and what's that one setting that makes it's color go weird instead of being solid black?
Map Thread XXII
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Based in my experience, yes, it's probably anti-aliasing being on, maybe also the color used isn't a perfect black either. That usually leads to a weirder color shift with AA.
That's a busy world - I didn't realize there were so many countries that start with S. Probably one of the most interesting of the alphabet ISOT worlds.
Were Kosovo and Metohija included in the ISOT as part of Serbia's claimed territory, and retaken since there was no NATO to back kosovo up and its military is practically nonexistent, or was only Serbia's zone of control ISOTed?
In the latter case I'm not sure how happy people are about a virgin earth KosMet. I'm sure the government still sells it as a win but what people care about is the historic, religious, and cultural sites, and of course the Serb population, however small. Serbs that fled to central Serbia because of the war, the bad economic conditions, or anti Serb pogroms of the 2000s will be sad to see that their homes simply no longer exist.
"The land without the Serbian bones beneath it, empty fields of poppies where centuries-old monasteries should be, Kosovo Field unwatered by the blood of heroic knights who died defending Serbia's freedom." Certainly a bittersweet ending for the kinds of people that care a lot about retaking KosMet. Next year in Prizren, but there's no Prizren there.
It would be an interesting political climate if nothing else. Probably a lot of money sunk into building models of historic sites and likely FINALLY getting around to building Meštrović's Vidovdan Temple on the battlefield.
Economically though virgin earth Kosovo and Metohija is a huge blessing for Serbia since they know exactly where to find a lot of IOTL depleted mineral resources.
Speaking of Kosovo, I wonder what Luka Dončić is up to ITTL. His family are Kosovo Serbs after all and he's quite an avid "Kosovo je Srbija" enthusiast. Of course he may be brought over with Slovenia unless he's in the US at the moment of the ISOT so I wonder if he buys a second home in some kind of land rush the Serbs organize in an empty KosMet. How he deals with growing Serbia-Slovenia tensions may also be interesting.
Ofc I doubt anyone thinks of such silly details for a oneshot pixel map.
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These are good points for ISOT scenarios in general, considering how irredentism is more than just wanting a certain border on a map. It makes sense when creating these scenarios to focus on how society would function in the long term since the premise is meant to be unrealistic, but if it actually happened then these types of questions would inevitably crop up. I was asking in the WIP thread the other day about how to determine how borders would change and expand, but it’s interesting to consider how that would be motivated by nostalgia in addition to securing resources and how some people might give up because the virgin earth has nothing they once knew in their old hometown or wherever.
Returning to this scenario, how are the Native Americans doing? It looks like Tecumseh was successful, with his state eventually being absorbed into Canada, and you mentioned that Peru might be under a Neo-Inca monarchy (which I think would be a fun idea). Did the Trail of Tears still occur in the U.S.?
Returning to this scenario, I have more questions:
- Is Hanover still the royal house of the UK?
- What happened to the Spanish Bourbons?
- I assume that the ancestor of the current Danish royal family was related to the Grand Dukes of Oldenburg?
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The original post stated that the position of Emperor rotates annually.
Wouldn't the US want to use some of the reserve land for agriculture though?
“There is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains of nature -- the assurance that dawn comes after night, and spring after winter.”
The United States of America (USA or U.S.A.), commonly known as the United States or America, is a country located in North America, situated between Canada and Mexico. It is composed of nine constituent regions and 13 wilderness preserves, spread between 50 ceremonial states from which the country derives its name. The country has a natural population of 325 million, with an additional 3 million registered unpeople as citizens. America is considerably polycentric: the nation’s political capital is Washington, its most populous city is Houston, its largest financial hub is New York, and it hosts the world’s second largest vicar in Las Vegas.
