Margaret, The Maid of Norway Survives - Butterflies???

Sarthak

Sarthak

What if Margaret, The Maid of Norway Survives and marries Edward II of England and have a heir, what are the possible butterflies?
 
Sarthak

Sarthak

Would it lead to a 400 year early unification of crowns? (Considering Edward I wished to have Margaret and Edward II raised together Edward II's entire character could have changed).
 

isabella

Sarthak Bikram Panta said:
Would it lead to a 400 year early unification of crowns? (Considering Edward I wished to have Margaret and Edward II raised together Edward II's entire character could have changed).
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Well sooner or later we will have an ATL union of the crowns and likely much earlier than OTL... We will have a likely different Edward II and very different ATL children...
 

VVD0D95

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Anti English or anti Scottish hostility also wouldn’t be there and it’s likelt that the two nobilities start blending together over time. Also means Berwick remains a big trading centre
 

isabella

Sarthak Bikram Panta said:
Also this does mean that the casus belli for the 100 years war does not happen right?
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Well unless Edward and Margaret had a son old enough for marrying Isabella... Still is more likely who Isabella will marry elsewhere and if things in France go as OTL Isabella’s son will inherit France at the death of his maternal uncles
 
Sarthak

Sarthak

isabella said:
Well unless Edward and Margaret had a son old enough for marrying Isabella... Still is more likely who Isabella will marry elsewhere and if things in France go as OTL Isabella’s son will inherit France at the death of his maternal uncles
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any potential candidates for husbands for isabella?
 

krieger

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isabella said:
Well unless Edward and Margaret had a son old enough for marrying Isabella... Still is more likely who Isabella will marry elsewhere and if things in France go as OTL Isabella’s son will inherit France at the death of his maternal uncles
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This is by no means certain. Valois faction dominated the court of Charles IV and they'd still orchestrate rise of Philip de Valois to throne.
 

isabella

krieger said:
This is by no means certain. Valois faction dominated the court of Charles IV and they'd still orchestrate rise of Philip de Valois to throne.
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Is not guaranteed who they would be able to have their own interpretation of the Salic Law win as inheritance for blood proximity in France was pretty strong and in OTL the Valois’ victory was owed mostly to the fact who Edward was King of England... Remember who this is the same France in which a great feud was denied to the male line grandson of the previous holder in favor of his paternal aunt because his father had died before his own father.
Plus Isabella being married in France or near to it
 
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Sarthak

Sarthak

isabella said:
Is not guaranteed who they would be able to have their own interpretation of the Salic Law win as inheritance for blood proximity in France was pretty strong and in OTL the Valois’ victory was owed mostly to the fact who Edward was King of England... Remember who this is the same France in which a great feud was denied to the male line grandson of the previous holder in favor of his paternal aunt because his father had died before his own father.
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who would probably become King of France then?
 
Sarthak

Sarthak

isabella said:
Isabella’s son as she would likely be married in France or near to it, giving to her ATL son a strong French powerbase. Also Isabella’s son is pretty likely to marry his cousin Jeanne of France for reinforcing his claim on France
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Who is Isabella going to marry then with Edward II with Margaret?
 
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