New Deal Coalition Retained Pt II: World on Fire

[Redcoat]

I was going to make a response but I feel like I'd get shot down. Best to just let the critics get over this

 

[Bookmark1995]

Also viruses do not work this way.

This could only happen if every Brazilian person had never, ever been sick.

 

[Asami]

Yes, and your circlejerk of a timeline Reds is so realistic, am I right?

Yikes buddy, it's just criticism. If you can't handle it, then maybe you shouldn't be on a public forum? It's quite silly to result to childish shit-slinging in response to criticisms about a timeline that are very eloquently explained. To give a retort that amounts to "no u" reflects poorly on yourself, and not Aelita.

 

[King_Arthur]

Yikes buddy, it's just criticism. If you can't handle it, then maybe you shouldn't be on a public forum? It's quite silly to result to childish shit-slinging in response.

She's just rehashing what we've all heard before

 

[LHB]

There's a lot that's already been said about this TL. The whitewashing of numerous neo-fascist figures, the completely implausible rise of the Freyist ideology which is itself based on far-right dogwhistle about Germans having a culture of guilt and being ashamed of being German (they're not), and the ridiculous +20 percent vote swing because of events that don't directly affect German voters leading to the destruction of the Republic, or the WarPac managing to completely occupy Germany (the win condition for any conventional WWIII), or the German Empire managing to field millions of troops after losing their country, or the defection of the NVA, the most loyal of the Warsaw Pact armies and ones that the US military regarded as 1:1 equal to their own formations in the Cold War, or finally how NATO troops on Warsaw Pact and Soviet soil somehow not leading to at the very least the tactical use of nuclear weapons. Whatever, we can make concessions to plausibility to tell a story, and while this is not my cup of tea, to each their own.

But this whole update, and this passage in particular here, reeks of spiteful vindictiveness. You've conjured up a Biblical plague to punish the unbelievers, the Godless and those communist apostates. And a public health crisis that seems to exist solely to provide the catharsis of right-wing ethnostate troops murdering refugees at the border. It goes beyond implausible, it's torture porn.

All of this plus how the fuck are the mods so asleep at the wheel that they're just ignoring clear and obvious fascist, genocide and all kinds of awfulness apologia that would get shut down in under ten seconds in a Chat thread or any other TL that didn't dress up their Third Positionist (aka family friendly fascism) bullshit in barely concealing garments?

The fact that this trainwreck wasn't stopped sooner by mods who allegedly have rules against most of what this TL does says a lot about how much those rules actually matter and who they are applied to on this forum.

Yes, and your circlejerk of a timeline Reds is so realistic, am I right?

Reds! isn't an endless fapfest for one specific ideology, people make mistakes and awful things happen that are committed by people on the protagonist side of things. It also actually engages with these concepts called society and humanity. This is helicopter ride fantasia with obvious Strasserite/Third Position/Alain de Benoist barely concealed fascism written all over it.

This garbage is fascist apologia with mass death fantasies and garbage writing that wishes it could wipe the shit off of Aelita, Mr. E, and Red Star Rising's boots for free.

 

[Asami]

He's just rehashing what we've all heard before

Aelita is a she.

 

[King_Arthur]

All of this plus how the fuck are the mods so asleep at the wheel

You're kidding right? Right?

that they're just ignoring clear and obvious fascist, genocide and all kinds of awfulness apologi

Calling someone a fascist is not an accusation to make lightly.

Just stick to Reds! if you can't handle a right-wing-bias TL.

 

[King_Arthur]

Aelita is a she.

Oh woops I'll fix that. Sorry @Aelita

 

[Bulldoggus]

Why do I even look at this thread when @The Congressman isn’t posting?

 

[LHB]

You're kidding right? Right?



Calling someone a fascist is not an accusation to make lightly.

Just stick to Reds! if you can't handle a right-wing-bias TL.

There's right-wing bias and then there's whitewashing neo-Nazis like George Lincoln Rockwell by making them best friends with MLK, far right German hardcore nationalists like Gerhard Frey who never got into the Bundestag due to his party having zero appeal or the neo-Imperial Japan founded by a fascist who attempted a coup against the Diet OTL. That's fascist apologia as is this whole "beyond left and right" nonsense that Freyism is pulling which is straight out of classic Third Positionist, Fascist tactics and playbooks since the 1970s.

But if that's "right wing bias" to you then maybe you should ask yourself when you started fapping off to Adolf Hitler and Mussolini.