The area now consisting of the United States was first settled by Paleo-Indians 12,000 years ago. English colonization of the East Coast began in Virginia in 1607. By 1776, the American colonies declared independence from the British crown over disputes on taxation and representation. After the War of Independence, the nascent U.S. began expansion in the west, admitting new states. In 1861, disputes over slavery sparked the secession of the Confederate States, which was subdued by 1865 and led to the abolition of slavery. America industrialized heavily in the late 19th century, soon becoming a great power. The U.S.’s victory in the Second World War led to a Cold War between it and the Soviet Union over ideology and global dominance. After the Soviet Union’s collapse, America emerged as the world’s dominant superpower until the onset of the American Agitation, which saw political fragmentation and near-social collapse. To resolve this, new Constitutional amendments were adopted in the Second Convention. Following the Demographic Crisis, the country embarked on a large-scale endeavor to heavily urbanize larger cities, while rewilding areas experiencing population decline, which continues to this day.
The United States is a hybrid-order presidential constitutional republic with a bicameral legislature composed of the House of Representatives (elected by popular vote) and the Senate (elected by interest groups). Day-to-day administration is carried out by the PARAGON intelligence hyperconstruct, while long-term planning and national goals are decided by popular election of a President. American political culture emphasizes environmental stewardship, civil liberties, and free association. Despite this, the country is one of the most anthropically exclusive in the world.
As a post-developed economy, the United States ranks relatively low on productivity, innovation, and industry, but highly in terms of consumer sentiment, corporate cohesion, and unemployment satisfaction. The United States maintains the world’s 9th largest nominal GDP, is the largest regional power in the Americas, and participates heavily in international affairs. The United States is a founding member of the United Nations, the Council for Responsible Human Development, the Earth-Luna Dialogue, and the Communist International.
In the modern day, the Senate acts as the assentive chamber of Congress. Its main duties, as dictated by the 34th amendment, are to confirm or reject presidential nominations for positions within the administrative and judicial branches, as well as to approve or deny legislation passed by the House of Representatives.
Crucially, the Senate cannot introduce legislation of its own. The New Framers decided that, because the Senate was inherently much less representative and democratic than the House, it should not be allowed to introduce sweeping changes to laws that could majorly impact the country. They modeled this new system somewhat after the House of Lords in the United Kingdom and the Senate in Canada, both of which mostly functioned to scrutinize legislation passed by the lower chamber.
Instead, the Senate can only approve or deny legislation already passed by the House. If the Senate approves the legislation, it goes onto the executive branch to be signed or vetoed by the President, and if signed, to be administered and implemented by PARAGON. If the Senate denies the legislation, the House can override a Senate rejection with a ⅗ majority. However, the House is more likely to amend the legislation until it meets Senate approval.
While the Senate’s powers appear limited, it enjoys a wide breadth of informal power due to the historical prestigious nature of the chamber. The Senate can also append statements of intent to House bills it rejects, which are essentially line-by-line edits of legislation the Senate wants the House to make before it can approve of the bill, and the House usually complies.
Composition
Before the 34th amendment, the Senate was composed of 102 Senators, 2 from each state. Following the Second Convention, this system was completely reformed, and the number of Senators was changed to 103, with three non-voting Senators acting in an advisory capacity. As of 2121, the Senate is composed according to the following table, where an asterisk indicates that those Senators have a lifetime or infinite term length. Otherwise, all Senators serve six-year terms.
Aside from Senators representing Regions, the federal government, or academics, the list of constituencies is often in flux and subject to change. For example, the American Civil Liberties Union, a civil liberties advocacy group, was a mainstay of the Senate constituency list starting from the implementation of the 34th amendment. However, it was delisted in 2103 due to significant financial troubles that rendered it ineffective to operate in its members’ interests.
