statesman on level equal at Bismark in term of cunning and capacity? Interesting time ahead
For the event well:
- At the first place there will be gaining Venezia or Rome. But with Rome under French 'protection' he will concentrate on Venetia like Italy various goverment had done in OTL. What we can expect is a much more planned war (the Austro-Prussian war, know in Italy as the Third war of independence), instead of the improvvisated endevour of OTL...basically suck being Austria.
- Lincoln offered at Garibaldi a command in the Unioninst Army with the grade of General. Cavour will try to make him accept that offer (probably using some third party) as this mean keeping the hero of two world away (the two
- If he survives till 1870 there is the accession to the Throne of Spain by Amedeo son of VIctor Emanuele II. OTL the King was actively involved in the affair basically keeping a tight control of it and Amedeo reign was brief and not very remarcable as he, among other things, was not really into the Spanish culture or even language.
In the same year there is a first attempt for a commerical colony in Papua-Guinea but is immediately blocked by the British and the Dutch.
Well, Count Cavour was definitely not silent on Venice being a part of Italy and with him around, the Third War of Independence might go a lot better than OTL. However, there is also the chance that the long hours spent in office would drain him before the conflict, even though he has a better doctor ITTL. Besides that, with him around Austria might pay more attention to the defense of Venetia-Lombardy before 1866, just because of him being a heavyweight on the international scene.
On Garibaldi, I know that he refused to fighting the Civil War IOTL because of Abe Lincoln not declaring the abolition of slavery. I don't know if that would change with Cavour around, though I can see the statesman trying to get him away from Italy as much as possible. Also, your sentence ended really abruptly.
I didn't know about that at all. I dunno if a still-living Cavour would try and support such a venture, considering Amadeo was all 'meh' in ruling Spain in the first place. Then again, the count would probably be too old at this point to stop Victor Emmanuel from going on his plans.
Also, are there any sources for Italian colonial attempts in Papua other than the De Rays Expedition? I keep hearing that there was an attempt around 1870 but I can't seem to find any trace of it.
In foreign policy the principal objective of Cavour will be kept Italy in the Great powers diplomatic loop so i doubt that will be isolated as OTL and start a colonial empire (unlike Bismark he greatly supported various endevour).
The other big problem is the Roman question, as Rome is seen as the natural capital of Italy and even Nappy III want the problem resolved as this block any possible attempt of allaince with Italy, but Cavour or not Cavour, the Pope was totally against any possible agreement so unless something happen to Pope Pio IX i doubt much will change
Damn, i just want to say that the two man really don't like each others, so Cavour will be happy to see Garibaldi in another continent; maybe the Count hope to foster better relations with the USA and use that to convince the General.
Oppose probably not, but we can see a better preparation (Cavour was a chessmaster and all about preparation) of Amedeo...maybe even a different and more capable candidate
the 70 expedition was a minor event so is not really widely know or studied, there are some italian sources as Storia economica coloniale by Vittorio Franchini; basically the explorer Emilio Cerruti returned to Florence (at the time capital of Italy) with treaty signed by the sultan of the island of Aru, Kai and Balscicu where they accepted italian sovereignity and the man also take possession of some land in the north of Papua.
Ah yes, that was one of the things I noticed about Cavour. If things are done right, I want to be able to swing this to an earlier Italian colonial empire. One of my overall goals of this TL is to make a more diverse SE Asia, and the statesman could be the key.
Hmm… I’m still new to the world of papal politics, and I want to keep the butterflies a bit restrained for now (also, I have no clue on how to mess with Pope Pius at this point). If the Franco-Prussian War still happens as OTL (and considering Prussia and France back then, it probably will), we could see another ‘Prisoner of the Vatican’, though things could change when the next century comes around.
Hmm… possible, though that still doesn’t solve the slavery issue. What could be the chance of Garibaldi coming to the US after the Emancipation Proclamation is signed? That could give Cavour an opening to get the guy out of Italy for a few years.
*looks at Victor’s family and children*
Err…maybe I don’t wanna mess with that for the moment.
Huh, if the proposal was sent to Florence rather than Rome, than that means this happened during the 1860’s when the Risorgimento was incomplete. I also recall there being a proposal for Aceh to be made a protectorate too. If Italy wins the Third War of Independence decisively (especially with her navy), this could give her a chance to go abroad, especially if Assab is taken in 1868. The British and Dutch might spin in their chairs though, if Italy decides to go for the Far East.
And speaking of fleet, what would be the outcome of a successful battle of Lissa? I know the battle could have really turned in the Italians’ favor and was bungled because of incompetence and rivalry among the captains rolleyes. If Italy won the battle, would the fleet sail straight to Venice or bombard some Dalmatian ports/military places first?
Also, where's Balscicu? I know Aru and Kai, but never heard of that one
Holy Mackerel, the Rangers are pretty badass. And while it seems Sarawak ain't exactly the wealthiest place 'round those parts, at least they seem to be well-administered and "fairly" well off, all things considered. The last bit did help breaking down the mentality of your average Sarawakian, what with the quality of life going up instead of depending on bribes and untrustworthy officials. Safe rule does have its merits, after all!
Well, once you rule a country that have lot of locals that know how to seriously fight, you kinda need a badass force to somewhat keep the peace.
As for the "fairly" well-off part, it needs to be said that the Brooke family at this point basically replaced the Bruneian sultan as ruler of the land and fully knitted together the old ruling system with that of their own, keeping together a lot of the people who know how to administer the land from rebelling. If it hadn't for this, Sarawak would have been a lot harder to rule.
And IMO, the last part had to be included because at this point, there really needs to be an explanation for why do the Malays allow the Brookes to rule. There will be dissenters - there will always be dissenters - but by and large, the increased trade and relative safety lended the family substantial support among the locals.
True about needing hardasses to keep other hardasses in line, if only they can develop a reputation like OTL's Ghurkas and Sikhs...oh wait .
Typically as long as the people's day to day activities can be normalized and stability brought to the local level, you can get away with some morally gray government setups (within reason, of course). That being said, the fact that the Brookes are pretty much just a drop-in for the previous leadership in the region seems to have not ruffled TOO many feathers. And of course being outsiders means the possible view that they're (relatively) unbiased and objective in their decisions. Here's to their reign not suffering too many setbacks or crap-ups, so as to keep being those good stewards of the land and the people happy.
I was thinking about the same.I wonder also if the Council Negri will become a House of Lords to an eventual elected House of Commons, or if the council itself will transform over time into an elected house.
So after defeating the Ibans, Brooke made elite soldiers of them - a very British thing to do.
I wonder also if the Council Negri will become a House of Lords to an eventual elected House of Commons, or if the council itself will transform over time into an elected house.
Eid Mubarak to you and yours.
I was thinking about the same.