 

[Kammada]

There's a lot that's already been said about this TL. The whitewashing of numerous neo-fascist figures, the completely implausible rise of the Freyist ideology which is itself based on far-right dogwhistle about Germans having a culture of guilt and being ashamed of being German (they're not), and the ridiculous +20 percent vote swing because of events that don't directly affect German voters leading to the destruction of the Republic, or the WarPac managing to completely occupy Germany (the win condition for any conventional WWIII), or the German Empire managing to field millions of troops after losing their country, or the defection of the NVA, the most loyal of the Warsaw Pact armies and ones that the US military regarded as 1:1 equal to their own formations in the Cold War, or finally how NATO troops on Warsaw Pact and Soviet soil somehow not leading to at the very least the tactical use of nuclear weapons. Whatever, we can make concessions to plausibility to tell a story, and while this is not my cup of tea, to each their own.

But this whole update, and this passage in particular here, reeks of spiteful vindictiveness. You've conjured up a Biblical plague to punish the unbelievers, the Godless and those communist apostates. And a public health crisis that seems to exist solely to provide the catharsis of right-wing ethnostate troops murdering refugees at the border. It goes beyond implausible, it's torture porn.

You've put it better than I ever could. Torture porn, that's the word. I think the OP is walking on thin ice, with this TL already having got the mods' attention a couple of months ago.

 

[King_Arthur]

There's right-wing bias and then there's whitewashing neo-Nazis like George Lincoln Rockwell by making them best friends with MLK, far right German hardcore nationalists like Gerhard Frey who never got into the Bundestag due to his party having zero appeal or the neo-Imperial Japan founded by a fascist who attempted a coup against the Diet OTL. That's fascist apologia as is this whole "beyond left and right" nonsense that Freyism is pulling which is straight out of classic Third Positionist, Fascist tactics and playbooks since the 1970s.

But if that's "right wing bias" to you then maybe you should ask yourself when you started fapping off to Adolf Hitler and Mussolini.

And you are forgetting the parts where Civil Rights happens almost 10 years earlier than otl. Or perhaps you care more about bashing right-wingers? The ignore button exists for a reason.

 

[Caesar_33]

And you are forgetting the parts where Civil Rights happens almost 10 years earlier than otl. Or perhaps you care more about bashing right-wingers? The ignore button exists for a reason.

"if you don't like it don't read it" isn't a good excuse for one of the most well-known timelines on the site when it does something wrong

 

[King_Arthur]

"if you don't like it don't read it" isn't a good excuse for one of the most well-known timelines on the site when it does something wrong

I don't read TLs I don't like instead of spamming them. Everyone knows that NDCR has its flaws, but it focuses on the story more than plausibility.

 

[FieldMarshal]

I will say that the Marburg update seemed over the top in some regards. I can understand that the war utterly destroyed South American infrastructure, but the somewhat implausible amount of deaths and brutality within a single year I can see where the “torture porn” allegations are coming from.

I don’t quite think the author intended Marburg as “God punishing the commies”, though, seeing as he elaborates that Brazil’s
allied-installed right-wing President Geisel utterly bungles the crisis and causes the class divide to get worse.

 

[Ratmancampidori]

There's right-wing bias and then there's whitewashing neo-Nazis like George Lincoln Rockwell by making them best friends with MLK, far right German hardcore nationalists like Gerhard Frey who never got into the Bundestag due to his party having zero appeal or the neo-Imperial Japan founded by a fascist who attempted a coup against the Diet OTL. That's fascist apologia as is this whole "beyond left and right" nonsense that Freyism is pulling which is straight out of classic Third Positionist, Fascist tactics and playbooks since the 1970s.

But if that's "right wing bias" to you then maybe you should ask yourself when you started fapping off to Adolf Hitler and Mussolini.

How about we avoid resorting to childish insults, its clear you don’t enjoy the timeline.

How about instead of insulting multiple people you read something else?

 

[King_Arthur]

I don’t quite think the author intended Marburg as “God punishing the commies”, though.

I agree. I'm not even sure that @The Congressman is a Christian.

 

[Caesar_33]

I don't read TLs I don't like instead of spamming them. Everyone knows that NDCR has its flaws, but it focuses on the story more than plausibility.

when i timeline with a dedicated fanbase glorifies pinochet murdering infected argentines at the border, its not unreasonable to intervene and protest that. you can't expect your favorite timeline to be sheltered from criticism when it says something moronic.

 

[Redcoat]

The update was extremely implausible but I don't get most of the accusations of supporting fascists

 

[Caesar_33]

The update was extremely implausible but I don't get most of the accusations of supporting fascists

there's plenty of good examples. doesn't the consistent glorification of pinochet strike you as somewhat odd? this update doesn't just exist in isolation.