Constituency or Interest Represented Number of Senators Atlantica Region 3 Heartland Region 3 Cascadia Region 3 Eureka Region 3 Brazos Region 3 Piedmont Region 3 Sunkiss Region 3 Caldera Region 3 Alaska and Pacifica Special Region (Extremities) 2 Vice President[1] 1 Presidential Appointees* 5 National Lottery System 9 United States Chamber of Commerce[2] 5 American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Relations 3 2MIL: BASIC Recipients’ Union 1 Parents for an American Future 3 Foundation for Arcadia 5 REWILD Accelerator Construct*[3] 1 Ecumene Project 2 Human Heritage and Traditional Values (The Guardians)[4] 3 Coalition for the Advancement of Anthropic Minorities[5] 3 Transhuman Third Way 1 Surrealists, Virtualities, and Unpeople, Consolidated 3 Brutian Voluntarists 5 Intercollegiate Consortium of Academics[6] 25 Disinterested Construct Incubator* (advisory role only) 3
Ideology vs. Interests
There are often major disagreements between the major interest groups regarding a piece of legislation, which can lead to deadlock. To solve this, the 105th amendment was passed in 2094, which stipulated that legislation could pass the Senate without a majority of Senators in concurrence, providing that:
Neo-Federalists campaigned heavily for this amendment, due to the fact that it returned more power to subnational polities and to “the people” in general, as opposed to encouraging a transactional form of government dependent on pleasing a majority of powerful interest groups. Technocrats also supported the amendment, since it returned influence to academics, which had previously seen their number of Senators dwindle from 50 when the 34th amendment was passed to 25 today.
- At least ⅔ of Senators representing Regions and the National Lottery System had voted in favor;
- At least ⅖ of academics had voted in favor;
- At least ⅔ of the Disinterested Constructs had returned a grade of MINOR MISAPPLICATION or better.
We will explore more about the differences between ideologies and interests in Chapter 5: Views on Government.
[1] Also acts as President of the Senate, the presiding officer.
[2] Per a power-sharing agreement, three of the seats are delegated to a selected publicly-owned American corporation, which rotate on an annual basis, and one seat is delegated to a representative of the Marxian-Accelerationist Combine.
[3] Currently abstentionist unless the vote is with regards to the status of the state of New Hampshire.
[4] Per a power-sharing agreement, one of the seats is delegated to a representative of the Queer Empowerment Alliance.
[5] Per a power-sharing agreement, one of the seats is delegated to a representative of the Species Uplift Project.
[6] Per a 2099 statute, at least 10 Senators from this category must have a doctorate in history, government, law, public policy, or philosophy.
Given the assumed tech level you wouldn't need dedicated agricultural land, everything could either be produced by artificial creation and the use of farmtowers in the cities.
In the decades following the Global Anti-Futurist Struggle (1968-1972), the world has seen rather warm relations between the great powers, despite ideological differences and competition for influence. In these decades, there had been a general inclination towards peace and understanding towards the partners in the dismantlement of the Russian Republic.
By 1994 AD, this is increasingly no longer the case. Though co-operation remains a focus, there exists a growing divide throughout the world. The backdrop of this is the rapidly-worsening climate, with entire ecosystems undergoing massive changes, desertification, ocean acidification, and the climate's rapidly-increasing temperature. By this point, the ocean has risen by an entire metre.
The situationist Union of American Nations and Republics, once mere rivals with the liberal capitalist United Arab Empire, has grown more zealous in their desire to hasten the end of the spectacle and capitalism. As climate disasters grow in intensity, the memory of the 1986 Arab Veto of the Global Climate Resolution stings in the minds of those affected. Arabia and China, too, have grown more hostile, with East African issues leading to the Triple Alliance of Arabia, Russia, and Japan growing more formal. The Kingdom of Portugal-In-Exile's collapse, and the ensuing proxy war over the remains, are very likely only the beginning.
(made in collaboration with @Mooze17 and @kaazed !)
Sure, though the government could also reserve a part of land as "future agricultural land" just in case.
Existing farmland within Heartland, indoor and vertical farms, and imports from other nations provide more than enough for the country to feed itself.
>Camp of the Damned
“There is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains of nature -- the assurance that dawn comes after night, and spring after winter.”
The United States of America (USA or U.S.A.), commonly known as the United States or America, is a country located in North America, situated between Canada and Mexico. It is composed of nine constituent regions and 13 wilderness preserves, spread between 50 ceremonial states from which the country derives its name. The country has a natural population of 325 million, with an additional 3 million registered unpeople as citizens. America is considerably polycentric: the nation’s political capital is Washington, its most populous city is Houston, its largest financial hub is New York, and it hosts the world’s second largest vicar in Las Vegas.
