more french in canada

[Imperator Frank]

how could it be possible for there to be as many french in north america in 1750 as british?

 

[Moobles]

Having "as many" is a far stretch. You would essentially have to have major "pull" factors from France and whole lot of liberalization in the courts of their Kings in order to attract the same number of emmigrants that fled to the New England.

A good start would've been being a bit more accomidating to overseas Protestantism, which was banned in French North American colonies.

 

[Joseph Solis in Australia]

If French had opened their French colony in Canada to the Huguenots, probably there would be more French in Canada than in OTL.

 

[Dathi THorfinnsson]

The whole dynamic of colonization would have had to have changed.

Actually the easiest way would be for there, not to have had more French but fewer English. For instance, King Phillip's War could have succeeded in kicking the British out of New England. New York stays Dutch (without the pressure from New England, that's a lot more likely (although still kind of hard).

The southern colonies, Georgia certainly, the Carolinas perhaps, could be taken or at least rendered unviable by the Spanish coming north.

In such an ATL, Pennsylvania is never established, and all you're really left with is a greater Virginia. If smoking never catches on in Europe, that's going to leave Virginia much less viable.

All of this would leave the Haudenosenee and Tsalagi in much better position, and better able to play European powers off each other, possibly leading to their survival (and massively slowing Anglophone expansion west).

 

[fhaessig]

During his teen years, Louis XIV get a protestant mistress, briefly. The separate due to court pressure, but he still remembers her foundly.

Just before edit of Fontainebleau, she is smuggled in court and appeal to him. He grants her a private interview in which she reveals the Truth about how protestant are treated in his name.

Louis is Furious, but he has already annonced publicly he will make France protestant free and doesn't want to loose face by backing down.

So, this ATL edit of Fontainebleau gives the protestant 10 years to go to Canada ( which is the only place they are allowed to go ).


Can you spell exodus.... ( as in 2 million french protestant in Canada by 1700 )

End result : after a couple century, most of North America speaks french ( but is definitely not governed by Paris )

 

[AuroraBorealis]

During his teen years, Louis XIV get a protestant mistress, briefly. The separate due to court pressure, but he still remembers her foundly.

Just before edit of Fontainebleau, she is smuggled in court and appeal to him. He grants her a private interview in which she reveals the Truth about how protestant are treated in his name.

Louis is Furious, but he has already annonced publicly he will make France protestant free and doesn't want to loose face by backing down.

So, this ATL edit of Fontainebleau gives the protestant 10 years to go to Canada ( which is the only place they are allowed to go ).


Can you spell exodus.... ( as in 2 million french protestant in Canada by 1700 )

End result : after a couple century, most of North America speaks french ( but is definitely not governed by Paris )

well I wouldn't go that far of course..many would go... but Prussia, the Netherlands and England are still much closer and have their own appeal. Perhaps somewhat more than those that went to the English colonies so maybe add those that went to the Cape as well as its that much closer.

Does anyone know where that can be determined.

 

[fhaessig]

well I wouldn't go that far of course..many would go... but Prussia, the Netherlands and England are still much closer and have their own appeal. Perhaps somewhat more than those that went to the English colonies so maybe add those that went to the Cape as well as its that much closer.

Does anyone know where that can be determined.

The point is, OTL, they were forbidden to leave France and still hundreds of thousands did, risking life, prison or galleys if they were caught. ITTL, they have an alternative which doesn't include all those risks ( nor is as pricy ), so all that took the risks, all that tried, all that didn't dare and all that couldn't try can go.

IN addition, there is the fact that theis is authorised by the King. French protestant were loyalists which appealed to the King to protest against their treatment even after Fontainebleau.

If you add an exodus dimension, with the priests calling for leaving Egypt to go to the new promised land, I think 95%+ of the protestants of France will go. Whole village or towns at a time, with the rich financing travel for the poor and protestant shipowner and captains providing transportation. In fact, this may even draw some prtestants from other countries.

 

[Joseph Solis in Australia]

My more French in Canada ATL version is:

Louis XIV ordered all Huguenots to left from France to Canada instead of ordering forced conversion of Huguenots to Catholicism.

After that order, all Huguenots emigrated to Canada as Louis XIV had ordered to them.

The result is: 2 million Huguenots fled to Canada in just 5 years. Predominant French Protestant colony on the eve of War of 1756-1763.

By 1900, 40% percent of all Canadians are Huguenot decent.

 

[Hierophant]

So 2 million Frenchmen are going to starve to death by 1700? You are going to have to have a gradual move to the new world because there is not enough food for them when they arrive or enough to hold them over till they do. Another thing to remember is that the French protestants were composed of many middle class tradesman and merchants, not farmers.

Your best bet is for the french protestant colony in Florida to survive and flourish. You now have a much earlier date for them to start moving to the new world. Secondly, have them expand northwards into the Carolinas and Georgia, and introduce slavery for the man power to develop and maintain their food production.