The area now consisting of the United States was first settled by Paleo-Indians 12,000 years ago. English colonization of the East Coast began in Virginia in 1607. By 1776, the American colonies declared independence from the British crown over disputes on taxation and representation. After the War of Independence, the nascent U.S. began expansion in the west, admitting new states. In 1861, disputes over slavery sparked the secession of the Confederate States, which was subdued by 1865 and led to the abolition of slavery. America industrialized heavily in the late 19th century, soon becoming a great power. The U.S.’s victory in the Second World War led to a Cold War between it and the Soviet Union over ideology and global dominance. After the Soviet Union’s collapse, America emerged as the world’s dominant superpower until the onset of the American Agitation, which saw political fragmentation and near-social collapse. To resolve this, new Constitutional amendments were adopted in the Second Convention. Following the Demographic Crisis, the country embarked on a large-scale endeavor to heavily urbanize larger cities, while rewilding areas experiencing population decline, which continues to this day.
The United States is a hybrid-order presidential constitutional republic with a bicameral legislature composed of the House of Representatives (elected by popular vote) and the Senate (elected by interest groups). Day-to-day administration is carried out by the PARAGON intelligence hyperconstruct, while long-term planning and national goals are decided by popular election of a President. American political culture emphasizes environmental stewardship, civil liberties, and free association. Despite this, the country is one of the most anthropically exclusive in the world.
As a post-developed economy, the United States ranks relatively low on productivity, innovation, and industry, but highly in terms of consumer sentiment, corporate cohesion, and unemployment satisfaction. The United States maintains the world’s 9th largest nominal GDP, is the largest regional power in the Americas, and participates heavily in international affairs. The United States is a founding member of the United Nations, the Council for Responsible Human Development, the Earth-Luna Dialogue, and the Communist International.
In the modern day, the Senate acts as the assentive chamber of Congress. Its main duties, as dictated by the 34th amendment, are to confirm or reject presidential nominations for positions within the administrative and judicial branches, as well as to approve or deny legislation passed by the House of Representatives.
Crucially, the Senate cannot introduce legislation of its own. The New Framers decided that, because the Senate was inherently much less representative and democratic than the House, it should not be allowed to introduce sweeping changes to laws that could majorly impact the country. They modeled this new system somewhat after the House of Lords in the United Kingdom and the Senate in Canada, both of which mostly functioned to scrutinize legislation passed by the lower chamber.
Instead, the Senate can only approve or deny legislation already passed by the House. If the Senate approves the legislation, it goes onto the executive branch to be signed or vetoed by the President, and if signed, to be administered and implemented by PARAGON. If the Senate denies the legislation, the House can override a Senate rejection with a ⅗ majority. However, the House is more likely to amend the legislation until it meets Senate approval.
While the Senate’s powers appear limited, it enjoys a wide breadth of informal power due to the historical prestigious nature of the chamber. The Senate can also append statements of intent to House bills it rejects, which are essentially line-by-line edits of legislation the Senate wants the House to make before it can approve of the bill, and the House usually complies.
Composition
Before the 34th amendment, the Senate was composed of 102 Senators, 2 from each state. Following the Second Convention, this system was completely reformed, and the number of Senators was changed to 103, with three non-voting Senators acting in an advisory capacity. As of 2121, the Senate is composed according to the following table, where an asterisk indicates that those Senators have a lifetime or infinite term length. Otherwise, all Senators serve six-year terms.
Aside from Senators representing Regions, the federal government, or academics, the list of constituencies is often in flux and subject to change. For example, the American Civil Liberties Union, a civil liberties advocacy group, was a mainstay of the Senate constituency list starting from the implementation of the 34th amendment. However, it was delisted in 2103 due to significant financial troubles that rendered it ineffective to operate in its members’ interests.
Constituency or Interest Represented Number of Senators Atlantica Region 3 Heartland Region 3 Cascadia Region 3 Eureka Region 3 Brazos Region 3 Piedmont Region 3 Sunkiss Region 3 Caldera Region 3 Alaska and Pacifica Special Region (Extremities) 2 Vice President[1] 1 Presidential Appointees* 5 National Lottery System 9 United States Chamber of Commerce[2] 5 American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Relations 3 2MIL: BASIC Recipients’ Union 1 Parents for an American Future 3 Foundation for Arcadia 5 REWILD Accelerator Construct*[3] 1 Ecumene Project 2 Human Heritage and Traditional Values (The Guardians)[4] 3 Coalition for the Advancement of Anthropic Minorities[5] 3 Transhuman Third Way 1 Surrealists, Virtualities, and Unpeople, Consolidated 3 Brutian Voluntarists 5 Intercollegiate Consortium of Academics[6] 25 Disinterested Construct Incubator* (advisory role only) 3
Ideology vs. Interests
There are often major disagreements between the major interest groups regarding a piece of legislation, which can lead to deadlock. To solve this, the 105th amendment was passed in 2094, which stipulated that legislation could pass the Senate without a majority of Senators in concurrence, providing that:
Neo-Federalists campaigned heavily for this amendment, due to the fact that it returned more power to subnational polities and to “the people” in general, as opposed to encouraging a transactional form of government dependent on pleasing a majority of powerful interest groups. Technocrats also supported the amendment, since it returned influence to academics, which had previously seen their number of Senators dwindle from 50 when the 34th amendment was passed to 25 today.
- At least ⅔ of Senators representing Regions and the National Lottery System had voted in favor;
- At least ⅖ of academics had voted in favor;
- At least ⅔ of the Disinterested Constructs had returned a grade of MINOR MISAPPLICATION or better.
We will explore more about the differences between ideologies and interests in Chapter 5: Views on Government.
[1] Also acts as President of the Senate, the presiding officer.
[2] Per a power-sharing agreement, three of the seats are delegated to a selected publicly-owned American corporation, which rotate on an annual basis, and one seat is delegated to a representative of the Marxian-Accelerationist Combine.
[3] Currently abstentionist unless the vote is with regards to the status of the state of New Hampshire.
[4] Per a power-sharing agreement, one of the seats is delegated to a representative of the Queer Empowerment Alliance.
[5] Per a power-sharing agreement, one of the seats is delegated to a representative of the Species Uplift Project.
[6] Per a 2099 statute, at least 10 Senators from this category must have a doctorate in history, government, law, public policy, or philosophy.
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I'm certainly hoping that vertical farming is efficiently developed and advanced enough to be a great asset in the world of tomorrow c:
As do I; it sucked that the several of the companies that were meant to develop them basically screwed up and went bankrupt/shut down, but I have hope.
But what about selling it across the world? There’s probably a huge demand for it in some places.
A belated reply, but I'll have to state that I've fully settled on a republican Mexico. Furthermore, with a 1780s-ish POD Araucania and Patagonia's kinda too far from whatever the exact divergence was, even with me already being relatively soft regarding butterflies. Patagonia's therefore is, per my current canon, Chilean (and Argentina's current big irredentist sore spot).
Yeah, going with either a different Manchu clan deposing the Aisin-Gioros or yet another round of Mongolian Emperors.
A Hui or Uighur dynasty is a candidate yeah, though a little part of me is tickled by the thought of a Tibetan dynasty (somehow).
Settled on a Zhuang emperor for the Nanjing dynasty.
Somewhat better than OTL, with mildly larger reservations.
Yep, the circumstances of its annexation (spoiler: it was not very voluntary nor particularly peaceful) being a major national shame for the Canucks.
Yeah, that's very much now a canon thing. Still unsure if that was brought about by a much more successful/luckier Tupac Amaru II, his son (OTL murdered by the Spanish), or a later native revolutionary.
Indian Removal as we know it didn't occur, but the decades that would follow proved to still be a pretty miserable affair for the Five Tribes. Bunch of broken treaties, a very sad number of massacres, and an endless encroachment upon their lands by the Americans. If there's any silver lining, it's that they have sizeable reservations in what little of their ancestral territory they managed to hold onto.
Yup, George III's sons managing to actually pop out a legitimate male heir or two in between them. Funny enough, I've had it in mind that the Canadian Hanovers are descended from Prince Edward (i.e. - what would have been the OTL British Royal Family rules in Canada).
That... I didn't really give much thought to be honest. Toss up between exile to Sicily or eventually getting intermarried to the Spanish branch of the Bonapartes.
Given that the Danish monarchy is still held by the House of Oldenburg ITTL? Very much so.
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